DaveMart wrote:
According to two or three posters here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=19678723
One new camera - Xti 10MP 3pfs sensor cleaning
Two lenses - 50/1.2 and 70-200/4 IS
There will be a lot of disappointed potential 1DsIII customers if this is right!
Regards,
DaveMart
Looks like just another person posting a rumor/opinion/guess. A dime a dozen.
Somebody is going to be right, it's just a matter of who - there are so many speculations that one is bound to be correct and that person will brag forever about inside knowledge or some special telepathic ability.
And keep in mind that there is no reason to think that Canon must announce everything Thursday. I think it likely that they make one announcement this week but another at Photokina.
DaveMart wrote:
Small earthquake in Chile- none dead
According to two or three posters here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=19678723
One new camera - Xti 10MP 3pfs sensor cleaning
Two lenses - 50/1.2 and 70-200/4 IS
There will be a lot of disappointed potential 1DsIII customers if this is right!
Regards,
DaveMart
that might be possible...i wonder what happened to the xti's 7fps and 21 AF points?
I'm hoping the 50mm 1.2 comes out, that would be terrific (as long as it wasn't too expensive, which shouldn't be hard considering that it's only like a 1/3 of a stop faster than the 50mm 1.4, which is around $320). the 70-200f4 IS seems pointless to me, as one of the guys on dpreview said...canon already has tons of lenses in that range.
i do hope a 1dsIII comes out though....it would lower the price of 1dsII's, so that would be good.
canon might be waiting until nikon announces their new flagship model...
dcmiller wrote:
You can't just "square out the sensor". The sides would need to be shortened. Draw a circle and try it. Was someone asking for a square sensor? No. How about a round sensor with a configurable image area.
Very good point, I thought there were more reasons beyond the prism and this is exactly it, the geometry just doesn't work out for a square sensor and existing lenses...
For what it's worth, my local camera shop has already "sold" an 18-200 IS. I asked if it had been confirmed by Canon, they said no. They did say that the gentleman that bought it had confirmation from somewhere.. Take it with a grain of salt, but who knows.
On a side note- earlier in the thread, someone was debating the importance of the flagship model in Canon's lineup. They mentioned something along the lines of it being irrelivant to the entry-level, first-time dSLR buyer.
I think the perception of the entire company is based, in part, on their flagship model. If Canon is percieved as whopping Nikon's a$$ in the high-end market, then perhaps they are whopping it across the board. Canon had full-frame and dramatically higher resolution WAY before Nikon even addressed the technology. It would seem only logical that the advanced technology that Canon posseses would trickle down to the consumer level products at a much faster rate than Nikon is capable of acheiving. Certainly there is a portion of first-time buyers who are capable of making such a deduction.
Unfortunately, if there is only one camera, a 10mp rebel seems the most likely. Especially if Canon is concerned about a Nikon pixel race at the low end. This would also explain why Nikon would announce early, making a buzz ahead of Canon. Of course, Canon will actually deliver a significant number of new cameras in Sept. While Nikon will deliver one or two in Sept. and then a few more for Christmas......
thebeginning wrote:
I'm hoping the 50mm 1.2 comes out, that would be terrific (as long as it wasn't too expensive, which shouldn't be hard considering that it's only like a 1/3 of a stop faster than the 50mm 1.4, which is around $320).
It's more than just that, they are going to use "L" series glass just like the 85mm f/1.2 with aspherical elements, super UD glass, super spectra coating, 9 blade circular aperture, faster AF, etc. The body of the lens will be much stronger (and heavier) as well, given all this it will be considerably more expensive than the current 50mm f/1.4.
I would love to see it around $1000, but I doubt that will happen (of course this is all speculation because it hasn't even been announced, this could all just be wishful thinking). On a 1.3x body it will be a 65mm f/1.2 and on a 1.6x body it will be an 80mm f/1.2, really making this the perfect portrait lens for these bodies.
Sam Bennett wrote:
If you're going to say things like "Canon is no-longer competitive in the low-end market" you should offer some sort of rationale for that statement, since it's highly questionable in my opinion.
what makes the market for this? Us here? no, it's the first time dSLR buyer or perhaps ones converting from film. I know a few hobbyists that have film rebels and that wonderful (sic) 35-80 lens, and some, only some, have bought a tele lens. Now these folks have digital p&s - you know they do.
So the film folks would lean toward canon, but almost certainly would get the kit lens, so they exisitng lens inventory is practically nil. The rest, the p&s crowd wanting to move up have no lens investment.
So if you're a consumer wiht a clean slate, and go looking at a big box retailer or even a Ritz type store, what are you faced with? (from bestbuy.com)
Rebel XT w/ kit lens $760
Oly eVolt 500 w/ two lenses for $769
Pentax K100D (ritz price) $699
Nikon D50 for $665
The Rebel is effectively the most expensive camera, and possibly the oldest.
For features or someone wanting to spend a bit more, the Sony Alpha for $999 has a feature list that is impressive - sensor cleaning, built in IS and 10Mp and lots of lenses to choose from.
From my participation in other forums rest assured that an upgrade path is not much of a priority in the consumers mind, so L glass or a future 5D etc is not a factor in why they get a 350D over a D50 or K100.
I don't have sales figures, but I bet Nikon is selling more D50s than canon is selling 350's.
dcmiller wrote:
Unfortunately, if there is only one camera, a 10mp rebel seems the most likely. Especially if Canon is concerned about a Nikon pixel race at the low end. This would also explain why Nikon would announce early, making a buzz ahead of Canon. Of course, Canon will actually deliver a significant number of new cameras in Sept. While Nikon will deliver one or two in Sept. and then a few more for Christmas......
A 10MP rebel would hurt 30D sales. Yes I know it isn't all about the MP's but if everything else is the same, most people would prefer the higher pixel count. I certainly do. Maybe there will be a new model between the 30D and the 5D?
An aquaitance of mine just bought a 350XT, with no input from me. I need to ask him why he chose it...but obviously, some are selling.
A new entry level DSLR based on the 350XT, but priced at around $500, makes a lot of sense.
I also believe that could replace the existing 350XT with a 10MP sensor without seriously impacting the 30D market...at least not for very long, if they come out with a 10MP sensor in the 30D's market slot at the begining of the year.
That is rather large for the 70-200. The filter size is 77mm and it's all glass... Maybe that will avoid the increased vignetting the 2.8 IS suffers from.
Greg Matty wrote:
A 10MP rebel would hurt 30D sales. Yes I know it isn't all about the MP's but if everything else is the same, most people would prefer the higher pixel count. I certainly do. Maybe there will be a new model between the 30D and the 5D?
Greg
Would it really? Seems to me canon doesn't really need to worry about being in competition with itself, it's a model that worked for GM for a long time. Either way they make a sale, I would still choose a 30D over an XTi for the higher frame rate, ISO3200, and metal body.
Anyway, they also don't need to come up with a 3000D - forget the R&D and just cut the prices of the 350. Knocking $100 off the price puts it right in line with the D50, Oly, and pentax *ist - with an 8MP sensor for the naive consumer. They did a similar thing last year when they kept the 300D in production for a while after the 350 was rolled out, as well as the 20D earlier this year.
timbop wrote:
Would it really? Seems to me canon doesn't really need to worry about being in competition with itself, it's a model that worked for GM for a long time. Either way they make a sale, I would still choose a 30D over an XTi for the higher frame rate, ISO3200, and metal body.
Anyway, they also don't need to come up with a 3000D - forget the R&D and just cut the prices of the 350. Knocking $100 off the price puts it right in line with the D50, Oly, and pentax *ist - with an 8MP sensor for the naive consumer. They did a similar thing last year when they kept the 300D in production for a while after the 350 was rolled out, as well as the 20D earlier this year....Show more →
What if a XDX with an 10-11 MP 1.6 cropped sensor, improved features set and body with a street price of $1,700 debuted? Do you think it would sell? I like crop factor and MP's for wildlife photography but don't like the D2X's $4,500 price.
By applying Hue/Saturation to the original photo from Canon, the glass will be tinted green which is also identical to the fake one. I have just tested it with PS!
