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p.15 #1Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
brian_sp wrote:
seems it is sissies that worry about the weight of the z9 so then they go buy the a1 then come back to the nikon forum to try and encourage everyone else to buy the little play thing
Not me, I’m a happy α1 user who is thrilled that Nikon have come out with a superb camera. I watched Polin’s pre-production review and I think that all those Nikon owners who clung to the company are now feeling vindicated.
Competition between the big three companies is good for all of us, they will push new technology to get ahead of the others.
Well done, Nikon.
seems it is sissies that worry about the weight of the z9 so then they go buy the a1 then come back to the nikon forum to try and encourage everyone else to buy the little play thing
Not me, I’m a happy α1 user who is thrilled that Nikon have come out with a superb camera. I watched Polin’s pre-production review and I think that all those Nikon owners who clung to the company are now feeling vindicated.
Competition between the big three companies is good for all of us, they will push new technology to get ahead of the others.
Well done, Nikon.
Dec 13, 2021 at 10:50 PM
p.15 #2Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
There is NO countdown. I won't repeat it but I did a separate post regarding what I found out about delivery times of the Z9, and its very very bad indeed. So look for my post
Dec 14, 2021 at 03:05 PM
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dcisive wrote:
There is NO countdown. I won't repeat it but I did a separate post regarding what I found out about delivery times of the Z9, and its very very bad indeed. So look for my post
Oh boy...here we go.
There is NO countdown. I won't repeat it but I did a separate post regarding what I found out about delivery times of the Z9, and its very very bad indeed. So look for my post
Oh boy...here we go.
Dec 14, 2021 at 03:09 PM
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Today there were multiple Z9s being displayed here in Bombay in a pre-launch event with dealers…one more week is what they said.
Dec 14, 2021 at 03:15 PM
p.15 #5Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
Dealer called today, it arrived at their store and is en route to me with FedEx tracking number provided. FTZII 😁
Dec 14, 2021 at 04:49 PM
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SeattleDucks wrote:
Dealer called today, it arrived at their store and is en route to me with FedEx tracking number provided. FTZII 😁
I have a bridge in New York for sale really cheap if you're interested
Dealer called today, it arrived at their store and is en route to me with FedEx tracking number provided. FTZII 😁
I have a bridge in New York for sale really cheap if you're interested
Dec 14, 2021 at 04:56 PM
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He said FTZ2
dcisive wrote:
I have a bridge in New York for sale really cheap if you're interested
dcisive wrote:
SeattleDucks wrote
Dealer called today, it arrived at their store and is en route to me with FedEx tracking number provided. FTZII 😁Dec 14, 2021 at 05:01 PM
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p.15 #8Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
LiveShots wrote:
Not me, I’m a happy α1 user who is thrilled that Nikon have come out with a superb camera. I watched Polin’s pre-production review and I think that all those Nikon owners who clung to the company are now feeling vindicated.
Competition between the big three companies is good for all of us, they will push new technology to get ahead of the others.
Well done, Nikon.
watch what you say in public...a statement like that can get you drilled out of the under the bridge sony troll club
Not me, I’m a happy α1 user who is thrilled that Nikon have come out with a superb camera. I watched Polin’s pre-production review and I think that all those Nikon owners who clung to the company are now feeling vindicated.
Competition between the big three companies is good for all of us, they will push new technology to get ahead of the others.
Well done, Nikon.
watch what you say in public...a statement like that can get you drilled out of the under the bridge sony troll club
Dec 14, 2021 at 05:07 PM
p.15 #9Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
rick2906 wrote:
And there are plenty out there from Sony that have no citations.
What did you think about my above comment? Did you like it?
"With the arrival of the Z9, the top position in the professional mirrorless world is now shared with Nikon.
This will become more apparent, as more pros become familar with the Z9.
Each brand has certain features that are better than the other.
And the competition benefits all photographers. "
Back to my book. Later.Your comment is spot on. To be fully confirmed with proper back to back testing which to date I only see Fro having done and even then somewhat limited.
I'm not sure what "there are plenty out there from Sony with no citations" has to do with anything. Sites like PetaPixel are full of garbage articles about all brands.Thanks.
Why do you say only Fro? Do you think that Fro is the only reviewer who does proper reviews? I am one who respects his *in-depth* testing too. I also believe that several in the repository are good reviews. Do not have time to dig through them now. Must get back to my work.
I considered deleting the PetPixel review but folks had already commented on it. I decided I did not like the "outright passed them by considerable margin." phrase. It is not true. Each brand has features better than the other and it benefits us, the photographers
Something just came across NR about 800 development.
LaterCertainly Fro is not the only one that does proper reviews. He is just the only one I've seen so far that has done some comparisons to the competition. There will be lots of good reviews out there comparing the Z9 to past Nikon cameras but only a handful of ones that will compare to the competition (Fro, DPR, Steve Perry, Steve Mattheis and Mark Smith). Many Nikon shooters will only really care about how it stacks up to their other Nikon cameras but for me all I care about is how it stacks up against the A1, R5 and R3. Which I'll test myself anyways but still....
Yes 800mm Z lens will have development announcement alongside that 28-75 as per Nokishita and NRs. Good times!!The only review worth watching imo, will be steve perry!! He takes thousands and thousands of picture and test the camera good. He owns a sony a1, so he will be able to compare both.
If you like Steve Perry, you might want to check out Mark Smith.
The dude is such a great story teller, I love the way he narrates the photo shooting, his opsrey photos are simply another level.
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote
arbitrage wrote
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arbitrage wrote
Interesting article. 100% based on the spec sheet, 0% based on hands on use. Seems like the worst type of click-bait out there. Even after reading the article I can't figure out what specs they are basing the "outright passed them by a considerable margin" on? Reads like 120FPS 11MP jpegs and video codecs?What did you think about my above comment? Did you like it?
"With the arrival of the Z9, the top position in the professional mirrorless world is now shared with Nikon.
This will become more apparent, as more pros become familar with the Z9.
Each brand has certain features that are better than the other.
And the competition benefits all photographers. "
Back to my book. Later.
I'm not sure what "there are plenty out there from Sony with no citations" has to do with anything. Sites like PetaPixel are full of garbage articles about all brands.
Why do you say only Fro? Do you think that Fro is the only reviewer who does proper reviews? I am one who respects his *in-depth* testing too. I also believe that several in the repository are good reviews. Do not have time to dig through them now. Must get back to my work.
I considered deleting the PetPixel review but folks had already commented on it. I decided I did not like the "outright passed them by considerable margin." phrase. It is not true. Each brand has features better than the other and it benefits us, the photographers
Something just came across NR about 800 development.
Later
Yes 800mm Z lens will have development announcement alongside that 28-75 as per Nokishita and NRs. Good times!!
If you like Steve Perry, you might want to check out Mark Smith.
The dude is such a great story teller, I love the way he narrates the photo shooting, his opsrey photos are simply another level.
Dec 15, 2021 at 01:17 AM
p.15 #10Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
BlackRockArts wrote:
What did you think about my above comment? Did you like it?
"With the arrival of the Z9, the top position in the professional mirrorless world is now shared with Nikon.
This will become more apparent, as more pros become familar with the Z9.
Each brand has certain features that are better than the other.
And the competition benefits all photographers. "
Back to my book. Later.Your comment is spot on. To be fully confirmed with proper back to back testing which to date I only see Fro having done and even then somewhat limited.
I'm not sure what "there are plenty out there from Sony with no citations" has to do with anything. Sites like PetaPixel are full of garbage articles about all brands.Thanks.
Why do you say only Fro? Do you think that Fro is the only reviewer who does proper reviews? I am one who respects his *in-depth* testing too. I also believe that several in the repository are good reviews. Do not have time to dig through them now. Must get back to my work.
I considered deleting the PetPixel review but folks had already commented on it. I decided I did not like the "outright passed them by considerable margin." phrase. It is not true. Each brand has features better than the other and it benefits us, the photographers
Something just came across NR about 800 development.
LaterCertainly Fro is not the only one that does proper reviews. He is just the only one I've seen so far that has done some comparisons to the competition. There will be lots of good reviews out there comparing the Z9 to past Nikon cameras but only a handful of ones that will compare to the competition (Fro, DPR, Steve Perry, Steve Mattheis and Mark Smith). Many Nikon shooters will only really care about how it stacks up to their other Nikon cameras but for me all I care about is how it stacks up against the A1, R5 and R3. Which I'll test myself anyways but still....
Yes 800mm Z lens will have development announcement alongside that 28-75 as per Nokishita and NRs. Good times!!The only review worth watching imo, will be steve perry!! He takes thousands and thousands of picture and test the camera good. He owns a sony a1, so he will be able to compare both.If you like Steve Perry, you might want to check out Mark Smith.
The dude is such a great story teller, I love the way he narrates the photo shooting, his opsrey photos are simply another level.
I use to watch him until he switch to Sony . He did order a Z9, I might start watching him again! I didn't really like the way he narrated. He always use to say , oh amazing! He might have changed
rick2906 wrote
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote
arbitrage wrote
bs kite wrote
And there are plenty out there from Sony that have no citations.What did you think about my above comment? Did you like it?
"With the arrival of the Z9, the top position in the professional mirrorless world is now shared with Nikon.
This will become more apparent, as more pros become familar with the Z9.
Each brand has certain features that are better than the other.
And the competition benefits all photographers. "
Back to my book. Later.
I'm not sure what "there are plenty out there from Sony with no citations" has to do with anything. Sites like PetaPixel are full of garbage articles about all brands.
Why do you say only Fro? Do you think that Fro is the only reviewer who does proper reviews? I am one who respects his *in-depth* testing too. I also believe that several in the repository are good reviews. Do not have time to dig through them now. Must get back to my work.
I considered deleting the PetPixel review but folks had already commented on it. I decided I did not like the "outright passed them by considerable margin." phrase. It is not true. Each brand has features better than the other and it benefits us, the photographers
Something just came across NR about 800 development.
Later
Yes 800mm Z lens will have development announcement alongside that 28-75 as per Nokishita and NRs. Good times!!
The dude is such a great story teller, I love the way he narrates the photo shooting, his opsrey photos are simply another level.
I use to watch him until he switch to Sony . He did order a Z9, I might start watching him again! I didn't really like the way he narrated. He always use to say , oh amazing! He might have changed
Dec 15, 2021 at 05:30 AM
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wouldn't the focus noise be more lens related ?
Yuh, I hear you. Good point. His humor is not humor.
I still like the detail he goes into. Sent him a request to test Z9 AF to see how loud it is; i.e. can I hear it on the recordings I do, when the mic is on the hot shoe? I'll see if he does it.
Yuh, I hear you. Good point. His humor is not humor.
I still like the detail he goes into. Sent him a request to test Z9 AF to see how loud it is; i.e. can I hear it on the recordings I do, when the mic is on the hot shoe? I'll see if he does it.
Dec 15, 2021 at 07:15 AM
p.15 #12Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
JackBarlow wrote:
wouldn't the focus noise be more lens related ?
Yuh, I hear you. Good point. His humor is not humor.
I still like the detail he goes into. Sent him a request to test Z9 AF to see how loud it is; i.e. can I hear it on the recordings I do, when the mic is on the hot shoe? I'll see if he does it.
JackBarlow wrote: "wouldn't the focus noise be more lens related?"
So, I did some experimenting with various lenses and noise adjustments inside the D850. It turns out that you are right!
I will post more on this later.
Thank you for making the suggestion.
wouldn't the focus noise be more lens related ?
Yuh, I hear you. Good point. His humor is not humor.
I still like the detail he goes into. Sent him a request to test Z9 AF to see how loud it is; i.e. can I hear it on the recordings I do, when the mic is on the hot shoe? I'll see if he does it.
JackBarlow wrote: "wouldn't the focus noise be more lens related?"
So, I did some experimenting with various lenses and noise adjustments inside the D850. It turns out that you are right!
I will post more on this later.
Thank you for making the suggestion.
Dec 15, 2021 at 12:04 PM
p.15 #13Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
Makes sense - motor is in the lens
Dec 15, 2021 at 01:38 PM
p.15 #14Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
T minus 8 and counting.
Dec 16, 2021 at 05:28 AM
p.15 #15Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
gdsf2 wrote:
Makes sense - motor is in the lens
didn't we talk about this before?
Makes sense - motor is in the lens
didn't we talk about this before?
Dec 16, 2021 at 05:44 AM
p.15 #16Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
If it *is* released on the 24th, even those who get it first, will not get it until after Christmas. No biggy; I am not complaining. At least they'll know it is on the way. Well, likely not that too. Christmas Eve? I know Arbitrage; you brought this up before.
Hello Nikon.... Hello!
Why the 24th? I think December 24th was the latest date Nikon could set, to still get Christmas sales.
Then, why did they not advertise this one on TV? Too expensive? The unexpected sales from this Z9, may have been enough to afford it. But what do I know about that? Just throwing the thought out there.
I remember back in the day that Canon advertised SLR's on TV a lot.
Google "Canon AE-1 Televsion ads". There are a bunch of them.
Hello Nikon.... Hello!
Why the 24th? I think December 24th was the latest date Nikon could set, to still get Christmas sales.
Then, why did they not advertise this one on TV? Too expensive? The unexpected sales from this Z9, may have been enough to afford it. But what do I know about that? Just throwing the thought out there.
I remember back in the day that Canon advertised SLR's on TV a lot.
Google "Canon AE-1 Televsion ads". There are a bunch of them.
Dec 16, 2021 at 05:44 AM
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I hate to tell you this Robert, as it may age you, but very few people watch TV today. The type of production required to pull off a TV ad is so expensive, that no camera company would gain enough sales/market share to make it worth wild. In contrast, Facebook Ads, Google Ads, and YouTube Ads reach more people and cost very little to produce.
Back in the day, Canon, Nikon, Minolta, and Pentax did on air TV commercials, but these were for high volume entry level to mid-level cameras.
While it might seem like there are "huge" sales of Z9 cameras, the number sold will probably be 1/5 (or less) than the number of Z50 or Z5 cameras. Only a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of photo pros, photo enthusiasts, and photo novices will be willing to spend $5500 on a large professional camera. Heck, I consider myself to be sitting between pro and advanced amateur nature photographer, and I am not willing to spend that much on a camera.
cheers,
bruce
Back in the day, Canon, Nikon, Minolta, and Pentax did on air TV commercials, but these were for high volume entry level to mid-level cameras.
While it might seem like there are "huge" sales of Z9 cameras, the number sold will probably be 1/5 (or less) than the number of Z50 or Z5 cameras. Only a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of photo pros, photo enthusiasts, and photo novices will be willing to spend $5500 on a large professional camera. Heck, I consider myself to be sitting between pro and advanced amateur nature photographer, and I am not willing to spend that much on a camera.
cheers,
bruce
Dec 16, 2021 at 05:56 AM
p.15 #18Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
Well Bruce, I think you are right about the television thing. I did not think of that. Times have sure changed.
But now the Z9 sales comment, I am not sure you or anyone here knows that one.
But I sure refuse to debate it and I do not care anyway.
Have a nice day
Robert
But now the Z9 sales comment, I am not sure you or anyone here knows that one.
But I sure refuse to debate it and I do not care anyway.
Have a nice day
Robert
Dec 16, 2021 at 06:31 AM
p.15 #19Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
Had a chat with my shop in the UK and they don't have any of the FTZ II, 100-400 or Z9 yet. He knows they're on the way and is optimsitic about 23/24th next week but he said they get no clue at all from Nikon as to when they're getting products and how many until they open the box and it could easily be January.
Still, if they're optimistic then I shall stay optimistic. If Christmas movies taught me anything it's that Christmas miracles are far more likely if I believe in them
Still, if they're optimistic then I shall stay optimistic. If Christmas movies taught me anything it's that Christmas miracles are far more likely if I believe in them
Dec 16, 2021 at 07:26 AM
p.15 #20Z9: Countdown to air shipment and release.......
I think you’ll be ok for the 24th. Either way, we know they are hustling to get everything shipped.
And you are right: Dealers do not have a clue until they know the stuff is on the way.
I’ve talked with NikonUsa many times over the years, and it is always the same story: "We do not know any sooner than you do.”
I think it’s true.
And you are right: Dealers do not have a clue until they know the stuff is on the way.
I’ve talked with NikonUsa many times over the years, and it is always the same story: "We do not know any sooner than you do.”
I think it’s true.
Dec 16, 2021 at 08:47 AM