Hope the 35 1.8 rumor is true. Would make sense to compete with the Sigma version. Hmmm Canon color, USM, focus, mmmmmmm. The 70-200 4L IS would be pretty sweet too.
*100-400 f/3.5-4.5 L IS and no Push pull zoom
*100-300 f/4 L IS
*50 f/2 1:1 Macro USM
*TS-E 17
*8mm linear Fisheye lens
*45-130 f/2.8 IS L (Equivalent to around 70-200 on APS-C bodies)
*17-70 f/4 L (With or without IS) which would be a great walkabout lens to go with the 70-200 f/4 L.
*100 f/2.8 macro IS
*Updated Macro ring flash/twin lite with ETTL II
What we most likely will see:
*EOS 1Ds Mk2n - Bigger LCD, Picture styles, Print button!?
*EOS 450D - Updated 350D, New badge.
*EOS 3000D?
*A few new EF-S lenses
*Mayby a couple of new L's, I rekon a zoom and a prime.
Thats a nice list though the TSE won't happen and the 50/2.0 macro will never sell.
An IS version of the 400/5.6 is a very noticeable omission from Canons range and I seriously believe the market is there for the reintroduction of a 200/1.8.
Agreed on the likely though. I think the updated 350D will be a big step though, simply because of the strength of the competition and the potential damage of not having the best introductory body to the range. I hope the EF-S range is expanded to cement its position in the range if nothing else. I think the 1Ds2n will be a 1Ds3 and while keeping the same sensor, will have an enhanced spec all round and yet a much lower price. Canon MUST bite the bullet if we are to accept they genuinely believe FF is the future. If its expensive then it remains obvious that to Canon, FF remains a low volume, high profit niche format.
KFG1 wrote:
If the 400L /5.6 IS arrives it is overdue and will sell like crazy. The 35 /1.8, why is what I'm asking if it's true? The 35L /1.4 is fantastic, but does it make the 35 /2.0 look so bad we need a 35 /1.8? The rumored 50L /1.2 seems likely and very wanted, I'll buy one ASAP if it shows up Merged 1D possible, but at the rumored price it seems to be alienating many potential 1DMkll owners.Maybe two versions will arrive but have similair builts to lower manufacturing costs. Maybe,one aimed at sports / action shooters and one at the high end market. And again the 3D will fail to show light of day, despite the fact that alot of us want it. ...Show more →
Yes we need a 35 f/1.8. Why? Because it's one of the old clunkers with cheap build and coffee grinder AF. Time to replace it and I'd like to see a 35 f/1.8 with USM that was pretty good wide open and very sharp from f/2.8. This should be the first in a long line of ancient UWA/WA primes Canon needs to update. Next should be the 50 f/1.8.
Canon has two options if it merges the 1 series: drop the price big time to near D2Xs levels to stop alienating 1D II owners they expect to upgrade. It's ridculous to expect all of them to fork out $8K for a new camera.
Or if the price is high fill the yawning chasm with a high specced 1.3x crop camera, essentially a detuned 1D II with 20D pixel density in a 5D sized body. They could release a faster sealed 5D, but pixel density is too low and AF performance needs improving. Too soon for a 5D upgrade.
Sprout Crumble wrote:
the 50/2.0 macro will never sell.
Why not? The current 50mm macro is still popular and is a fantastic lens! Its long over due for a upgrade though, Making it half a stop faster, adding a USM and making it 1:1 instead of 1:2 would make it a very popular lens for those shooting Full frame or APS-H cameras and find the 100mm macro to long.
It would also make a great "Normal" lens on a full framed camera and a nice low light lens!
EOS20 wrote:
Why not? The current 50mm macro is still popular and is a fantastic lens! Its long over due for a upgrade though, Making it half a stop faster, adding a USM and making it 1:1 instead of 1:2 would make it a very popular lens for those shooting Full frame or APS-H cameras and find the 100mm macro to long.
It would also make a great "Normal" lens on a full framed camera and a nice low light lens!
No need for the 50 f/1.8 then, but a 50 f/2 macro will be much larger, heavier and dearer than a standard 50 f/2. Making it 1:1 would make it even longer as the rear element has to move further from the sensor.
*EOS 1Ds Mk2n - Bigger LCD, Picture styles, Print button!?
*EOS 450D - Updated 350D, New badge.
*EOS 3000D?
*A few new EF-S lenses
*Mayby a couple of new L's, I rekon a zoom and a prime.
Looks like someone who is under NDA already told or hinted to you about the upcoming new products; some of which will be announced on Aug 24 and the rest 2-3 days before Photokina itself.
Regarding the sensor on the new 1DS MKIIN / 1Ds MK III:
Is it generally expected that the sensor on the new 1Ds would at least be comparable tothe 5D in terms of ISO noise performance despite climbing to 18MP/22PM pixels?
I work for a Canon dealer and we have been instructed to clear all 350D's because a top secret replacement is due for arrival. That is straight from our buying group.
mholdef wrote:
Regarding the sensor on the new 1DS MKIIN / 1Ds MK III:
Is it generally expected that the sensor on the new 1Ds would at least be comparable tothe 5D in terms of ISO noise performance despite climbing to 18MP/22PM pixels?
mholdef wrote:
Regarding the sensor on the new 1DS MKIIN / 1Ds MK III:
Is it generally expected that the sensor on the new 1Ds would at least be comparable tothe 5D in terms of ISO noise performance despite climbing to 18MP/22PM pixels?
Expectations and reality are often two very different things. The 30D is a prime example.
If the low noise of the 5D sensor is a function of the pixel density, putting in even more pixels than the 1Ds2 has now is not going to make it any less noisy, without a major improvement in technology. So, if Canon did release a 22MP 1Ds3, and there is more noise than the 5D, will every one be happy (because of more MP) or bash it (because of the noise) You can't have it both ways!
Yet again, just like the 5D and 30D, I don't see how Canon can release a new product and make every one happy. Some one here will dismiss it as useless, pointless, disapointing etc etc, while others says it's the best camera since time began. They simply cannot win!
More Mp, wider DR, higher noise suppression....what a techno-geek crowd ! (I wonder how many are really doing large prints )
I'd like to see some common-sense basics.....like real good human interface engineering of a new 1 series body. It has been done well elsewhere within Canon, thus it should be rather easy:
* reduce the camera weight/size.
* get the joystick for AF point selection (An X-Y type. The diagonal selection does not work too well on the existing one.)
* reduce the number of LCD displays and streamline the info contents-presentation on them.
* give all those little buttons placed all over the camera, and two button actuations in particular, a kick in the **s. That design of controls has always sucked and is getting really tired.
* make personal functions on-camera-adjustable.
* mark the AF points display squares to actually correspond to the AF sensor size (sensitivity boundary)
And more......
Edited by handheld on Aug 14, 2006 at 10:26 AM GMT
EOS20 wrote:
Why not? The current 50mm macro is still popular and is a fantastic lens! Its long over due for a upgrade though, Making it half a stop faster, adding a USM and making it 1:1 instead of 1:2 would make it a very popular lens for those shooting Full frame or APS-H cameras and find the 100mm macro to long.
It would also make a great "Normal" lens on a full framed camera and a nice low light lens!
all the above and more is already true of the ef-s 60mm macro that was just recently released. great lens. certainly lessens the liklihood that we'd see any significant 50mm macro changes.
How about killing 2 birds with one stone and making the 1Ds mkIII with a removeable grip? That might shut up the 3D crowd plus making it as much a icon as the 1V was if they up the FPS.
Sprout Crumble wrote:
I hope the EF-S range is expanded to cement its position in the range if nothing else. I think the 1Ds2n will be a 1Ds3 and while keeping the same sensor, will have an enhanced spec all round and yet a much lower price. Canon MUST bite the bullet if we are to accept they genuinely believe FF is the future. If its expensive then it remains obvious that to Canon, FF remains a low volume, high profit niche format.
these are almost contradictory, yes? the more canon puts into the ef-s line, the greater commitment they have to providing an upgrade path within the prosumer line. and FF will never be cost competitive with 1.6 cropped sensors, if only because of the cost of fabbing them (the lower yield).
Merged 1D possible, but at the rumored price it seems to be alienating many potential 1DMkll owners.Maybe two versions will arrive but have similair builts to lower manufacturing costs. Maybe,one aimed at sports / action shooters and one
You can't have it both ways!