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I was a solid Nikonian ever since the D200 days having moved into a D300, D700 and D7100. I completely abandoned DSLR altogether for several years jumping around in the Olympus, Fuji and then Sony camp. I leaped into the R5 camp last year along with most of their top RF glass.

The Z9 gave me pause and I followed its progress till finally decided to consider having TWO wives IF the Z9 ends up being what I have a feeling it IS, I'll be adding a number of S glass to finish it out and may well sell off some of the RF glass to keep the R5 to a "travel camera" status for the most part since after all it is pretty portable. I noted B&H changed my order status from Backordered to "Coming Soon" so I'm thinking more than ever that indeed the 15th IS the date they get the goods.
Dec 13, 2021 at 05:01 PM
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Goooooood. Hope you get it among the first lot of deliveries!!!

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I was a solid Nikonian ever since the D200 days having moved into a D300, D700 and D7100. I completely abandoned DSLR altogether for several years jumping around in the Olympus, Fuji and then Sony camp. I leaped into the R5 camp last year along with most of their top RF glass.

The Z9 gave me pause and I followed its progress till finally decided to consider having TWO wives IF the Z9 ends up being what I have a feeling it IS, I'll be adding a number of S glass to finish it out and may well sell off
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Dec 13, 2021 at 05:02 PM
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p.14 #3Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
Miracles do happen I suppose
Dec 13, 2021 at 05:04 PM
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p.14 #4Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
Jared Polin gets the first publically unveiled full production Z9?? The world really is upside down right now 🤣
Dec 13, 2021 at 05:19 PM
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p.14 #5Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
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Jerod Polin gets the first publically unveiled full production Z9?? The world really is upside down right now 🤣


I don't think that is the first production Z9 out there...

Dec 13, 2021 at 05:20 PM
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p.14 #6Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
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Why are you involved in this thread? You don’t want a Z9. Nobody cares.



...beautiful!
seems it is sissies that worry about the weight of the z9 so then they go buy the a1 then come back to the nikon forum to try and encourage everyone else to buy the little play thing
Dec 13, 2021 at 05:50 PM
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bs kite wrote:
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bs kite wrote"Nikon, the company that had been in third place behind Sony and Canon in the full-frame mirrorless market (and it wasn’t a close third place), has not only caught back up but has outright passed them technologically by a considerable margin. “

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/28/nikon-and-the-z9-are-the-photo-industrys-comeback-story-of-the-decade/
Interesting article. 100% based on the spec sheet, 0% based on hands on use. Seems like the worst type of click-bait out there. Even after reading the article I can't figure out what specs they are basing the "outright passed them by a considerable margin" on? Reads like 120FPS 11MP jpegs and video codecs?
And there are plenty out there from Sony that have no citations.

What did you think about my above comment? Did you like it?

"With the arrival of the Z9, the top position in the professional mirrorless world is now shared with Nikon.

This will become more apparent, as more pros become familar with the Z9.

Each brand has certain features that are better than the other.

And the competition benefits all photographers. "

Back to my book. Later.





Your comment is spot on. To be fully confirmed with proper back to back testing which to date I only see Fro having done and even then somewhat limited.

I'm not sure what "there are plenty out there from Sony with no citations" has to do with anything. Sites like PetaPixel are full of garbage articles about all brands.

Dec 13, 2021 at 05:53 PM
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What is pathetic is being over sensitive to discussions based on truth.


naw....what IS pathetic is you have been told by many people in the nikon forum they were tired of your crap but yet you just keep hammering it out....must be a real let down for you that you can not come to the forum to constantly let nikon shooters know about the nikon financial woes
Dec 13, 2021 at 05:56 PM
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Dec 13, 2021 at 06:00 PM
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How about thinking before posting. Read the room. Or, just continue to be a troll. I am betting you will choose the latter, based on past experience. I wish the hide button also hid posts that quote you. That would solve my problem. By the way, I have heard from several others by PM thanking me for calling you out. As I said, it is not just me.


have to watch out, these sony shooters are a bunch of rats, next thing they'll have you banned

Dec 13, 2021 at 06:01 PM
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dcisive wrote:
I was a solid Nikonian ever since the D200 days having moved into a D300, D700 and D7100. I completely abandoned DSLR altogether for several years jumping around in the Olympus, Fuji and then Sony camp. I leaped into the R5 camp last year along with most of their top RF glass.

The Z9 gave me pause and I followed its progress till finally decided to consider having TWO wives IF the Z9 ends up being what I have a feeling it IS, I'll be adding a number of S glass to finish it out and may well sell off
...Show more →

Do you mean that on your account page with B&H your Z9 order shows as “coming soon” rather than “back -ordered”. If so that might be good news for you - still says “back-ordered” .
Dec 13, 2021 at 06:16 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
bs kite wrote
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote"Nikon, the company that had been in third place behind Sony and Canon in the full-frame mirrorless market (and it wasn’t a close third place), has not only caught back up but has outright passed them technologically by a considerable margin. “

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/28/nikon-and-the-z9-are-the-photo-industrys-comeback-story-of-the-decade/
Interesting article. 100% based on the spec sheet, 0% based on hands on use. Seems like the worst type of click-bait out there. Even after reading the article I can't figure out what specs they are basing the "outright passed them by a considerable margin" on? Reads like 120FPS 11MP jpegs and video codecs?
And there are plenty out there from Sony that have no citations.

What did you think about my above comment? Did you like it?

"With the arrival of the Z9, the top position in the professional mirrorless world is now shared with Nikon.

This will become more apparent, as more pros become familar with the Z9.

Each brand has certain features that are better than the other.

And the competition benefits all photographers. "

Back to my book. Later.
Your comment is spot on. To be fully confirmed with proper back to back testing which to date I only see Fro having done and even then somewhat limited.

I'm not sure what "there are plenty out there from Sony with no citations" has to do with anything. Sites like PetaPixel are full of garbage articles about all brands.



Thanks.

Why do you say only Fro? Do you think that Fro is the only reviewer who does proper reviews? I am one who respects his *in-depth* testing too. I also believe that several in the repository are good reviews. Do not have time to dig through them now. Must get back to my work.

I considered deleting the PetPixel review but folks had already commented on it. I decided I did not like the "outright passed them by considerable margin." phrase. It is not true. Each brand has features better than the other and it benefits us, the photographers

Something just came across NR about 800 development.

Later







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Dec 13, 2021 at 06:37 PM
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pwschladen wrote:
dcisive wroteI was a solid Nikonian ever since the D200 days having moved into a D300, D700 and D7100. I completely abandoned DSLR altogether for several years jumping around in the Olympus, Fuji and then Sony camp. I leaped into the R5 camp last year along with most of their top RF glass.

The Z9 gave me pause and I followed its progress till finally decided to consider having TWO wives IF the Z9 ends up being what I have a feeling it IS, I'll be adding a number of S glass to finish it out and may well sell off some of the RF glass to keep the R5 to a "travel camera" status for the most part since after all it is pretty portable. I noted B&H changed my order status from Backordered to "Coming Soon" so I'm thinking more than ever that indeed the 15th IS the date they get the goods.
Do you mean that on your account page with B&H your Z9 order shows as “coming soon” rather than “back -ordered”. If so that might be good news for you - still says “back-ordered” .


When I went to my email they sent me confirming the order from Nov 4th, I clicked on the item and it came up with a different status. I can't go into my account on their web site as it ONLY gives you what was ordered through the web. I pre ordered it directly on the phone with them.
Dec 13, 2021 at 06:38 PM
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bs kite wrote:
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote"Nikon, the company that had been in third place behind Sony and Canon in the full-frame mirrorless market (and it wasn’t a close third place), has not only caught back up but has outright passed them technologically by a considerable margin. “

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/28/nikon-and-the-z9-are-the-photo-industrys-comeback-story-of-the-decade/
Interesting article. 100% based on the spec sheet, 0% based on hands on use. Seems like the worst type of click-bait out there. Even after reading the article I can't figure out what specs they are basing the "outright passed them by a considerable margin" on? Reads like 120FPS 11MP jpegs and video codecs?
And there are plenty out there from Sony that have no citations.

What did you think about my above comment? Did you like it?

"With the arrival of the Z9, the top position in the professional mirrorless world is now shared with Nikon.

This will become more apparent, as more pros become familar with the Z9.

Each brand has certain features that are better than the other.

And the competition benefits all photographers. "

Back to my book. Later.
Your comment is spot on. To be fully confirmed with proper back to back testing which to date I only see Fro having done and even then somewhat limited.

I'm not sure what "there are plenty out there from Sony with no citations" has to do with anything. Sites like PetaPixel are full of garbage articles about all brands.
Thanks.

Why do you say only Fro? Do you think that Fro is the only reviewer who does proper reviews? I am one who respects his *in-depth* testing too. I also believe that several in the repository are good reviews. Do not have time to dig through them now. Must get back to my work.

I considered deleting the PetPixel review but folks had already commented on it. I decided I did not like the "outright passed them by considerable margin." phrase. It is not true. Each brand has features better than the other and it benefits us, the
...Show more →

Certainly Fro is not the only one that does proper reviews. He is just the only one I've seen so far that has done some comparisons to the competition. There will be lots of good reviews out there comparing the Z9 to past Nikon cameras but only a handful of ones that will compare to the competition (Fro, DPR, Steve Perry, Steve Mattheis and Mark Smith). Many Nikon shooters will only really care about how it stacks up to their other Nikon cameras but for me all I care about is how it stacks up against the A1, R5 and R3. Which I'll test myself anyways but still....

Yes 800mm Z lens will have development announcement alongside that 28-75 as per Nokishita and NRs. Good times!!
Dec 13, 2021 at 06:47 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
bs kite wrote
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote"Nikon, the company that had been in third place behind Sony and Canon in the full-frame mirrorless market (and it wasn’t a close third place), has not only caught back up but has outright passed them technologically by a considerable margin. “

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/28/nikon-and-the-z9-are-the-photo-industrys-comeback-story-of-the-decade/
Interesting article. 100% based on the spec sheet, 0% based on hands on use. Seems like the worst type of click-bait out there. Even after reading the article I can't figure out what specs they are basing the "outright passed them by a considerable margin" on? Reads like 120FPS 11MP jpegs and video codecs?
And there are plenty out there from Sony that have no citations.

What did you think about my above comment? Did you like it?

"With the arrival of the Z9, the top position in the professional mirrorless world is now shared with Nikon.

This will become more apparent, as more pros become familar with the Z9.

Each brand has certain features that are better than the other.

And the competition benefits all photographers. "

Back to my book. Later.
Your comment is spot on. To be fully confirmed with proper back to back testing which to date I only see Fro having done and even then somewhat limited.

I'm not sure what "there are plenty out there from Sony with no citations" has to do with anything. Sites like PetaPixel are full of garbage articles about all brands.
Thanks.

Why do you say only Fro? Do you think that Fro is the only reviewer who does proper reviews? I am one who respects his *in-depth* testing too. I also believe that several in the repository are good reviews. Do not have time to dig through them now. Must get back to my work.

I considered deleting the PetPixel review but folks had already commented on it. I decided I did not like the "outright passed them by considerable margin." phrase. It is not true. Each brand has features better than the other and it benefits us, the photographers

Something just came across NR about 800 development.

Later
Certainly Fro is not the only one that does proper reviews. He is just the only one I've seen so far that has done some comparisons to the competition. There will be lots of good reviews out there comparing the Z9 to past Nikon cameras but only a handful of ones that will compare to the competition (Fro, DPR, Steve Perry, Steve Mattheis and Mark Smith). Many Nikon shooters will only really care about how it stacks up to their other Nikon cameras but for me all I care about is how it stacks up against the A1, R5 and
...Show more →

The only review worth watching imo, will be steve perry!! He takes thousands and thousands of picture and test the camera good. He owns a sony a1, so he will be able to compare both.
Dec 13, 2021 at 06:58 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
bs kite wrote
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote"Nikon, the company that had been in third place behind Sony and Canon in the full-frame mirrorless market (and it wasn’t a close third place), has not only caught back up but has outright passed them technologically by a considerable margin. “

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/28/nikon-and-the-z9-are-the-photo-industrys-comeback-story-of-the-decade/
Interesting article. 100% based on the spec sheet, 0% based on hands on use. Seems like the worst type of click-bait out there. Even after reading the article I can't figure out what specs they are basing the "outright passed them by a considerable margin" on? Reads like 120FPS 11MP jpegs and video codecs?
And there are plenty out there from Sony that have no citations.

What did you think about my above comment? Did you like it?

"With the arrival of the Z9, the top position in the professional mirrorless world is now shared with Nikon.

This will become more apparent, as more pros become familar with the Z9.

Each brand has certain features that are better than the other.

And the competition benefits all photographers. "

Back to my book. Later.
Your comment is spot on. To be fully confirmed with proper back to back testing which to date I only see Fro having done and even then somewhat limited.

I'm not sure what "there are plenty out there from Sony with no citations" has to do with anything. Sites like PetaPixel are full of garbage articles about all brands.
Thanks.

Why do you say only Fro? Do you think that Fro is the only reviewer who does proper reviews? I am one who respects his *in-depth* testing too. I also believe that several in the repository are good reviews. Do not have time to dig through them now. Must get back to my work.

I considered deleting the PetPixel review but folks had already commented on it. I decided I did not like the "outright passed them by considerable margin." phrase. It is not true. Each brand has features better than the other and it benefits us, the photographers

Something just came across NR about 800 development.

Later
Certainly Fro is not the only one that does proper reviews. He is just the only one I've seen so far that has done some comparisons to the competition. There will be lots of good reviews out there comparing the Z9 to past Nikon cameras but only a handful of ones that will compare to the competition (Fro, DPR, Steve Perry, Steve Mattheis and Mark Smith). Many Nikon shooters will only really care about how it stacks up to their other Nikon cameras but for me all I care about is how it stacks up against the A1, R5 and
...Show more →

I'm placing a comment on his Z9 unboxing video. I would like him to test the autofocusing in video mode. How loud is it? Does its sound become recorded in the video? In the end, I also will be the one to decide what I do and do not like about the camera.

In the following video (at 2:45 and 3:04), they have a shotgun mic with a fake-fur sleeve over it..... mounted on the hotshoe. This leads me to at lease hope that I might be able to keep the mic on the hotshoe when doing short clips.



Dec 13, 2021 at 07:10 PM
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rick2906 wrote:
The only review worth watching imo, will be steve perry!! He takes thousands and thousands of picture and test the camera good. He owns a sony a1, so he will be able to compare both.


Steve is a class act. Fair, accurate, reasoned, thorough tester, great photographer, no drama for entertainment's sake.
Dec 13, 2021 at 07:21 PM
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Dec 13, 2021 at 07:27 PM
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rick2906 wrote:
The only review worth watching imo, will be steve perry!! He takes thousands and thousands of picture and test the camera good. He owns a sony a1, so he will be able to compare both.


Totally agree. One of the very rare youtubers that I can stand to watch the whole video on normal speed
Other reviewers may be good but there are far superior entertainments around, I don't need badly act comedy
when I watch camera review. At least we have enough choices of good reviewers with various styles to fit
our tastes

Dec 13, 2021 at 07:33 PM
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suteetat wrote:
rick2906 wroteThe only review worth watching imo, will be steve perry!! He takes thousands and thousands of picture and test the camera good. He owns a sony a1, so he will be able to compare both.
Totally agree. One of the very rare youtubers that I can stand to watch the whole video on normal speed
Other reviewers may be good but there are far superior entertainments around, I don't need badly act comedy
when I watch camera review. At least we have enough choices of good reviewers with various styles to fit
our tastes



Yuh, I hear you. Good point. His humor is not humor.

I still like the detail he goes into. Sent him a request to test Z9 AF to see how loud it is; i.e. can I hear it on the recordings I do, when the mic is on the hot shoe? I'll see if he does it.
Dec 13, 2021 at 08:50 PM
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