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p.104 #1 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Every week there is someone claiming Canon will be announcing new bodies that week If you want to buy a new camera but are afraid of something new coming out soon, then you will never buy that new toy.


Oct 04, 2006 at 04:34 PM
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p.104 #2 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


sapro wrote:
Every week there is someone claiming Canon will be announcing new bodies that week If you want to buy a new camera but are afraid of something new coming out soon, then you will never buy that new toy.


Agreed, but I would hate to buy a new 1Ds2 only to find it replaced the next month. Making such an investment does, in my opinion, require some thought of where your purchase fits into the life cycle. If I was a P&S shooter, I wouldn't care less as I would know full well that it was likely to get replaced the following week, not even the following quarter!

I want a full frame body to pair with my 1D2N, part backup, partly for studio work which I am starting to do more of. After explaining this, even Canon CPS in the UK advised me to wait till the beginning of next year if I wasn't in urgent need of it. Makes sense to me, I only wish they had told me the reason why I should wait!



Oct 04, 2006 at 05:55 PM
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p.104 #3 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


The new stuff ain't coming out till PMA, end of February; after that, who knows.

Canon's history is to announce about a week before events like PMA.

Hope that helps.



Oct 04, 2006 at 06:19 PM
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p.104 #4 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Heres my little story

I have been lusting after a 1D2 since they were announced. I waited and waited till they became more affordable.

I decided this summer might be time to get one. But of course everyone thought there would be a new pro body at Photokina, and many people in my position chose to wait. I saw a 4k actuation 1D2 for a nice price and jumped on it.

Just in the 2 months since I bought it, I have so many images that make me very happy... and if I had decided to wait, I would still be waiting indeed.

Just find what you want for a decent price, and go for it. Dont wait for the next best thing. You can buy it down the road anyways if you really need it.



Oct 04, 2006 at 06:48 PM
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p.104 #5 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I heard Canon is releasing a new camera next week. It will incorporate the sensor from the 1Ds Mk2 into a body like the 1D Mk2n (same build quality, autofocus and frame rate), but it will be priced around $500.

I have my name on the waiting list.



Oct 04, 2006 at 07:50 PM
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p.104 #6 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


timbop wrote: "Brand affinity is not like religion..."

! H ! E ! R ! E ! T ! I ! C !


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Oct 04, 2006 at 07:58 PM
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p.104 #7 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I've also heard that 3D is coming out soon


Oct 04, 2006 at 08:46 PM
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p.104 #8 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


This is starting to sound like the rumor thread about canon changing to a foveon sensor and a non EOS mount system for the pro cameras to be coming at the PMA? Of course that would drive the prices down like the FD mount lenses and bodies? Mike


Oct 04, 2006 at 09:45 PM
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p.104 #9 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Me_XMan wrote:
I've also heard that 3D is coming out soon


The features of 3D have been discussed so many times and the camera was supposed to be introduced "soon" for at least 3 years now. It almost seems old now and we should wait for the upgrade... 4D?



Oct 04, 2006 at 09:54 PM
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p.104 #10 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


4D is a downgrade from 3D.

I would love for this to be true, but announcing something 2 weeks after the biggest camera show in the world seems bizarre. Maybe if there were some enormous sporting event coming up, but alas it seems like another 5 month wait until PMA for further announcements.

Still stranger things have happened.



Oct 04, 2006 at 10:09 PM
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p.104 #11 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I agree it sounds bizarre, but truth be told, I've heard the same thing, but didn't hear details thanks to the wonders of Non-Disclosure Agreements - only an approximate release date.

But hey, I won't be offended if no one believes me...everyone says they know something, yadda yadda. Time will tell



Oct 04, 2006 at 11:48 PM
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p.104 #12 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


This is now the unoffical POST photokina rumor thread...


Oct 05, 2006 at 12:06 AM
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p.104 #13 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I've heared that the EOS 0D will be comming out tomorrow and will be Fullframe, 15 f/ps, Water tight body, and will cost less then the 400D!

Seriously though, Don't you think its a little early to start up the next rumour mill??



Oct 05, 2006 at 12:28 AM
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p.104 #14 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


VanIsle wrote:
Heres my little story

I have been lusting after a 1D2 since they were announced. I waited and waited till they became more affordable.

I decided this summer might be time to get one. But of course everyone thought there would be a new pro body at Photokina, and many people in my position chose to wait. I saw a 4k actuation 1D2 for a nice price and jumped on it.

Just in the 2 months since I bought it, I have so many images that make me very happy... and if I had decided to wait, I would still be
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I fully agree. The value of these tools is exactly what you can do with them NOW. Especially DSLR bodies are not investments, but expenses. That said, of course you shouldn't buy any other Canon DSLR than 400D just now, if you can manage with your current body.

Within next X months Canon will certainly introduce a follower to 1Ds2. They can't increase the price very much, so it will cause major downwards pressure to the retail value of second-hand 1DsII bodies.

After another Y months Canon will likely introduce a follower to 1D2N, which probably matches or exceeds the current 1Ds2 in almost all aspects, but is priced competitively against Nikon D2whatever. That will further drive down the retail prices of current 1Ds2.

It is not likely for Canon to introduce both new pro bodies simultaneously, because that would cause a very steep drop in the retail value of current 1Ds2.



Oct 05, 2006 at 09:41 AM
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I think given the age of the 1 series it's natural for people to speculate about replacements. I think talk of 5D and 30D replacements is a bit silly though.

Most seem to think there will only be one 1 series, but I'd personally prefer a 1D III and 1Ds III as separate lines, with the 1D III still be 1.3x crop but now with 20D pixel density. I think Canon needs to offer an alternative to the D2X and I think that role is better suited to a 1D III not a FF 1Ds III. Of course if Canon could introduce a 22MP FF, with 8fps @ $5K that would change things. If they do unify the 1 series, then I can't see them charging $8K while giving current 1D II owners no alternative. They would then have to introduce a high performance model like a 3D to compensate IMO.



Oct 05, 2006 at 06:36 PM
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p.104 #16 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Guys, the Next 1Ds is ready and has been ready for a couple of months.

Canon just didnt think it was necesary to release it now due to lack of competition in the high end and decided it was best to stretch the 1Ds mk2's lifecycle just a wee bit longer. Cant really blame them. It wouldve been cool to have at least an upgraded n model with a larger lcd.

I dont know if they are going to call the New 1Ds the mk3 but it has been tested and looks just like a 1Dmk2n. Out in the field its really imposible to tell the difference.

Regarding the 3D I have no clue. I know Canon has been working on another model based on the 5D but I have no clue on specs etc.

I have no idea on pricing on the new 1Ds but I dont expect any changes since again, Canon has no competition at all from any DSLR mfg.in the high end. At least at the moment. nikon will take a good long while to release a replacement for the D2x and doubt it will be a full frame model. If and when the D3x is released it will probably be close to 16mp if that.

Most of the changes will come in the low end of the market where competition is fierce (now with pentax, sony, samsung in the mix) and product cycles are much shorter because of that. Hence, Canon released the 400D now.



Oct 07, 2006 at 04:50 PM
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p.104 #17 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


After reading around a little(ok,a lot) on Nikon Cafe and such, ive decided, Canon REALLY needs a D200 type camera. We need basically a 5D with a 1.3x crop. And it will be the 3D, and i want one NOW!


Oct 08, 2006 at 02:32 PM
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FYI, Canon's management, in several public interviews has stated for the record, there's not going be a 3D, they're going have a two sensor size pyramid (1.6 and FF) and they'll combine the 1D and 1Ds body styles into one body. I believe them as upper management, when making public statements, is pretty good keeping true to their public comments.

I think we'll be seeing this combining come PMA, end of February next year.



Oct 08, 2006 at 02:47 PM
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p.104 #19 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


They do need a camera in the 1700 rang, though. The 30D is too little for many but the 5D is too much or they do not want FF


Oct 08, 2006 at 02:57 PM
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I see no need for 1.3x crop sensors, honestly. I'd much rather have that 1dIII/1dsIII combo cam.


Oct 08, 2006 at 02:57 PM
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