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Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread

  
 
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p.52 #1 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Yes. He puts it as a pro photographer who shoots with A1+24-70GM and M11+35mm 1.4... I was checking a few of his videos... One was about his £50,000 photo spending. He says although new gear makes you go and shoot and it solves one problem, but it causes another problem, eg no perfect equipment He rather shoots than editing photos, but again batches of huge number of photos causes editing problems for him...

Another Japanese PJ (M Shooter) has the same comments, eg GFX100RF file writing (again might be 16bits) is missing the street rhythm of people and found the digital crop/aspect ratios are gimmicks for him... He likes that it doesn't have 70mm mfd and coming from RF, he is customed to shooting with distance in mind... For him, Leica M minimalism is better... He thinks that GFX100RF is a camera for a daily life/family and maybe a few golden sunsets, but then you can have that with any camera/phone...

Another Japanese street stills shooter is showing his red pepper photo in his book and says it will replace his M camera, so again it depends on every individuals needs... At least these are from some photographer user reviews...

RustyBug wrote:
Hunter vs. Fisher ... I think he understands it.

Although, there are probably some setup options to make it more suitable for the Hunter, too.





Apr 20, 2025 at 04:47 PM
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p.52 #2 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bernardl wrote:
Having read many of these interesting discussions I feel comforted in my impression that what we really need is for Nikon or Sony to release their own modern version of a high end fixed lens camera with either a stacked sensor or global shutter, fast high quality lens and IBIS.

I believe they would both perform significantly better and be a better price to performance to bulk compromise for the typical use cases of such cameras.

I would probably feel different if the MF myth still worked on me.

So I’ll wait until something truly appealing shows up.

Cheers,
Bernard


its only a myth if it is a myth and is full frame also a myth v crop sensor or that a fact ? does the sensor size matter or not ? cannot have it both ways in my view.



Apr 20, 2025 at 05:37 PM
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p.52 #3 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


This evening I grabbed my X2D without checking any settings and shot some family Easter images. I mistakenly had the ISO set to 2500. I rarely shoot at 2500, but I can say that with modern noise processing software, I would be hard pressed to find a difference between base and noise suppressed ISO 2500. The RF is the same sensor and I suspect that at 6400 you will be able to get some great images, but the price paid is more time spent in post. So, lack of IBIS and f/4.0 probably is useable in all but really low light. I lack the ability to hold the camera steady, so at ISO 6400, with the RF sensor, I would probably use 1/125 - 1/160 second as my minimum shutter speed. I can shoot with those parameters in most indoor lighting. So, with the acceptance of extra time in post, I’m less resistant to the lack of IBIS on the RF. Eating a bit of photographic crow.


Apr 20, 2025 at 08:33 PM
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p.52 #4 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bwcolor wrote:
This evening I grabbed my X2D without checking any settings and shot some family Easter images. I mistakenly had the ISO set to 2500. I rarely shoot at 2500, but I can say that with modern noise processing software, I would be hard pressed to find a difference between base and noise suppressed ISO 2500. The RF is the same sensor and I suspect that at 6400 you will be able to get some great images, but the price paid is more time spent in post. So, lack of IBIS and f/4.0 probably is useable in all but really low
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Good to hear ... no crow, necessary. Just good, honest perspective / info.

I had a similar experience earlier today ... shot (intentional though) 1/2000 at f/11, ISO 100 in cloudy conditions aiming for the sun (behind clouds). Then switched scene and significantly underexposed, since I wasn't including the sun directly. Correct exposure for the FG would have been more like f/4, 1/60s (about 8 stops ).

I just updated Adobe this morning, in case that's a salient point. When I went to work the file I lifted the snot out of it (the foreground) far beyond what I'm accustomed to (improved ACR ) ... I was only planning on working the sky. And that's with my M10R. Makes me wonder what it could be like with the GFX / X2D sensor. The tone curve adjustment was darn near a vertical line from 4 > 255 (foreground ... (2,3) 4/8/16/32/64/128/256 ... essentially a 6 - 6+ stop lift to values in the 1,2,3 realm also.

I realize it isn't the same as certain use cases folks will present ... but, my salient point is that software is just getting to a place that what used to be "restrictive" or "limiting" isn't much of a hill for it to climb, like it might have been not that long ago. Maybe I'm just a luddite or late to the party, but this one kinda made me go "Huh, what?" So, yeah f/4 and no IBIS ... not worried. Especially, since the P2P shows the sensor having about 1.5 EV better DR than my M10R (same ISO) and about 2 EV Max PDR diff at base ISO vs. base ISO.

So, a difference in faster glass (relative to other MF) options doesn't seem as restrictive / limiting as it once might have been (exposure basis) ... and, looking to the future of software capability, even more so. Granted, there are even faster FF options, but when you get into extreme fast glass, there are some tradeoffs (acceptable / desirable) that come along for the ride, too. I realize that some folks are having a massive case of (pre-use) FOMO with this f/4, non-IBIS thing ... bottom line, I'm not. YMMV

In some regard, the FOMO issue is a bit of irony. I say that, as I see the ethos of the GFX 100RF as an antidote to other FOMO, where pack mule MF gear isn't desired / appropriate or there are other considerations. That can be for either social choices, or for venue restrictions, etc. I mean, some venues won't even allow me to take in an M because it is ILC. And, they wouldn't allow me to take in a Q because the lens was longer than their restrictions. Essentially P&S or phone only, allowed. I could have taken the 100RF in that instance (concert venue). Incidentally, the 100RF is actually lighter then my M with a small 28 Cron mounted, and not as wide. A bit taller, though.

Show and tell. Last one included for reference to why I was shooting such high SS and stopped down. Also, the exif for aperture is only a "guess" by the camera (manual lenses), I wasn't that wide open (i.e. f/11).




  LEICA M10-R    Elmarit-M 1:2,8/24 ASPH. lens    24mm    f/6.8    1/2000s    100 ISO    -0.3 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Elmarit-M 1:2,8/24 ASPH. lens    24mm    f/6.8    1/2000s    100 ISO    -0.3 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    Elmarit-M 1:2,8/24 ASPH. lens    24mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    100 ISO    -0.3 EV  




Apr 20, 2025 at 10:30 PM
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p.52 #5 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Just an update for US Fuji customers. B&H Photo has now changed their sales status of the 100RF to "Currently Unavailable" so their pre-order pre-tariff price commitment is now history.


Apr 21, 2025 at 10:54 AM
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p.52 #6 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


goodbokeh wrote:
Just an update for US Fuji customers. B&H Photo has now changed their sales status of the 100RF to "Currently Unavailable" so their pre-order pre-tariff price commitment is now history.


Do you think this applies to all pre-orders or just new ones though?



Apr 21, 2025 at 11:01 AM
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p.52 #7 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


It's a pretty crappy situation all around and I know a lot of it is out of Fuji's hands...but it's release week on a $5k camera and most of us have no idea what's going on. There has not been an official statement, just a couple post on fuji rumors and forums. To not know where my money stands just a few days until I am supposed to get the camera is a bit tough. I know the entire situation is a tricky one, but as a company you have to make pivots and decisions and let the customers know one way or another. It sucks no matter what, so rip the band aid off and let us know what's going on.

I contacted BH and they have no clue either. They couldn't give me an answer.



Apr 21, 2025 at 11:34 AM
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p.52 #8 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


mard22 wrote:
It's a pretty crappy situation all around and I know a lot of it is out of Fuji's hands...but it's release week on a $5k camera and most of us have no idea what's going on. There has not been an official statement, just a couple post on fuji rumors and forums. To not know where my money stands just a few days until I am supposed to get the camera is a bit tough. I know the entire situation is a tricky one, but as a company you have to make pivots and decisions and let the customers know
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I don't' think Fujifilm (or any other company) has much of an idea of where this whole on-again-off-again, up-today-down-tomorrow-up again tariff thing is going either. If tariffs are going up, they can't ship for sales at the list price. If they are coming down, it makes no sense to ship now when they are up.

It is all quite insane.



Apr 21, 2025 at 11:57 AM
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p.52 #9 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


BH also still states... Est. Ship Date: Thu Apr 24. So who knows. I'm pretty sure if there is a price change, they'll notify pre-order holders before sending.


Apr 21, 2025 at 12:17 PM
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p.52 #10 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


UCTeeth wrote:
Do you think this applies to all pre-orders or just new ones though?


I asked B&H (by chat) on April 2nd if the Trump tariffs would affect my 100RF and Mac Studio pre-order prices. I was told "The price you have is what you will be charged". The Sony Rumors site a day later also reported the B&H pre-tariff price commitment on pre and back orders. So that seems as clear as things can be in our upside down world today.

BTW, the Dollar is continuing to weaken today and capital flight out of the country is increasing according to Reuters and the WSJ. I think camera gear will be going up like I remember in my youth it doing back in the mid-70s...big double digits.



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p.52 #11 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


From my LCS:

We are expecting a small shipment of GFX100 RFs in shortly, they will be here before the embargo date on April 24th. The 2nd shipment date has not been announced due to the tariff situation as you suspected.

We will be reaching out to soon to customers that are on the first allocation.



Apr 21, 2025 at 01:13 PM
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p.52 #12 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


The good news is that Japan is either the first, or one of the first countries to negotiate a new trade deal. So, things should improve soon. I’m guessing that things won’t go quickly with the E.U., so you might need to hold off on that new Leica. Also, the X2Dii should be on hold. I hope that this is considered a Swedish and not Chinese product. The original X2D was made in Sweden.


Apr 21, 2025 at 01:29 PM
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p.52 #13 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


RoamingScott wrote:
From my LCS:

We are expecting a small shipment of GFX100 RFs in shortly, they will be here before the embargo date on April 24th. The 2nd shipment date has not been announced due to the tariff situation as you suspected.

We will be reaching out to soon to customers that are on the first allocation.


What does LCS mean? Thanks.



Apr 21, 2025 at 01:44 PM
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p.52 #14 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bwcolor wrote:
The good news is that Japan is either the first, or one of the first countries to negotiate a new trade deal. So, things should improve soon. I’m guessing that things won’t go quickly with the E.U., so you might need to hold off on that new Leica. Also, the X2Dii should be on hold. I hope that this is considered a Swedish and not Chinese product. The original X2D was made in Sweden.


Don't count your chickens before they hatch:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2025/04/19/economy/us-japan-tariffs-no-quick-deal/



Apr 21, 2025 at 01:47 PM
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goodbokeh wrote:
What does LCS mean? Thanks.


My guess is local camera store/shop.

By stating my guess, it will most likely accelerate someone answering by correcting me.



Apr 21, 2025 at 01:47 PM
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p.52 #16 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


For what it's worth, I got an email notice from B&H that my pre-order is still backordered. This was a fairly late pre-order, my main one was from a small camera store and I canceled my early B&H order but after all the tariff related news, I made a second preorder at B&H just in case.

This will be interesting to see what happens - I wouldn't be surprised if some camera stores mark up the prices out the door too given that supplies will likely be constrained for some time.



Apr 21, 2025 at 02:21 PM
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p.52 #17 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


tsdevine wrote:
My guess is local camera store/shop.

By stating my guess, it will most likely accelerate someone answering by correcting me.



I made the mistake of checking Urban Dictionary to see what LCS means. I prefer your guess.



Apr 21, 2025 at 05:57 PM
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p.52 #18 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Yes, local camera store. I have a unit for me, for better or worse


Apr 21, 2025 at 07:24 PM
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p.52 #19 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


I see this camera has a manual focus assist feature called “focus map” which turns focus points green when in focus, yellow if in front of focus and blue if back of focus. This appears to be a feature in the GFX100S II and GFX100 II.

Anyone have any experience with this feature? How well does it work?



Apr 21, 2025 at 09:11 PM
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p.52 #20 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


tzhang4284 wrote:
For what it's worth, I got an email notice from B&H that my pre-order is still backordered. This was a fairly late pre-order, my main one was from a small camera store and I canceled my early B&H order but after all the tariff related news, I made a second preorder at B&H just in case.

This will be interesting to see what happens - I wouldn't be surprised if some camera stores mark up the prices out the door too given that supplies will likely be constrained for some time.


There still may be some hope. I've had a Mac Studio back ordered at B&H for a month now. Tonight (8PM PDT) it now says it's a "New Order" and "Processing" in the title bar of the order detail page. At the very same time it still says "Backordered" in the status column. So the B&H computer is in the middle of updating the page.

Since the 100RF isn't scheduled to be shipped until the 24th maybe Tuesday or Wednesday night that New Order and Processing update will pop up then for us also...

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