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AFAIK, SL3-P has 819 focus points, while S1rII has 779. It seems that the PDAF pixel layout is different.

SL3-P also has dedicated Content Credentials hardware.


More differences that show it is not just a rebranding. Thanks for contributing.



Jul 07, 2026 at 04:58 AM
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Models from other brands that are so closely matched, yet cost half or double the price of their respective competitor? Frankly, I can't think of any examples.


I am not qualified to make this as a STATEMENT, so accept it as a question ... although, it was a discussion point I had with a different mfr from Germany.

The wage(s) paid to German employees is on a different economy. Mfr's from differing brands, that use the same economy for (i.e. each from Japan, etc.) mfr are more likely to be much closer in mfr costs. So, where Leica mfr's in Germany and pays wages on their scale, does that difference in the country's economy ... and, Leica's ethos about wages to their employees ... contribute to the price variance that does not seem as significant among the grouping of mfr's from other companies / countries.

In some regard, it seems to me that paying the premium is a means of paying the employees a different wage from other countries. My discussion with the other German mfr, included dialogue about what they considered to be a "living wage" for their employees at a higher rate than others did.

Again, I cannot make this as a statement, but it is something that does resonate with my understanding of mfr'ing costs ... as I've worked in mfr'ing enough to know that different industries and different economies have an impact on product pricing, beyond just the cost of raw materials. Many folks look at the sensor and go "same sensor", should cost about the same ... but, the location of mfr economy is a piece that folks may be overlooking.

And yes, I know that some folks here are actually from Germany, so their opinion of input may vastly differ from this consideration. Just mentioning it as something for potential consideration. I mean, it is of little surprise to folks that goods mfr'd in China cost less than Japan. So, why is it of such surprise that goods mfr'd in Germany cost more (if the company / country is on a different economy scale for wages) than Japanese companies. And, that most Japanese companies are more "tightly grouped" in terms of their product line costs. I can't help but at least wonder to what degree the wage of the employee (and economy of scale for production) influences the delta that leaves folks scratching their head so often about the price variance for Leica vs. others. MOC is a piece of it, too, but I think that many times folks never consider if there is a wage difference involved.




Jul 07, 2026 at 07:07 AM
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Rebranding or not, it is strange too me that Leica copied Panasonic's idea of a 44MP sensor in an L mount body. From my experience M mount lenses on the S1RII work just like my M mount lenses worked on my SL3 and SL3-S.

This all said, I enjoy using my M mount glass MUCH more on my recent Nikon Z5II purchase with Techart AF adapter than on any L mount camera out there.

It is such better experience with M Mount glass (my initial reason for getting into the SL system) that I have sold all my SL and Lumix cameras and almost all my L mount glass, except for 2 Panasonic lenses which BTW performed tremendously on the SL3.

Today I carry an X2D2 with 35-100 which covers about 95% of my needs which, for me, is way better than carrying an SL system camera.



Jul 07, 2026 at 07:12 AM
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Rebranding or not, it is strange too me that Leica copied Panasonic's idea of a 44MP sensor in an L mount body. From my experience M mount lenses on the S1RII work just like my M mount lenses worked on my SL3 and SL3-S.

This all said, I enjoy using my M mount glass MUCH more on my recent Nikon Z5II purchase with Techart AF adapter than on any L mount camera out there.

It is such better experience with M Mount glass (my initial reason for getting into the SL system) that I have sold all my SL and Lumix cameras
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Leica SL2 "copied" the idea of the S1R sensor. SL3 "copied" the idea of the Sony a7rV sensor.
BTW, the sensors, if you included the toppings, are not the same or copied.
And the camera's gestalt is completely different.



Jul 07, 2026 at 07:38 AM
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I am not qualified to make this as a STATEMENT, so accept it as a question ... although, it was a discussion point I had with a different mfr from Germany.

The wage(s) paid to German employees is on a different economy. Mfr's from differing brands, that use the same economy for (i.e. each from Japan, etc.) mfr are more likely to be much closer in mfr costs. So, where Leica mfr's in Germany and pays wages on their scale, does that difference in the country's economy ... and, Leica's ethos about wages to their employees ... contribute to the price
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Of course, labor costs here in Germany are higher than in China—there’s no question about that—but I personally doubt this justifies a 100% markup. Just for fun, I checked online and got the answer below. It’s written in German, but anyone can have it translated into their native language. I make no guarantees regarding its accuracy. Ultimately, I really don’t care whether an SL3 costs 4,000, 8,000, or 12,000 euros, but I found it quite revealing when Leica—last year (or was it 2024?)—sold brand-new SL2-S and SL2 bodies through official dealers for 2,000 and 2,500 euros, respectively, for a period of time. I don’t think those bodies were sold at a loss.

Quote Gemini:
》Bei einer hochkomplexen. modernen Kamera wie der Lumix S1R I macher die reinen Fabrik-Arbeitskosten (Direct Labor) in China einen überraschend geringen Teil aus:
Vom Verkaufspreis (Ladenpreis): ca. 1 % bis 3 %.

Von den reinen Herstellungskosten (Ab Werk): ca. 4 % bis 8 %.
Warum ist das so wenig:
1.
Massive Automatisierung Moderne Kamerawerke (wie das in Xiamen) sind extrem automatisiert. Roboter übernehmen das Bestücken der Platinen und präzise Fertigungsschritte. Menschliche Arbeit entfalli primär auf die Endmontage und Qualitätskontrolle.
2.
Materialwert dominiert: Der Löwenanteil der
Herstellungskosten fließt in die hochentwickelten
Komponenten - allen voran den 44-Megapixel-BSI-Sensor den Bildprozessor, das wetterfeste
Magnesiumgehäuse und die mechanischen Bauteile Verschluss, Bildstabilisator)
3.
Marge, Entwicklung unc Vertrieb: Der Verkaufspreis im Laden beinhaltet enorme Aufschläge, die gar nichts mit der Fabrik zu tun haben: die jahrelange Entwicklung (R&D) und Softwareprogrammierung in Japan, weltweites Marketing Transport, Zölle sowie die Gewinnmargen für Panasonic und den Einzelhändler.

Bei der Leica SL3-P (bzw. SL3) siehi die Kalkulation vollig anders aus als bei Panasonic. Da die Kamera ir Wetzlar, Deutschland, in hohem Maße von Hand montiert, justiert und geprüft wird, verschieben sich die Werte durch das deutsche Lohnniveau und der
Manufaktur-Charakter deutlich nach oben.
Hier verlagert sich das Verhaltnis wie folgt:

Vom Verkaufspreis (Ladenpreis von ca. 6.800 €): ca. 8 % bis 12 % (ca. 550 € bis 800 €)

Von den reinen Herstellungskosten (Ab Werk): ca. 25 % bis 35 %.
Die Hauptunterschiede in der Kostenstruktur:

Manuelle Wertarbeit stat
Fließband-Automation: Während in Xiamen Roboter die Gehäuse füllen, werden be Leica in Hessen die Gehäuseteile, Dichtungen, der Verschluss und der Sensor vor Technikern manuell eingepasst präzise kalibriert und einzeln final kontrolliert. Ein solcher Arbeitsplatz in Deutschland kostet den Arbeitgeber pro Stunde ein Vielfaches eines Fabrikarbeiter-Arbeitsplatzes in
China.

Komponenten-Zukauf bleibt teuer: Auch wenn "Made in Germany" draufsteht, kommer Elektronik-Kernkomponenten wie der Sensor oder der Prozessor) aus Asien. Derer Materialwert ist extrem hoch, aber der deutsche Arbeitskostenanteil bezieht sich
rein auf das Fräsen des Aluminium/Magnesium-Bodys (oft teils in Portugal im Leica-Werk vorproduziert) und die Endmontage in Wetzlar

Exklusivitäts-Aufschlag: Der relative Anteil der Arbeitskosten am Ladenpreis bricht bei Leica nur deshalb nicht komplet nach oben aus, weil die vertriebliche Marge und der Markenaufschlag "Luxussteuer") beim Endpreis im Fotogeschäft extrem hoch angesetzt sind.《



Jul 07, 2026 at 07:58 AM
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Rebranding or not, it is strange too me that Leica copied Panasonic's idea of a 44MP sensor in an L mount body. From my experience M mount lenses on the S1RII work just like my M mount lenses worked on my SL3 and SL3-S.

This all said, I enjoy using my M mount glass MUCH more on my recent Nikon Z5II purchase with Techart AF adapter than on any L mount camera out there.

It is such better experience with M Mount glass (my initial reason for getting into the SL system) that I have sold all my SL and Lumix cameras
...Show more →

So, you want the M mount lens rendering but the AF experience. If so, the SL is not the camera for you. Maybe you are driven more by an adapter company than a camera company?

People seem to think only about the mpx when they talk about sensors. This is only one of many attributes of a sensors design. If you choose BSI CMOS architecture to discuss then pretty much everyone decided to copy Sony cameras. Are all cameras with 24mpx Sony sensors like you Nikon Z5 ii has just copies of each other? I think not. There are other thinks that lead you to prefer the Nikon.

There are differences in the Sony sensor in the SL3-P sensor and the Lumix Sony sensor. Both are being purchased from Sony with slight customizations. There are big differences between the cameras that are important to which one fits someone best.

It seems clear to me that this is not a simple rebranding.



Jul 07, 2026 at 09:31 AM
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Of course, labor costs here in Germany are higher than in China—there’s no question about that—but I personally doubt this justifies a 100% markup.


The AI answer suggests that Leica's approach does result in considerably higher labor input costs relative to retail price. But all of these products, whether from Leica or Panasonic, are subject to massive markups. The argument that Leica's products should be cheaper could equally be applied to Panasonic, Canikony, etc. Yet those sell for those prices...

The end markup is what Leica decides is necessary to appropriately suit the product to the Leica brand and its premium, 'luxury' placement relative to and somewhat unique from other photographic brands. And how much is that? Maybe it's easier to determine with Leica's products that are more of a 'direct port' and made by a third party. Such as various Sigma lenses made in Japan. As discussed in this thread, the 100-400 is $2590 and the Sigma version is $1049. Another example is the 70-200/2.8: $3550 vs. $1649. So around 2-2.5x higher than the Sigma versions. How much optical design input did Leica have in these lenses, which seem to only be cosmetically different than the Sigma versions? Interestingly, the Leica lenses are very similarly priced to the respective Canikony models. The 'knock' against Leica here is that these are 'cheap' Sigma lenses in Leica clothing. Same complaint about the SL cameras.

It appears the SL3 is also made in Germany, yet I have not heard much about Leica's development input for it relative to the base Panasonic components it shares. Interestingly, the SL3 retails for more than the SL3-P. Why, if more of the SL3-P development was Leica in-house?



Jul 07, 2026 at 11:30 AM
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I’m not saying Leica should make the SL3 cheaper. I was simply responding to a post that cited production costs as the reason for the high price—a factor I don't believe is the decisive one. A lower price wouldn't fit the image of a luxury brand and would therefore be completely counterproductive. That’s precisely why I found it so odd that Leica practically dumped the SL2 at such low prices. And I certainly wasn't the only one who felt that way.



Jul 07, 2026 at 12:08 PM
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@rscheffler@
I’m not saying Leica should make the SL3 cheaper. I was simply responding to a post that cited production costs as the reason for the high price—a factor I don't believe is the decisive one. A lower price wouldn't fit the image of a luxury brand and would therefore be completely counterproductive. That’s precisely why I found it so odd that Leica practically dumped the SL2 at such low prices. And I certainly wasn't the only one who felt that way.

I doubt that, and have never seen any indication that Leica keeps the prices up in order to maintain exclusivity. They just do not have the same cost constraints as other manufacturers and can allow themselves to be less cost efficient in their designs.



Jul 07, 2026 at 12:11 PM
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I doubt that, and have never seen any indication that Leica keeps the prices up in order to maintain exclusivity.

That was a good one!😅



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So, you want the M mount lens rendering but the AF experience. If so, the SL is not the camera for you. Maybe you are driven more by an adapter company than a camera company?

People seem to think only about the mpx when they talk about sensors. This is only one of many attributes of a sensors design. If you choose BSI CMOS architecture to discuss then pretty much everyone decided to copy Sony cameras. Are all cameras with 24mpx Sony sensors like you Nikon Z5 ii has just copies of each other? I think not. There are other thinks
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You have no idea what I am about (especially after your terse comment about me being more driven by an adapter company than a camera company), but that's OK since I guess I have no idea what you are about since you constantly tell us you have inside knowledge about Leica after meeting various Leica execs.

Have you seriously tried another camera system that is not excessively Leica recently? Trying the Hasselblad X2D2 made me realize how lacking my SL3 system actually was for me and my photography.

Many here seem to only want to hear lavish praise about Leica products instead of keeping an open mind about other options out there.

Other than disassembling an S1RII and an SL3-P I have seen no concrete proof that the sensor glasses are different in front of the same Sony sensor.

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Jul 07, 2026 at 03:38 PM
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The only pricing consideration for Leica is what they think the market will bare. There will be a minimum input to wholesale ratio but no manufacturer tries to sell at the lowest price possible. Leica have set themselves up as a luxury brand. They sell the red dot (or lack of it) and you get a camera thrown in. You don’t need to like it but that’s what Leica do. There are plenty of other brands if you don’t. But they’re all doing the same thing. I’m sure Canon would kill to be able to work on Leica’s margins.

As for being a re-skinned S1Rii? Having both in hand I’m saying no. I’m absolutely certain they share a lot of their components but the experience is wildly different. Some things are better on the Lumix and some on the Leica. The output is comparable. But using them is as different as a GFX100ii to the X2D2 or the A7R5 to the SL3. But if you’re calling it the SL3-Panasonic you have no idea. You likely haven’t used either and you’ve got to resort to derogatory slang to do nothing more than make those buying this camera feel bad. Classy……

The question is how much the *Leica experience* is worth. To most likely, not double. That’s fine. To a few of us, it is. Also fine. For me, I’ve bought every Lumix *high end* camera on release and then ended up buying the Leica variant. S1R, S1Rii, S5ii, Every single time the Lumix is immediately retired because the SL user experience is important to me. It’s got nothing to do with frame rates or sensors. It’s always about the UI. Same with Sony. My SL3 shoots 10x the frames my A7R5 does.

What’s happening here are arguments over a spreadsheet, which is stupid. Rubbish sites like DP Review use them blindly thinking a spec sheet is the most importantly thing. Same with price. Your expensive might be my pocket money or vice versa. These are so far down the list of what’s important it’s ridiculous but the web and YouTube make it seem like it’s life or death. If you like the button layout of a Canon you aren’t switching to Sony, regardless of the sensor. The UI and user experience of a camera is by far the most importantly thing on a camera body but only after lenses, light and subject. Sure we want performance and we’re frustrated when we don’t get it. But it’s UI and handling and pride of ownership that most people really look for. If the buttons don’t work for you or you don’t like the way the rear screen moves, nothing will make you want to use that camera.

This camera isn’t going to convince anyone who shoots Nikon to switch camps. If you like the Z8 you like the Z8. If you’re not jumping ship to Canon you’re definitely not jumping to Leica. This camera is for the SL faithful who wanted something faster. Those that are already invested in the UI and the ecosystem. Those that have been trying to make an SL3(S) work for some faster moving stuff. Those that haven’t jumped ship to Sony. This is a camera for the Leica fanboy(girl)s. This is the best LEICA SL camera for action. Not the best Canon or Nikon. This is a present for SL shooters. And those people are delighted. You should e happy for them. They are But a few jump in telling other how stupid their decisions are and we end up with this sh*t show….. Why try to spoil some one else’s enjoyment of the hobby? Does it make you feel better about your own inadequacies?

This is a photography community. Gear is required and gear is fun. Squabbles over whether someone made a daft decision are daft. It’s their decision to make. Whether a SL3-P is worth it are personal decisions. It does not matter if one camera is objectively better than another. There are too many subjective reasons to buy any camera. You may as well go all in and say if your’re buying a Leica M over a Sony A1ii you’re and idiot. Because saying someone is silly for buying a SL3-P over a Lumix is exactly the same argument. If you can afford it and it brings you some joy using it, I’m all in. But criticising the purchase choices of others because it doesn’t suit you is poor form.

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Jul 07, 2026 at 06:27 PM
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Agree, Leica UI beats Lumix UI hands down-that's one reason why I decided to sell my S1RII.
For me X2D2 UI bets Leicas UI hands down, but that's me and I agree we all have our likes and dislikes and that is our sole decision as to which system we want to use.

We are all fanboys(girls) of something..

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stgrove wrote:
You have no idea what I am about (especially after your terse comment about me being more driven by an adapter company than a camera company), but that's OK since I guess I have no idea what you are about since you constantly tell us you have inside knowledge about Leica after meeting various Leica execs.

Have you seriously tried another camera system that is not excessively Leica recently? Trying the Hasselblad X2D2 made me realize how lacking my SL3 system actually was for me and my photography.

Many here seem to only want to hear lavish praise about Leica products instead
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I don't know what upset you. I was agreeing with you that the SL system was probably not the system that best suits you. I never disagreed with any of your choices. I just noted that having AF capabilities on M lenses was a unique determinant factor to me as I enjoy the MF experience. If that does really increase your enjoyment as strongly as you stated it does then I support that for you. I don't beleive that capability or adapter is available on the SL making it not the best choice for you. I don't get the hostility over that?

Yes, I have tried the Hasselblad X2D2 system briefly. In fact, I was offered a long term loan of a body and lens. From everything I have seen, it is a superb system. But it is not right for me. I am more interested in having a unified system with as consistant a UI and shooting experience as possible to shoot my vintage screw mount through modern M mount lens collection on. This includes bodies from IIIf, M6, M11, and SL. I also have a strong affection for my APO-SL lens collection. No where do I make the claim that this preference of mine is better or more valid than yours.

I am relying on past publications by others regarding sensor cover glass thickness. Testing seems to show that this is very relevant when using some M lenses. It seems Leica has the thinnest at 0.8mm, Nikon next at 1.1mm, Sony and Canon much thicker. Leica does make a point that it considers analog M lenses when designing its sensors. This includes such things such as asymmetrical lenses on its sensor cover glass.

I think we should just carry on enjoying sharing each other's choices in the hobby of photography.

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The only pricing consideration for Leica is what they think the market will bare. There will be a minimum input to wholesale ratio but no manufacturer tries to sell at the lowest price possible. Leica have set themselves up as a luxury brand. They sell the red dot (or lack of it) and you get a camera thrown in. You don’t need to like it but that’s what Leica do. There are plenty of other brands if you don’t. But they’re all doing the same thing. I’m sure Canon would kill to be able to work on Leica’s margins.

As for
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This is so well stated!
I'm not leaving Nikon for Leica, Canon, or Sony... A Leica shooter who values the Leica UI over raw AF performance or (fill in blank), now has a good reason to stay in the Leica ecosystem. I think that the SL3-P is a brilliant move on Leica's part, it will recruit some new users (possible Panasonic and others) to the SL system, and with the lower prices of the the very good Sigma lenses, a person can buy the SL3-P with one "special" Leica lens and fill out their system with high quality Sigma's at a lower price.

regards,
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Jul 07, 2026 at 07:41 PM
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The Leica user experience has always been expounded as one of Leica's advantages on this board, to the dismay of the 'non-believers' who feel compelled to enlighten the poor Leica users about their ignorance of much superior (on paper) and much less expensive options available from (insert brand name here).

To be fair to DPR and their SL3-P hands-on review, they did emphasize the SL3-P's user experience: "One of the Leica's most compelling aspects isn't something you can see from product photos or interpret from the spec sheets: the user interface."



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The Leica user experience has always been expounded as one of Leica's advantages on this board, to the dismay of the 'non-believers' who feel compelled to enlighten the poor Leica users about their ignorance of much superior (on paper) and much less expensive options available from (insert brand name here).

To be fair to DPR and their SL3-P hands-on review, they did emphasize the SL3-P's user experience: "One of the Leica's most compelling aspects isn't something you can see from product photos or interpret from the spec sheets: the user interface."


I saw that in the DPR review. Ironically, it struck me that DPR had a long history of making the $$$ case against Leica with other options available. Not sure if that is a shift for one reason or another, or the "light came on" for them.

Personally, I used to be in the anti-Leica camp. Now, after having been using my Leica bodies for a few years, and my SL2-S for a while, the Panny S1R II ... well, let's just say that there are some things I dig for the Panny's tactile switches, but other things that have me going ... "Why can't I get to to just do this (or that)?" ... even after going through setup, etc.

I've only been shooting the S1R II for a couple months, but the bonding period is still a bit wonky for me. Missed shots ... yeah, a few more than I care for. Actually, because of this ... I shot an important event for work, and I chose my SL2-S instead of the S1R II. Learning curve, eventually get there ... sure, why not, maybe. Difference ... yeah, difference. 2X $$$ difference, that depends.

Viewfinder experience ... different. Value thereof, depends. Silly thing about that ... the diopter adjustment on the SL series has markings. I know EXACTLY where to put the diopter adjustment when I wear my glasses, and EXACTLY where to put the diopter adjustment when I take them off. Sure, I can make the adjustment on the S1R II, but I have to fiddle / confirm visually each time I decide to go with vs. without my glasses. There are no reference marks. That is something that is not showing up on a spec sheet. but for me ... it is a very noticeable difference in use. Of course, that is a YMMV kind of thing, too.

I guess my point is that the user interface is an experiential thing, that until you've spent enough time with it, folks probably don't have the means to value the difference. I get that. BUT, once you find a tool that you truly enjoy working with ... yeah, there's value in swinging a hammer that fits you well. For those who Leica fits them well ... yeah, there's that.



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The Leica user experience


Today I learned that SL users value the experience of lugging around 750g f/2 primes without aperture rings. They call it "Leica user experience". Oh... and that VCR power button conveniently reminding you that at some point in human history the 1990s actually happened.

The menus? Yes, the menus and the box it came in! The two critically important objects you interact for about two hours after receiving a camera, only to never see them again.

The SL cameras have something going for them. It surely isn't the specs, but their owners aren't great at articulating what that is. Yes, yes, making fun of other gearheads is counterproductive and silly. But remember, this is why we invented the Internet. For this, and for the cat pics.



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Whether it's Leica or Canikony, if the other party hasn't used the equipment being discussed or has at least a baseline similar point of reference, they're probably going to be talking past one another.

Aperture rings. It's funny. On the M system, aperture rings on the lenses feel perfectly normal and expected. It's the way the system works. I'm not an SL system user, but I've used Canon since the FD days. FD lenses had aperture rings. EF didn't. I didn't care that the aperture ring disappeared because it was faster and easier to change the aperture setting by turning a dial on the camera. I haven't missed it since ~1990. I'm someone who changes lens a lot. The aperture setting remains the same. I don't have to think about an aperture ring on the second lens that might have been set hours or days earlier and doesn't match the current situation. Some of Canon's new RF lenses have an aperture ring. I never use it and couldn't care less that it's present. The dial on the camera is under my fingertips exactly where I expect it to be. Fast, easy, intuitive. But that's me.

If I had the budget, I'd own every one of those Leica 750g f/2 lenses. Because of the optics. It's probably the most compelling reason to own the SL system, IMO.



RustyBug wrote:
I saw that in the DPR review. Ironically, it struck me that DPR had a long history of making the $$$ case against Leica with other options available. Not sure if that is a shift for one reason or another, or the "light came on" for them.


They still mentioned the cost, but it's just a single point to state the obvious. I think their position on Leica has somewhat changed even if most in the comments section still use the same arguments against Leica. And I believe Richard Butler has a soft spot for the M system. The SL3-P probably didn't give them much to write negatively about because it appears to be a generally competent camera and significantly closes a number of gaps between the SL system and Canikony.



Jul 08, 2026 at 12:02 AM
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Whenever I read the word "user experience," I burst out laughing. The marketing industry ought to thank the person who coined the term on bended knee several times a day for this stroke of genius.😅


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