p.16 #1 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
I understand completely, it's a lot of money. But I can attest that there is nothing like my RX1M2, such great IQ from both the lens and the sensor in such a small and inconspicuous camera.
p.16 #3 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
peterv wrote:
I understand completely, it's a lot of money. But I can attest that there is nothing like my RX1M2, such great IQ from both the lens and the sensor in such a small and inconspicuous camera.
Totally agree, now that I have (a heavily) used one.
The lens isn't perfect, but it renders beautifully (rendering really stands out) and is very sharp centrally at F/2. The body isn't perfect, but it's tiny, light, and easy to use.
My photography/non-photography friends alike always seem to comment on how amazing the thing is when I had it over for them to use.
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I also cannot imagine spending $3,300 on a new one. Even $2000 used feels high, given the age/tech/potential issues/cost to repair/longevity (or lack) of Sony support for this (from hardware to firmware).
But, it's a bit like an A7rII bolted to an amazing lens (that we cannot get for the A7rII), at competitive used prices.
I'd love a v3 version @ 60-70MP, faster AF, maybe non-pop-up EVF and pop-up flash, and evolutionary ergonomic improvements (dial/button weight). That would be worth the upgrade.
I'm more interested in seeing how the Zeiss body evolves too. Right now it's a non-starter for me. But FF + fixed lens is a really compelling concept for certain uses-- so I'm happy to see more options floating around.
p.16 #4 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
justruss wrote:
I also cannot imagine spending $3,300 on a new one. Even $2000 used feels high...
I think it will go down to $2000 NEW if the line gets killed. I think I'll pick one up then.
That Zeiss is way too big, so it's losing its purpose. Leica Q looks nice, but I have a couple of amazing
Leica 28mm lenses so it doesn't bring much in my case. RX1R II has a very unique lens
in addition to being so small.
p.16 #6 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
It looks like Adobe is no longer allowing "RAW editing" with their Lightroom CC for mobile app for free.
Now, a user needs to login with their Adobe Subscription or only use the mobile app for a 30-day trial...In the past, the LR CC for mobile app was offered free of charge with only a few disabled options (like syncing for example)
It's very likely that the new ZX1 will require an Adobe subscription for RAW editing. Basically it will be a camera that requires subscription for the "Edit" feature to become activated.
Zeiss is being very quiet about the ZX1...any other news?
p.16 #7 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
It's very likely that the new ZX1 will require an Adobe subscription for RAW editing. Basically it will be a camera that requires subscription for the "Edit" feature to become activated.
p.16 #11 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Fred Miranda wrote:
I just used Camrote to transfer a ARW file to Snapseed and it worked quite well.
I already can transfer jpegs to my phone and edit with Snapseed and then onto the net. Don't require raws for net display.
I don't like the intermediate step of transferring to my phone and then onto the net. Adds no value and takes time. Much rather do it all from the camera.
p.16 #12 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
In theory, Sony should be be able to create an app and wireless functionality with a seamless connection between phone and camera where every picture is automatically transferred to the phone after it's taken in raw and with location information, but the actual implementation is far worse than that. For example, the GPS tagging feature only works intermittently unless I proactively remember to turn it on. It's been consistently faster for me to just plug the camera into my computer or the sd card into a reader rather than deal with wireless transfer.
An all-in-one solution in practice would be far superior to the current state of the art for camera to phone wireless transfer. The 4.3in screen isn't a real deal breaker either as early smartphones had a screen that size and should be plenty large for light editing.
The biggest issues would be if the sensor cannot match the performance of the lens (which seems like that's currently the case based on the ray Larose blog I shared earlier in this thread) and if the Lightroom integration isn't seamless or there are workflow issues in camera (unclear right now).
p.16 #14 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
I was in Fixation (professional sales and camera repair outlet in London) the other day talking to one of the members of the sales staff who said that there was quite a bit of interest from Pro’s in this camera because of the onboard editing and transfer capabilities (plus the internal storage).
p.16 #15 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
"It’s definitely meatier than the Sony A7R II as well." This is the main reason for me this camera is a fail. I have no need for a larger fixed lens camera. Ideally besides an rx1riii I would like Sony to put a FF sensor in a smaller a6500 type body. Now that would get my attention
p.16 #16 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
tzhang4284 wrote:
In theory, Sony should be be able to create an app and wireless functionality with a seamless connection between phone and camera where every picture is automatically transferred to the phone after it's taken in raw and with location information, but the actual implementation is far worse than that. For example, the GPS tagging feature only works intermittently unless I proactively remember to turn it on. It's been consistently faster for me to just plug the camera into my computer or the sd card into a reader rather than deal with wireless transfer.
An all-in-one solution in practice would be far superior to the current state of the art for camera to phone wireless transfer. The 4.3in screen isn't a real deal breaker either as early smartphones had a screen that size and should be plenty large for light editing.
The biggest issues would be if the sensor cannot match the performance of the lens (which seems like that's currently the case based on the ray Larose blog I shared earlier in this thread) and if the Lightroom integration isn't seamless or there are workflow issues in camera (unclear right now)....Show more →
Ideally the camera should also support cellular data (4G LTE) and GPS. The problem is that we are dealing with images and the monthly charge would probably be high...
Currently for the iPad 4G LTE with 5GB data transfer, the cost is about $50/month. (ATT, Spring, Verizon and T-mobile). Not sure about other countries.
Garmin just released its first GPS smartwatch with 4G LTE connectivity.
"A Verizon connected device plan is required to use the built-in safety features, texting, and music downloads. Visit the Verizon website for plan details. Pricing for the Verizon-connected vívoactive 3 Music will be announced with availability in Q1 2019."
p.16 #17 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
I have no idea and am curious as to how many potential purchasers of this camera care about in camera editing and connectivity as opposed to just the IQ and usability of this camera.
p.16 #18 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Fred Miranda wrote:
Ideally the camera should also support cellular data (4G LTE) and GPS. The problem is that we are dealing with images and the monthly charge would probably be high...
Currently for the iPad 4G LTE with 5GB data transfer, the cost is about $50/month. (ATT, Spring, Verizon and T-mobile). Not sure about other countries.
Garmin just released its first GPS smartwatch with 4G LTE connectivity.
"A Verizon connected device plan is required to use the built-in safety features, texting, and music downloads. Visit the Verizon website for plan details. Pricing for the Verizon-connected vívoactive 3 Music will be announced with availability in Q1 2019."...Show more →
I don't think the data costs will actually be that high unless you're transferring a lot of raw files and you need to do it over the cellular network - that's a 1% of the potential user problem in my opinion. More realistically, you're posting jpegs finished in camera and keeping the raw files in camera (since the ZX1 has 512 gb of storage) until you hit wifi and then you can back it all up to the cloud. With the ZX1, the easiest solution would be to tether it to your smartphone if it has hotspot capability (most modern cell phones do and if you already have an unlimited plan).
p.16 #19 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Jeff Kott wrote:
I have no idea and am curious as to how many potential purchasers of this camera care about in camera editing and connectivity as opposed to just the IQ and usability of this camera.
Not many rich enthusiasts are trying to go to a fixed lens system and need to immediately post to social media. But hey, what do I know. My biggest concern with all of this in camera editing and the guys above clamoring for 4G cell data is how god awful the battery life will be. We already know the MILCs eat juice unlike any camera before them, so what could possibly go wrong with editing in camera and 4G?
