p.3 #1 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
canucks wrote:
Not sure if you’ll see a lot. $6500 is a lot of money to justify the switch. Most professionals need two cameras too.
Yeah. If the a1 was $5000, I could see a lot of a9ii people ditching their cameras. But at $6500, which is 2k more than the a9ii retail value, I think that's a step beyond that a lot of people are going to stick with their first or second gen a9 cameras. Unless you're a hybrid shooter (who does tons of landscape AND tons of action shot work), I don't think that the a1 will really draw many a7r shooters. Perhaps if you have someone who owns both an A7iii AND and an a7riv, they may justify selling both cameras to get an a1, but I don't know.
p.3 #2 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Basically everything I wanted except the full size body. Like davidnumrich said, I sure hope the buffer clears quickly. Especially given what those cards cost. Painful.
p.3 #3 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
canucks wrote:
Do you think the flash with e-shutter can be added via firmware to other Sony’s like the a9ii?
I'm guessing no, since it's probably achieved with a faster sensor readout speed. They claim up to 1.5x reduced rolling shutter compared to the A9ii, which I believe was estimated to have around 1/115 ~ 1/130 second sensor readout speed. 1.5x would put it pretty close to the 1/200 e-shutter flash sync speed they enabled in the A1.
p.3 #4 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Put in orders for me and my daughter this AM at my local retailer. Pricy, yes, but not compared to the lens collection and this should make a huge difference for bird photography vs the A9s.
p.3 #5 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Now we know why the AP opted for Sony, though I expect Canon will match this in their flagship mirrorless camera, as may Nikon. I'm really wondering how they managed to keep the body small, weather sealed and apparently heat dissipating for 8k video up to 30 minutes.
p.3 #6 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Sony A1 is the end of A9 line. You will see here on forums, tons of A9 and A9ii dumped. Beneficiaries: you will be able to pick up A9 used super cheap soon.
A1 with 50MP to crop, bird eyeF ,30fps, is exactly the camera A9 shooter would want.
And those who can spend $4500 for A9II can probably spend $5999 for A1. There is no point of A9 line period, unless it will be heavily discounted (be costing like Canon R6 for example).
p.3 #7 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
motorhead9999 wrote:
Yeah. If the a1 was $5000, I could see a lot of a9ii people ditching their cameras. But at $6500, which is 2k more than the a9ii retail value, I think that's a step beyond that a lot of people are going to stick with their first or second gen a9 cameras. Unless you're a hybrid shooter (who does tons of landscape AND tons of action shot work), I don't think that the a1 will really draw many a7r shooters. Perhaps if you have someone who owns both an A7iii AND and an a7riv, they may justify selling both cameras to get an a1, but I don't know....Show more →
Nope, I think tons of people will switch. You are talking about birders. You sell A9II and one lens, and you are there. The benefits: 50MPS to crop, 30fps, and Bird Eye Af, these three things will immediately make birders switch. If Sony wants to keep A9 line alive, they will have to heavily discount it (to cost like Canon R6 which also shares 20fps and 20mp).
p.3 #8 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
alphanumeric wrote:
Except for the fact that unlike Leica, Sony actually has class leading features, not just nostalgia going for it.
I have a Leica SL2, Leica SL2-S, APO Summicron-SL lenses - 35, 50, 90 and the 50mm Summilux-SL. I used it on a photoshoot over Thanksgiving weekend and ended up using my daughter's a7r iii and 35 1.8 because I was getting inconsistent focus results in AFc (apparently my error for being in the wrong mode).
Don't get me wrong - the Leica images are stunning. I just need a system where I don't have to worry about focus issues. Also, something that integrates with a flash, strobe - can use HSS, etc.
Honestly. I can sell all of my Leica gear and pick up the alpha 1 and pretty much every lens I would want - and still have funds left over to travel with when it's safe to again.
p.3 #9 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
absolutic wrote:
Sony A1 is the end of A9 line. You will see here on forums, tons of A9 and A9ii dumped. Beneficiaries: you will be able to pick up A9 used super cheap soon.
A1 with 50MP to crop, bird eyeF ,30fps, is exactly the camera A9 shooter would want.
And those who can spend $4500 for A9II can probably spend $5999 for A1. There is no point of A9 line period, unless it will be heavily discounted (be costing like Canon R6 for example).
....not sure about that. A lot of pros still consider 50 MP overkill.
p.3 #10 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
The specs on it are spectacular but damn - $6500 is a lot of money. If I was a professional photographer I guess I'd jump all over it, but I have a hard time justifying a camera for half that price for my use case. I guess the best I can do is to wait for the tech to trickle down into the lower cameras in future generations.
p.3 #12 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Wow, that's a tour de force. It's priced exactly where the 1 series for Nikon and Canon are so I don't think we need to speculate about who they think their market is.
Look at the time they spent on connectivity and connectivity options, including ethernet. They're aiming this squarely at the full-time pro and, I imagine, hoping to sell a bunch to eager hobbyists as well.
The way I look at it...more people spend way more money on cars they won't and can't use. These days $6500 is just a trim level or option package, even on mid level family sedans. So, when you price out your next car, go one level down and stop off at the camera store on the way home
p.3 #13 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Depends if Canon has accelerated their development cycle. I don't see them cannibalizing their R5's. If its still a 3+ year cycle for the top end, Sony has a very rosy outlook for the next 2.5 years.
johnvanr wrote:
Now we know why the AP opted for Sony, though I expect Canon will match this in their flagship mirrorless camera, as may Nikon. I'm really wondering how they managed to keep the body small, weather sealed and apparently heat dissipating for 8k video up to 30 minutes.
p.3 #14 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Talk that few will buy an A1 because of the price seems a bit disingenuous on this forum. I understand that most of us, including me, will not because of the price. Yet a lot of people here, judging from postings, are willing to spend $12-13K for a lens. No criticism if you do -- if you can afford it more power to you. It's just that I think more people will buy this camera than the comments so far suggest.
p.3 #15 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
I have exactly 1 complaint:
I wish it had a vertical tilt on the screen like Fuji cameras.
I honestly can't believe the extent to which Sony threw the kitchen sink in there. I feel that 50mp camera with a rolling shutter that is claimed to be 1.5x the speed of the a9 is just too good. If that number is true the scan speed is about 1/225, which puts it just BARELY behind *other* cameras mechanical shutters, which tend to hit around 1/300 of a second. Now, of course, the a1 ALSO has a supremely fast mechanical shutter at 1/400 that will never end up being used...
I don't see Canon matching this particular spec ever, unless they buy the sensor from Sony.
p.3 #16 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
saxguy wrote:
Don't get me wrong - the Leica images are stunning. I just need a system where I don't have to worry about focus issues. Also, something that integrates with a flash, strobe - can use HSS, etc.
Yeah, that’s why I would only consider the M system from Leica. Everything else seems outside of their wheelhouse.
p.3 #19 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Michael Everet wrote:
Talk that few will buy an A1 because of the price seems a bit disingenuous on this forum. I understand that most of us, including me, will not because of the price. Yet a lot of people here, judging from postings, are willing to spend $12-13K for a lens. No criticism if you do -- if you can afford it more power to you. It's just that I think more people will buy this camera than the comments so far suggest.
Yes. I was out at the Reifel Bird Sanctuary in Delta near Vancouver a few years back and my dad and I met a guy with two 1 series Canon Bodies and, if I recall correctly, 400mm and 600mm lenses. My dad got talking to him and asked about his gear and lenses. He mentioned that he was a partner in an engineering firm and had been a bird watcher and photographer for most of his life. He said that he drove a Toyota (or maybe it was a Honda?) and that the other partners in his firm had the big Audi and BMW SUVs. As long as that remained the case, his wife didn't care about how much he spent on lenses.
There are quite a few people who, I think, make similar choices. As someone pricing out a kitchen renovation, I can tell you that you can spend 5X the cost of the A1 on a fridge if you'd like...
