The "X" marks the point on the sales slip where you sign your name for the credit card purchase and then go home to explain to your wife why you just spent £6000 on a camera "when the other one was perfectly good enough"...
The X is the 22mp MF body I've heard rumours of. uses canon's current lenses - you take the 16mp 1Ds sensor and just make it square to fit the light circle the lens throws.
also expect a 3000D for $500 - perhaps it's the 350 replacement, or there is a 350D replacement priced at $1000 (bigger LCD, perhaps DiGiC3, but most likely not)
price cut on 30D.
5D replacement - either digic3 and weather sealling or very similar and cheaper.
Think about it like this - If you were canon and had to sell against the new Sony, Oly stuff and Nikon, what products would you bring out?
- MF field is ripe if you want to stay high end and if canon does a square sensor and 22mp w/ existing lenses they'll take that market big time.
-canon once the leader in the entry-level dSLR is no longer competetive in that market. So do you try and be a full market company, bring in newbies to your 'system' or figure to remain 'high end' luxury brand if you will, and let teh low end go to the competetion?
-IMO, nikon has some nicely featured bodies and canon should be more competitive with them in a price-feature way. The D80 is less than the 30D bur more than the 350, the D200 is more than the 30D but less than the 5D or 1Dn
-and to keep your existing folks happy and moving on up, you need to keep improving your current cameras without cannabilizing yourself from below.
prof_fate wrote:
The X is the 22mp MF body I've heard rumours of. uses canon's current lenses - you take the 16mp 1Ds sensor and just make it square to fit the light circle the lens throws.
You know, I've been wondering why they haven't done this and suggested it quite some time ago, but then someone pointed out that the prism and mirror would have to drastically change because it's made for the 35mm format. I would absolutely love to see a square format dSLR, with of course the ability to crop horizontal and vertical in standard 35mm format, either in camera or in software, Canon would have guide lines in horizontal and vertical showing what that frame is in the viewfinder...
Now that might be something I would be very interested in!
You can't just "square out the sensor". The sides would need to be shortened. Draw a circle and try it. Was someone asking for a square sensor? No. How about a round sensor with a configurable image area.
The square senser would also not necessarily work with existing lenses, especially the newest 24-105 f4 design, which has a rectangular baffle in the back.
DaveMart wrote:
Canon naming systems are not subject to rational analysis - just the same myh 'guess' would be that the 'legend' referes to the 50/1.2, as apparently they used to produce some old 50mm lens which gloried under that name, and the 'X' is for the 1 series replacement - I remember posting about the next 1 series camera, and those who might have used prototypes said it would not be called the 1DsIII - perhaps the '1Dx'? Canon could not give a toss about someone else having used their camera names - look at the 5D
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DaveMart
I don't think Canon's going to bother with marketing gimmicks for a standard L lens. Unless they have nothing else and are trying to lull us to sleep during photokina
pmp6 wrote:
The square senser would also not necessarily work with existing lenses, especially the newest 24-105 f4 design, which has a rectangular baffle in the back.
The camera could only offer crops the lens could support?
I'll stake a "far out" claim that it's not an SLR. It's a range finder/EVF that will take EF lenses and also new wide lenses that don't retrofocus. (O.K. angle of light may become more of a problem than retrofocus. But maybe they found a solution to that.)
If what we heard here is true, the 350XT's are to be pushed out the door.
canon has no $500 body and everyone else does (almost everyone)
Xmas is coming and they'll sell a boatload or 2 of them.
specs...6 or 8Mp, plastic, no RAW, perhaps no AvTvM either. more pic scenes and pic styles.
prof_fate wrote:
Think about it like this - If you were canon and had to sell against the new Sony, Oly stuff and Nikon, what products would you bring out?
- MF field is ripe if you want to stay high end and if canon does a square sensor and 22mp w/ existing lenses they'll take that market big time.
-canon once the leader in the entry-level dSLR is no longer competetive in that market. So do you try and be a full market company, bring in newbies to your 'system' or figure to remain 'high end' luxury brand if you will, and let teh low end go to the competetion?
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There's no way Canon would give up the entry-level. Simply put when a person buys their first camera they would likely in time buy a few lenses to compliment it. Should they decide they want to go to the next level they would likely go to another camera made by the same company that they could use their existing lenses with. If Canon left the entry level d'slr people would buy Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Pentax etc, when they wanted to go to the next level they wouldn't throw that equipment away and buy a Canon unless the technology was so compelling to switch. Not likely for the average person.
Edited by burningheart on Aug 21, 2006 at 03:26 PM GMT
prof_fate wrote:
Think about it like this - If you were canon and had to sell against the new Sony, Oly stuff and Nikon, what products would you bring out?
- MF field is ripe if you want to stay high end and if canon does a square sensor and 22mp w/ existing lenses they'll take that market big time.
You're dreaming. This makes absolutely no sense since the point of selling bodies is to sell lenses, and Canon has no MF lenses - and I doubt they want to go through the major R&D effort to go that route.
prof_fate wrote:
-canon once the leader in the entry-level dSLR is no longer competetive in that market. So do you try and be a full market company, bring in newbies to your 'system' or figure to remain 'high end' luxury brand if you will, and let teh low end go to the competetion?
Why would they let the low end go? To stay competitive, Canon just needs to drop the price of their cameras, which Canon is better equipped to do than any of the manufacturers since they have the volume. If you're going to say things like "Canon is no-longer competitive in the low-end market" you should offer some sort of rationale for that statement, since it's highly questionable in my opinion.
Small earthquake in Chile- none dead
According to two or three posters here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=19678723
One new camera - Xti 10MP 3pfs sensor cleaning
Two lenses - 50/1.2 and 70-200/4 IS
There will be a lot of disappointed potential 1DsIII customers if this is right!
Regards,
DaveMart
