Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
p.45 #1Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
I thought the R6II introduced it for Canon
indusphoto wrote:
I don't know about other canon cameras, but Canon R5 does not have auto subject selection. You need to select people, animals, and vehicles. To my knowledge only Nikon Z9 has full auto mode.
Plus some other things . The one thing I lost was 1/400 flash sync. But not the biggest deal. One thing I realized was full HDMI input which when I shoot live in ballroom I may not need my computer and be tethered I can just go to ballroom HDMI production booth for big screens. That alone maybe huge for me. I will have more to talk about Tuesday. It's coming in hot like overnight. I also saved the tax man . Plus I am at less financial risk . Drove me crazy when I had Medium Format Phase backs. Thats a lot of money to hit the deck
Important but my A1 is going to a nice member and I like its finding a new home. I did love that cam, no question but Mama wanted new shoes too. Happy wife happy life."Sony A7R V autofocus, AI, subject detection"
Check out this A7rV Auto focus, AI scrutiny starting at the 16:58 mark in the Video. Pretty much spells out the good and the less than perfect--but even at the less than perfect, not sure we can call these slight misses "not good" and I'm sure this will improve with firmware over time.
This looks like it could help improve hit rates on your catwalk projects. But better than the A1's other attributes is the question...
Also what I learned from this video is that we get CDAF only in the borders of the frame--I guess I hadn't realized that previously but also not in the habit of placing action in the borders of the frame intentionally---but good to know regardless and never say never, particularly shooting motocross or other high action events.
A7rV AI AF "Better than the A7rIV, but not better overall than the Canon R5"--Gordon. He also feels the new A7rV AI AF is less automated than what he hoped, meaning still have to push a lot buttons to select AI subjects rather than like the Canon AI auto-subject recognition.
https://youtu.be/Igay_6_KFNg"A7rV AI AF "Better than the A7rIV, but not better overall than the Canon R5"--Gordon. He also feels the new A7rV AI AF is less automated than what he hoped, meaning still have to push a lot buttons to select AI subjects rather than like the Canon AI auto-subject recognition."
Maybe just me but I would rather be the one telling the camera on a specific thing that I want it in focus. If you have a person, car, and animal in the shot for example I wouldn't want the camera deciding which I want in focus.
indusphoto wrote:
I don't know about other canon cameras, but Canon R5 does not have auto subject selection. You need to select people, animals, and vehicles. To my knowledge only Nikon Z9 has full auto mode.
nhsonyshooter wrote
LBJ2 wrote
GMPhotography wrote
Some things I really am looking forward too is the AF tracking, it sounds like I won't lose people when they turn on me. Maybe my top 5 reasons to go for it. Second is I can still use electronic shutter with minimum roll in APSC mode that might have sold me right there(credit to someone on this thread that mentioned that). 3 is im back to 61mpx which I like to test lenses but hey 50mpx was good too. Lens stabilization was up there . Finding out it did have anti flicker and variable shutter which are only on the newest models A9II, A1 its on my A7rV as well. Im in heaven on that one. Fighting LED banding is tough enough. Lower mechanical noise on shutter. Same setup as my A7IV with buttons, and placements. I may not even know what camera I have in my hands. I love that sameness. I love the top right dial now's I can put focus area on that and lock it down. See I did my homework.Plus some other things . The one thing I lost was 1/400 flash sync. But not the biggest deal. One thing I realized was full HDMI input which when I shoot live in ballroom I may not need my computer and be tethered I can just go to ballroom HDMI production booth for big screens. That alone maybe huge for me. I will have more to talk about Tuesday. It's coming in hot like overnight. I also saved the tax man . Plus I am at less financial risk . Drove me crazy when I had Medium Format Phase backs. Thats a lot of money to hit the deck
Important but my A1 is going to a nice member and I like its finding a new home. I did love that cam, no question but Mama wanted new shoes too. Happy wife happy life.
Check out this A7rV Auto focus, AI scrutiny starting at the 16:58 mark in the Video. Pretty much spells out the good and the less than perfect--but even at the less than perfect, not sure we can call these slight misses "not good" and I'm sure this will improve with firmware over time.
This looks like it could help improve hit rates on your catwalk projects. But better than the A1's other attributes is the question...
Also what I learned from this video is that we get CDAF only in the borders of the frame--I guess I hadn't realized that previously but also not in the habit of placing action in the borders of the frame intentionally---but good to know regardless and never say never, particularly shooting motocross or other high action events.
A7rV AI AF "Better than the A7rIV, but not better overall than the Canon R5"--Gordon. He also feels the new A7rV AI AF is less automated than what he hoped, meaning still have to push a lot buttons to select AI subjects rather than like the Canon AI auto-subject recognition.
https://youtu.be/Igay_6_KFNg
Maybe just me but I would rather be the one telling the camera on a specific thing that I want it in focus. If you have a person, car, and animal in the shot for example I wouldn't want the camera deciding which I want in focus.
Dec 10, 2022 at 02:11 PM
p.45 #2Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
The 70200gm2 is a revelation indeed. At first i almost sent it back because the bokeh is quite a bit more structured than the GM1 and its a bit less organic. Sometimes it has less dimensionality (pop) but many times even more, at least in my experience.
Everything else, it is so much better that you are simply awe struck at the improvement in lens design and technology 😮
LBJ2 wrote:
. Wait I can't do that I need my A1 for that stuff. Okay bad joke
Actually in all seriousness once I upgrade my 70-200 Version II for the A7rV that maybe a good test . There like 50 yards out my back gateWhen I upgraded the GM 70-200II to be more compatible with the A7rV's new IBIS system when that firmware first came out, I had no idea/intention back then to ever buy the A7rV. Maybe Fate knew something I didn't at the time 😎
GM 70-200 ver II is a BEAUTIFUL 70-200. Every time I scroll through some of my event catalogs from late last year, the ver II portraits always catch my eye and I stop and pixel peep of course. For an event zoom, the GM 70-200 VII is gold!
Everything else, it is so much better that you are simply awe struck at the improvement in lens design and technology 😮
LBJ2 wrote:
GMPhotography wrote
Looks nice and sharp . I have a ton of Canadian Geese out my back door. Im on a golf course , maybe I will go pick a few off.. Wait I can't do that I need my A1 for that stuff. Okay bad jokeActually in all seriousness once I upgrade my 70-200 Version II for the A7rV that maybe a good test . There like 50 yards out my back gate
GM 70-200 ver II is a BEAUTIFUL 70-200. Every time I scroll through some of my event catalogs from late last year, the ver II portraits always catch my eye and I stop and pixel peep of course. For an event zoom, the GM 70-200 VII is gold!
Dec 10, 2022 at 02:14 PM
p.45 #3Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
BTW anyone looking to buy a A7RV than Allens in Levitown has them in stock. I ordered from them. I grew up down the road as they say and they are a wonderful shop. Contact Marlena and let them know Guy sent you along. Im getting nothing out of that except to help others. They are just really nice folks
Mine is being overnighted to me
https://allenscamera.com
Mine is being overnighted to me
https://allenscamera.com
Dec 10, 2022 at 02:21 PM
p.45 #4Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
GMPhotography wrote:
I will watch that
Ordered a 5th battery . Folks are saying it drains fast I wonder if it’s from new batteries as the need to get optimized after a few uses
It’s CIPA rated for about 20% less battery life. Probably the big bright high rez EVF in part.
I will watch that
Ordered a 5th battery . Folks are saying it drains fast I wonder if it’s from new batteries as the need to get optimized after a few uses
It’s CIPA rated for about 20% less battery life. Probably the big bright high rez EVF in part.
Dec 10, 2022 at 02:28 PM
p.45 #5Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Probably so David. I’m okay with it. More tech needs more juice
Dec 10, 2022 at 02:47 PM
p.45 #6Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
My local Sony dealer in Las Vegas still has 6 in stock and I am so tempted. I sold my last A1 last year and downsized to the A7IV which I've actually been enjoying. I know there are some unfounded rumors about an updated A7IV version coming soon with some A7RV features, but they are just that, rumors. For what I shoot 33mp is good enough 99.999% of the time and the AF on the A7IV is really good. The A7RV AF intrigues me, that and the new flip screen are the main reasons I am looking at the A7RV to go along with my A7IV. It's more of a want than a need, but with them being still in stock at my local store it's just so tempting
Dec 10, 2022 at 02:55 PM
p.45 #7Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
GMPhotography wrote:
Probably so David. I’m okay with it. More tech needs more juice
I’m happy also to take a battery hit for that gorgeous gorgeous EVF (probably the AI chip as well).
Probably so David. I’m okay with it. More tech needs more juice
I’m happy also to take a battery hit for that gorgeous gorgeous EVF (probably the AI chip as well).
Dec 10, 2022 at 03:06 PM
p.45 #8Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
71sbeetle wrote:
My local Sony dealer in Las Vegas still has 6 in stock and I am so tempted. I sold my last A1 last year and downsized to the A7IV which I've actually been enjoying. I know there are some unfounded rumors about an updated A7IV version coming soon with some A7RV features, but they are just that, rumors. For what I shoot 33mp is good enough 99.999% of the time and the AF on the A7IV is really good. The A7RV AF intrigues me, that and the new flip screen are the main reasons I am looking at the A7RV...Show more →
For many people here (me included), it's almost always more a want than a need. Nothing wrong with that
My local Sony dealer in Las Vegas still has 6 in stock and I am so tempted. I sold my last A1 last year and downsized to the A7IV which I've actually been enjoying. I know there are some unfounded rumors about an updated A7IV version coming soon with some A7RV features, but they are just that, rumors. For what I shoot 33mp is good enough 99.999% of the time and the AF on the A7IV is really good. The A7RV AF intrigues me, that and the new flip screen are the main reasons I am looking at the A7RV...Show more →
For many people here (me included), it's almost always more a want than a need. Nothing wrong with that
Dec 10, 2022 at 03:08 PM
p.45 #9Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
You’re feeling like a lot of us. I really like my A7IV and this A7R5 mirrors it external pretty much but these added features look really great. I gave up my A1 for this. Crazy as it sounds but I can get by easily without it. I may burn up a A7IV quicker with mechanical shutter but I’m okay with that. I have a need and no one has given me a definitive answer to it just quessing. I don’t guess so I resigned my self to use mechanical shutter for my big gig. I still think I can use electronic shutter and I’ll answer that
Anyway go to that link above no tax. Have fun enjoy life
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Dec 10, 2022 at 03:11 PM
p.45 #10Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
I'd be surprised if A7RV consumed the battery faster than A1...
Dec 10, 2022 at 03:11 PM
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p.45 #11Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
j4nu wrote:
I'd be surprised if A7RV consumed the battery faster than A1...
My A1 was a pig for sure
I'd be surprised if A7RV consumed the battery faster than A1...
My A1 was a pig for sure
Dec 10, 2022 at 03:16 PM
p.45 #12Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Bokehddicted wrote:
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-firmware-updated-adds-a7rv-compatibility-on-four-lenses/amp/
You forgot the 100-400gm
I already know about the lenses that were recently firmware updated for this purpose:
FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS
FE 200-600mm F5.6-6.3 G OSS
FE 70-200mm F2.8 GM OSS II
Is there a list somewhere of the other Sony lenses capable of up to the A7rV's 8-stop IBIS? Thanks!
Yes! Looks like the 100-400GM fell of the cut-n-paste.
So is this it? Only these four lenses that are compatible with up to 8 Stop IBIS with the A7rV so far... of all the Sony lenses? I can't find any additional info about the other Sony lenses. Seems strange only those four lenses...
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-firmware-updated-adds-a7rv-compatibility-on-four-lenses/amp/
You forgot the 100-400gm
LBJ2 wrote
Sorry If I missed this somewhere...But what Sony lenses are capable of up to the A7rV's 8-stop IBIS?I already know about the lenses that were recently firmware updated for this purpose:
FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS
FE 200-600mm F5.6-6.3 G OSS
FE 70-200mm F2.8 GM OSS II
Is there a list somewhere of the other Sony lenses capable of up to the A7rV's 8-stop IBIS? Thanks!
Yes! Looks like the 100-400GM fell of the cut-n-paste.
So is this it? Only these four lenses that are compatible with up to 8 Stop IBIS with the A7rV so far... of all the Sony lenses? I can't find any additional info about the other Sony lenses. Seems strange only those four lenses...
Dec 10, 2022 at 03:31 PM
p.45 #13Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Bokehddicted wrote:
The 70200gm2 is a revelation indeed. At first i almost sent it back because the bokeh is quite a bit more structured than the GM1 and its a bit less organic. Sometimes it has less dimensionality (pop) but many times even more, at least in my experience.
Everything else, it is so much better that you are simply awe struck at the improvement in lens design and technology 😮
. Wait I can't do that I need my A1 for that stuff. Okay bad joke
Actually in all seriousness once I upgrade my 70-200 Version II for the A7rV that maybe a good test . There like 50 yards out my back gateWhen I upgraded the GM 70-200II to be more compatible with the A7rV's new IBIS system when that firmware first came out, I had no idea/intention back then to ever buy the A7rV. Maybe Fate knew something I didn't at the time 😎
GM 70-200 ver II is a BEAUTIFUL 70-200. Every time I scroll through some of my event catalogs from late last year, the ver II portraits always catch my eye and I stop and pixel peep of course. For an event zoom, the GM 70-200 VII is gold!
Flare/ghosting is another topic where the 70-200 II may not be an improvement. I find it can be not so good shooting against the sun.
The 70200gm2 is a revelation indeed. At first i almost sent it back because the bokeh is quite a bit more structured than the GM1 and its a bit less organic. Sometimes it has less dimensionality (pop) but many times even more, at least in my experience.
Everything else, it is so much better that you are simply awe struck at the improvement in lens design and technology 😮
LBJ2 wrote
GMPhotography wrote
Looks nice and sharp . I have a ton of Canadian Geese out my back door. Im on a golf course , maybe I will go pick a few off.. Wait I can't do that I need my A1 for that stuff. Okay bad jokeActually in all seriousness once I upgrade my 70-200 Version II for the A7rV that maybe a good test . There like 50 yards out my back gate
GM 70-200 ver II is a BEAUTIFUL 70-200. Every time I scroll through some of my event catalogs from late last year, the ver II portraits always catch my eye and I stop and pixel peep of course. For an event zoom, the GM 70-200 VII is gold!
Flare/ghosting is another topic where the 70-200 II may not be an improvement. I find it can be not so good shooting against the sun.
Dec 10, 2022 at 03:43 PM
p.45 #14Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Bokehddicted wrote:
The 70200gm2 is a revelation indeed. At first i almost sent it back because the bokeh is quite a bit more structured than the GM1 and its a bit less organic. Sometimes it has less dimensionality (pop) but many times even more, at least in my experience.
Everything else, it is so much better that you are simply awe struck at the improvement in lens design and technology 😮
. Wait I can't do that I need my A1 for that stuff. Okay bad joke
Actually in all seriousness once I upgrade my 70-200 Version II for the A7rV that maybe a good test . There like 50 yards out my back gateWhen I upgraded the GM 70-200II to be more compatible with the A7rV's new IBIS system when that firmware first came out, I had no idea/intention back then to ever buy the A7rV. Maybe Fate knew something I didn't at the time 😎
GM 70-200 ver II is a BEAUTIFUL 70-200. Every time I scroll through some of my event catalogs from late last year, the ver II portraits always catch my eye and I stop and pixel peep of course. For an event zoom, the GM 70-200 VII is gold!
I haven't noticed more structured Bokeh, will have to go back and look. However as you are named "Bokehddicted" in this forum my guess is you would probably notice bokeh characteristics much more than I tend to. I'll for sure, have a look.
The 70200gm2 is a revelation indeed. At first i almost sent it back because the bokeh is quite a bit more structured than the GM1 and its a bit less organic. Sometimes it has less dimensionality (pop) but many times even more, at least in my experience.
Everything else, it is so much better that you are simply awe struck at the improvement in lens design and technology 😮
LBJ2 wrote
GMPhotography wrote
Looks nice and sharp . I have a ton of Canadian Geese out my back door. Im on a golf course , maybe I will go pick a few off.. Wait I can't do that I need my A1 for that stuff. Okay bad jokeActually in all seriousness once I upgrade my 70-200 Version II for the A7rV that maybe a good test . There like 50 yards out my back gate
GM 70-200 ver II is a BEAUTIFUL 70-200. Every time I scroll through some of my event catalogs from late last year, the ver II portraits always catch my eye and I stop and pixel peep of course. For an event zoom, the GM 70-200 VII is gold!
I haven't noticed more structured Bokeh, will have to go back and look. However as you are named "Bokehddicted" in this forum my guess is you would probably notice bokeh characteristics much more than I tend to. I'll for sure, have a look.
Dec 10, 2022 at 03:46 PM
p.45 #15Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
LBJ2 wrote:
You forgot the 100-400gm
I already know about the lenses that were recently firmware updated for this purpose:
FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS
FE 200-600mm F5.6-6.3 G OSS
FE 70-200mm F2.8 GM OSS II
Is there a list somewhere of the other Sony lenses capable of up to the A7rV's 8-stop IBIS? Thanks!Yes! Looks like the 100-400GM fell of the cut-n-paste.
So is this it? Only these four lenses that are compatible with up to 8 Stop IBIS with the A7rV so far... of all the Sony lenses? I can't find any additional info about the other Sony lenses. Seems strange only those four lenses...
Are there many more Sony lenses with OIS?
Also, Sony claims 8 stops with 50GM mounted...
Bokehddicted wrote
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-firmware-updated-adds-a7rv-compatibility-on-four-lenses/amp/You forgot the 100-400gm
LBJ2 wrote
Sorry If I missed this somewhere...But what Sony lenses are capable of up to the A7rV's 8-stop IBIS?I already know about the lenses that were recently firmware updated for this purpose:
FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS
FE 200-600mm F5.6-6.3 G OSS
FE 70-200mm F2.8 GM OSS II
Is there a list somewhere of the other Sony lenses capable of up to the A7rV's 8-stop IBIS? Thanks!
So is this it? Only these four lenses that are compatible with up to 8 Stop IBIS with the A7rV so far... of all the Sony lenses? I can't find any additional info about the other Sony lenses. Seems strange only those four lenses...
Are there many more Sony lenses with OIS?
Also, Sony claims 8 stops with 50GM mounted...
Dec 10, 2022 at 03:49 PM
p.45 #16Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Just came back from testing the A7rV. Loaded everything up from the CFE-A card into LR Classic and oopsie! Forgot about being an early adopter 😎
No worries Imaging Edge desktop to the rescue.
No worries Imaging Edge desktop to the rescue.
Dec 10, 2022 at 04:04 PM
p.45 #17Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Tell me about it..... Either C1 or EXIF hacks (or the route you mention.) Given I want DeepPRIME I have to go the hack the EXIF route.
Dec 10, 2022 at 04:05 PM
p.45 #18Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
In general it is not a problem. I am happy i didnt sent it back. Relieved even.
The first few pics i took were rather ‚unlucky‘ in retrospect. Portraits at the beach into the sunset.
The other first batch was unlucky as well, shot open close range at home with metal reflections turning into bokeh balls with some colored outlines.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z2gfay39bkq075u/AABwshnIr0mVjeIhwxyLEeR0a?dl=0
I just skimmed over 3k+ images and havent found any other where this was a problem.
LBJ2 wrote:
Everything else, it is so much better that you are simply awe struck at the improvement in lens design and technology 😮
. Wait I can't do that I need my A1 for that stuff. Okay bad joke
Actually in all seriousness once I upgrade my 70-200 Version II for the A7rV that maybe a good test . There like 50 yards out my back gateWhen I upgraded the GM 70-200II to be more compatible with the A7rV's new IBIS system when that firmware first came out, I had no idea/intention back then to ever buy the A7rV. Maybe Fate knew something I didn't at the time 😎
GM 70-200 ver II is a BEAUTIFUL 70-200. Every time I scroll through some of my event catalogs from late last year, the ver II portraits always catch my eye and I stop and pixel peep of course. For an event zoom, the GM 70-200 VII is gold!I haven't noticed more structured Bokeh, will have to go back and look. However as you are named "Bokehddicted" in this forum my guess is you would probably notice bokeh characteristics much more than I tend to. I'll for sure, have a look.
The first few pics i took were rather ‚unlucky‘ in retrospect. Portraits at the beach into the sunset.
The other first batch was unlucky as well, shot open close range at home with metal reflections turning into bokeh balls with some colored outlines.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z2gfay39bkq075u/AABwshnIr0mVjeIhwxyLEeR0a?dl=0
I just skimmed over 3k+ images and havent found any other where this was a problem.
LBJ2 wrote:
Bokehddicted wrote
The 70200gm2 is a revelation indeed. At first i almost sent it back because the bokeh is quite a bit more structured than the GM1 and its a bit less organic. Sometimes it has less dimensionality (pop) but many times even more, at least in my experience.Everything else, it is so much better that you are simply awe struck at the improvement in lens design and technology 😮
LBJ2 wrote
GMPhotography wrote
Looks nice and sharp . I have a ton of Canadian Geese out my back door. Im on a golf course , maybe I will go pick a few off.. Wait I can't do that I need my A1 for that stuff. Okay bad jokeActually in all seriousness once I upgrade my 70-200 Version II for the A7rV that maybe a good test . There like 50 yards out my back gate
GM 70-200 ver II is a BEAUTIFUL 70-200. Every time I scroll through some of my event catalogs from late last year, the ver II portraits always catch my eye and I stop and pixel peep of course. For an event zoom, the GM 70-200 VII is gold!
Dec 10, 2022 at 04:10 PM
p.45 #19Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
j4nu wrote:
I'd be surprised if A7RV consumed the battery faster than A1...
I had an A1 before this and this one seems to burn thru it a lot faster......too small a sample size though, haven't used it enough yet
I'd be surprised if A7RV consumed the battery faster than A1...
I had an A1 before this and this one seems to burn thru it a lot faster......too small a sample size though, haven't used it enough yet
Dec 10, 2022 at 04:17 PM
p.45 #20Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
That brings up a point here. Most people complain about white balance and color science and it's been shown that C1 renders Sony RAW files "better" than Adobe. Now everyone is saying the A7RV AWB and skin tones are better, but we haven't seen results with the Adobe conversion yet. Could that have a negative impact on this new perceived better color rendition once Adobe releases their update?
Dec 10, 2022 at 04:19 PM