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NissanPatrol wrote:
You are justifying to yourself spending the money 😄

True you can take real good bif pictures with the z7 and the z50 and sure that the canon r5 can take excellent bif pictures, but the question can the R5 have the same performance of the a9/ii, and can the canon r5 succeed in scoring the same number of keepers with eratic subjects?

That remains to be answered by real world trial.

But I am happy if you buy one 😄 at least I can get a trustworthy real world review


Yes I’m an expert at that



Jul 17, 2020 at 02:03 PM
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p.9 #2 · R5/6 lag/blackout


Don't know if this is real mechanical but I sure hope so.

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Jul 17, 2020 at 02:23 PM
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p.9 #3 · R5/6 lag/blackout


arbitrage wrote:
Yes I’m an expert at that


Me too. This is little like professional wrestling. One gets pummelled for 30 minutes and then has a miraculous recovery and wins the day.



Jul 17, 2020 at 02:33 PM
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p.9 #4 · R5/6 lag/blackout


Shutter sound of the R5. The mechanical shutter is loud compared to Sony cameras.




Jul 17, 2020 at 03:40 PM
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p.9 #5 · R5/6 lag/blackout


Some action shots from the R6




Jul 17, 2020 at 04:21 PM
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p.9 #6 · R5/6 lag/blackout


At the 1:50 mark the guys says it's f5.6 at 400mm.

Geoff Hui wrote:
Some action shots from the R6






Jul 17, 2020 at 05:17 PM
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p.9 #7 · R5/6 lag/blackout




Zenon Char wrote:
Don't know if this is real mechanical but I sure hope so.

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I couldn’t find anywhere in that video showing the EVF or LCD but I only scrubbed through it real fast on my phone. Everything I saw was either video footage or still images from the shoot. Is there a time stamp you saw the EVF feed at??



Jul 17, 2020 at 05:25 PM
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bobbytan wrote:
At the 1:50 mark the guys says it's f5.6 at 400mm.


It is if you set the camera to half stops. But either way the camera is likely rounding down at 1/2 stops and up at 1/3 stops. Most likely 400mm is truly around f/6 or so.



Jul 17, 2020 at 05:27 PM
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p.9 #9 · R5/6 lag/blackout


bobbytan wrote:
Shutter sound of the R5. The mechanical shutter is loud compared to Sony cameras.



Good. I want to scare off coyotes, etc and for what I'm about to spend I want people around me to say wow.



Jul 17, 2020 at 05:30 PM
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He didn't say anything about have to change the exposure compensation increments to 1/2 stop. Maybe it's f5.6 with the R6?

arbitrage wrote:
It is if you set the camera to half stops. But either way the camera is likely rounding down at 1/2 stops and up at 1/3 stops. Most likely 400mm is truly around f/6 or so.





Jul 17, 2020 at 05:31 PM
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bobbytan wrote:
He didn't say anything about have to change the exposure compensation increments to 1/2 stop. Maybe it's f5.6 with the R6?


Or more likely he is just regurgitating the Canon provided spec sheet as many early sponsored reviews were doing and never really tested like Cameralabs did. Regardless, every zoom in existence is cheating on both focal length and aperture so I can’t see it mattering at all. I don’t see why the R6 would make a difference?



Jul 17, 2020 at 05:42 PM
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Very responsive! I was very impressed with it. Feels much better in the hand and the af and tracking felt great! It made me excited to shoot with it. The joystick was very fast to change the af points also.
Can’t wait to get mine
kezeka wrote:
How responsive was the shutter? Did it feel delayed or like it lagged at all? Any other thoughts after having held it in hand?




Jul 17, 2020 at 06:05 PM
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Jonesy wrote:
Very responsive! I was very impressed with it. Feels much better in the hand and the af and tracking felt great! It made me excited to shoot with it. The joystick was very fast to change the af points also.
Can’t wait to get mine



Hopefully you can also use the LCD to move the AF point/s around. I didn't miss the joystick with the R. LCD is faster.



Jul 17, 2020 at 06:14 PM
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Zenon Char wrote:
Hopefully you can also use the LCD to move the AF point/s around. I didn't miss the joystick with the R. LCD is faster.

Yes that is still available as an option if you don’t want to use the joystick. The joystick has options to change how fast it reacts to a given movement which should be pretty slick. Would have loved to see the 1DXIII AF-ON button with sensor but I guess they had to save something for the R1X.



Jul 17, 2020 at 06:27 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
I don't recall seeing this video before even though it was 4 days ago.
At the 10:45 mark you can see his settings are ES, H+ (20FPS) and AI Servo. There is a blackout after the shot. But I think what this is is when you stop a burst you get that "blackout"...actually not really a blackout but just a stutter which I think is the camera coming out of the blackout free slideshow it does while you hold the shutter down and do a burst. Basically the 20FPS ES mode is blackout free with very fast frame insertion and then
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Geoff, I had a look at the 10:45 mark and that's not blackout, I figured out how to solve that problem when I was shooting RW blackbirds with my 1dx III in live-view... My biggest concern is how does it perform with EF lenses and distortion with electronic shutter. EF lenses are at the top of my list, should be for every wildlife / sports photographer. Image review is on, think default is 2 sec's... turn off in first menu tab under # 3. You probably have to do that with Sony or the last photo in the burst stays in your EVF... You can leave image review on but you would have to keep the back-button pushed down when you let go the shutter button to continue tracking your subject in real time but if you release both buttons the image will review on the screen for set amount of secs. I don't have the R5 or R6 but I'm almost positive that's the problem.... Those Canon testers need some training.... "joking"

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Jul 18, 2020 at 01:31 AM
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Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but in the video linked above at the 3:00 mark he does say, "All you see is a little white box...", in regards to what he sees when using the e-shutter.




Jul 18, 2020 at 01:37 AM
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p.9 #17 · R5/6 lag/blackout


Mike Jacks0n wrote:

Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but in the video linked above at the 3:00 mark he does say, "All you see is a little white box...", in regards to what he sees when using the e-shutter.



That's all you see, just the white rectangle blinking in E-shutter mode, same on the 1dx III.



Jul 18, 2020 at 01:44 AM
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p.9 #18 · R5/6 lag/blackout


Pius Sullivan wrote:
Geoff, I had a look at the 10:45 mark and that's not blackout, I figured out how to solve that problem when I was shooting RW blackbirds with my 1dx III in live-view... My biggest concern is how does it perform with EF lenses and distortion with electronic shutter. EF lenses are at the top of my list, should be for every wildlife / sports photographer. Image review is on, think default is 2 sec's... turn off in first menu tab under # 3. You probably have to do that with Sony or the last photo in the burst
...Show more

Good call...yes that makes sense...I forgot about that as I didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to leave that on....



Jul 18, 2020 at 07:19 AM
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p.9 #19 · R5/6 lag/blackout


arbitrage wrote:
I couldn’t find anywhere in that video showing the EVF or LCD but I only scrubbed through it real fast on my phone. Everything I saw was either video footage or still images from the shoot. Is there a time stamp you saw the EVF feed at??


I think you are correct.



Jul 18, 2020 at 07:57 AM
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p.9 #20 · R5/6 lag/blackout


Mike Jacks0n wrote:

Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but in the video linked above at the 3:00 mark he does say, "All you see is a little white box...", in regards to what he sees when using the e-shutter.



There have been several actual videos of the actual LCD showing no blackout and white box using E shutter so at this point I'm convinced. We just need to know if the EVF 120 fps or Smooth setting will do what it says.



Jul 18, 2020 at 08:00 AM
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