p.27 #1 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
arbitrage wrote:
This is just A9II running normal Animal Eye-AF. It works on certain species but bird needs to really fill the frame. Most of the time I leave it turned off as I'm not often close enough to the birds to have it work. It also gives false positives on cross-hatched patterns and chequered patterns. But recently I've been leaving it on and seeing when it comes on and how it works when it does. A9 FW 6.0 should work about the same. I didn't find the A7RIV's Animal Eye AF to activate on birds as often.
I see! I usually leave it on but haven't seen the eye detected because I haven't got close enough.
OT: On another thread your commented on Sony's small embedded jpeg images. I suggested you try FastRawViewer. Have you tried it? It transformed my workflow and removed my biggest irritation with Sony.
p.27 #2 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
somersettr wrote:
I see! I usually leave it on but haven't seen the eye detected because I haven't got close enough.
OT: On another thread your commented on Sony's small embedded jpeg images. I suggested you try FastRawViewer. Have you tried it? It transformed my workflow and removed my biggest irritation with Sony.
FRV trial is on my list for this weekend. Will likely try it on my culling from whatever I shoot today.
p.27 #4 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Do we think that the A1 with bird-eye AF activated will still lock onto the bird when it is too far away to see the eye? It would be really useful if it did. When I've tracked a kingfisher flying low over the water with zone (non-tracking), the AF had a habit of focusing on surface weed that was within the zone area rather than the bird. I would hope the A1 would put some points on the bird by preference.
I haven't used eye AF with real-time tracking enough with people or dogs to know how it behaves in similar circumstances.
p.27 #5 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
somersettr wrote:
Do we think that the A1 with bird-eye AF activated will still lock onto the bird when it is too far away to see the eye? It would be really useful if it did. When I've tracked a kingfisher flying low over the water with zone (non-tracking), the AF had a habit of focusing on surface weed that was within the zone area rather than the bird. I would hope the A1 would put some points on the bird by preference.
I haven't used eye AF with real-time tracking enough with people or dogs to know how it behaves in similar circumstances....Show more →
It is tough to know for sure. If you use RTT then it probably will. If you use regular Zone (like I was doing in the A9II vids I posted earlier) then I'm not sure if it would do anything different than switch between some dancing dots in Zone to Eye-AF icon when it finds it. However, the tracking system is supposed to be improved overall. They have even added a Custom Button option to disable the RTT because it is so tenacious now. I'm not a RTT user on the A9II. I prefer the dancing dots of regular Zone and Wide. But I'm thinking that on the A1 RTT will have taken another leap forward and we may all start using it for everything. Just like RTT was a big improvement over Lock-On Tracking when A9 got the FW 5.0 update. If that ends up being the case then I think it will improve staying on your KF when it goes near the weed.
All of that is pure speculation but I'm pinning my hopes on the 1.5x faster read speed, 2x more AF calculations/s and the 8x more powerful XR processor with new AI software working on it.
p.27 #6 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
arbitrage wrote:
It is tough to know for sure. If you use RTT then it probably will. If you use regular Zone (like I was doing in the A9II vids I posted earlier) then I'm not sure if it would do anything different than switch between some dancing dots in Zone to Eye-AF icon when it finds it. However, the tracking system is supposed to be improved overall. They have even added a Custom Button option to disable the RTT because it is so tenacious now. I'm not a RTT user on the A9II. I prefer the dancing dots of regular Zone and Wide. But I'm thinking that on the A1 RTT will have taken another leap forward and we may all start using it for everything. Just like RTT was a big improvement over Lock-On Tracking when A9 got the FW 5.0 update. If that ends up being the case then I think it will improve staying on your KF when it goes near the weed.
All of that is pure speculation but I'm pinning my hopes on the 1.5x faster read speed, 2x more AF calculations/s and the 8x more powerful XR processor with new AI software working on it....Show more →
I hope so. I think I have succumbed to the A1.
Something else I'm a bit puzzled by is the AF-C down to f/22. With native lenses, I don't think there is a lens+TC combination that has a maximum aperture below f/13 so the A9II's f/16 would seem to be enough. Perhaps adapted lenses. It probably implies better performance though.
However, I do think that Sony could improve initial subject acquisition by automatically stopping down the lens to f/22 for the first few AF cycles so that the sensor can "see" a blurred subject nearer to the camera than the current focus distance. If it "sees" that closer subject, it could then incrementally open the aperture during subsequent AF cycles until the photographer's chosen aperture is reached and the subject acquired. If it doesn't "see" a closer subject, it open up the aperture anyway. This would reduc ethe requirement to pre-focus quite as much.
p.27 #7 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
ShootPDX wrote:
B&H also said the Fuji GFX 100S sensor is "double the size of full frame." Well, that's what the guy in the B&H 100S announcement video said. He made some other bizarre mistakes. So, I wouldn't trust their information 100%.
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If you don't trust them .. here's a guy you can certainly trust ...
p.27 #8 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
ShootPDX wrote:
B&H also said the Fuji GFX 100S sensor is "double the size of full frame." Well, that's what the guy in the B&H 100S announcement video said. He made some other bizarre mistakes. So, I wouldn't trust their information 100%.
I mean, it's not that far off double. The GFX100s sensor is 44x33mm, which is an area of 1452 mm^2, compared to full frame at 36x24, which is 864 mm^2. It's not quite double, but it's ~1.7x, which I suppose you could round up to 2.
p.27 #11 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Jman13 wrote:
I mean, it's not that far off double. The GFX100s sensor is 44x33mm, which is an area of 1452 mm^2, compared to full frame at 36x24, which is 864 mm^2. It's not quite double, but it's ~1.7x, which I suppose you could round up to 2.
I don't minding rounding up when it's a fraction of the total, but when it changes the overall value by more than 20%, there's no point in rounding.
Either way, the guy didn't know what he's talking about. No matter how you dice it, it ain't double FF.
p.27 #12 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
buffalowolff wrote:
Fro's unboxing, fresh from the Sony money truck:
The video makes one thing more obvious. It's possible to jam specs into a small A1 body, but trying to pack armor into it could be next to impossible.
Evidently it will be up to the purchasers whether the body fits their wants. Without a grip, it sure packs small. But lenses really alter that benefit a lot. The smaller form of a $6000 body, seems most useful coupled with the smallest lenses available.
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p.27 #13 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
IrishDino wrote:
As a wedding shooter, this....isn't what I wanted.
Any Sony mirrorless in the last 3 year are already overkill for wedding.
p.27 #15 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Jman13 wrote:
I mean, it's not that far off double. The GFX100s sensor is 44x33mm, which is an area of 1452 mm^2, compared to full frame at 36x24, which is 864 mm^2. It's not quite double, but it's ~1.7x, which I suppose you could round up to 2.
Mathematically correct, but it is still inaccurate and will create moe confusion than clarity in this very practical case.
p.27 #16 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
mdvaden wrote:
The video makes one thing more obvious. It's possible to jam specs into a small A1 body, but trying to pack armor into it could be next to impossible.
Evidently it will be up to the purchasers whether the body fits their wants. Without a grip, it sure packs small. But lenses really alter that benefit a lot. The smaller form of a $6000 body, seems most useful coupled with the smallest lenses available.
The Alphas with the current gen ergos are extremely comfortable in the hand. I was finally able to stop using a baseplate to catch my pinky and I have big hands.
Using any "big white" equivalent lens, the camera body become irrelevant. The only valid complaint left is the gapping between the grip and the lenses, which for some can be uncomfortable with very large lenses, but even a 100-400 balances nicely on the current gen bodies (I one-hand mine frequently).
p.27 #17 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
RoamingScott wrote:
The Alphas with the current gen ergos are extremely comfortable in the hand. I was finally able to stop using a baseplate to catch my pinky and I have big hands.
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The primary point of my post above deals with "armor" or toughness residing within camera bodies.
Anything else in my post, all points back to whether the toughness matters or not for whomever, regardless what size lenses they shoot with.
p.27 #19 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
mdvaden wrote:
The primary point of my post above deals with "armor" or toughness residing within camera bodies.
Anything else in my post, all points back to whether the toughness matters or not for whomever, regardless what size lenses they shoot with.
Never had a camera body fail due to its size, small or large. Anything from Olympus E-P2 to Nikon D800 including Leica M9, nothing ever failed due to size. Not even old manual focus film SLRs like Nikon FM2 or Olympus OM-1.
p.27 #20 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
RoamingScott wrote:
Do you have any data to point to that a smaller Sony is less resilient than a larger body of some other brand?
And your post stated that a "small" body needs to be pair with a small lens for optimum usefulness, which is of course asinine in this case.
Again .. you need to pay attention to the general context of what people are writing.
It would take no data to understand that there's little to no space in a small body like for added tough material. It does not mean the body is weak, but space is limited.
Especially with 8K video, it may be bad to add "armor" as I called it.
