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 p.3 #5 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread | |
Greg7579 wrote:
Dan, I know what you are getting at, but I disagree a bit here on this take.... Shutter shock with GFX is real and we avoid it by shooting on EFCS. We have been talking about this for 6 years and it is generally accepted practice that we all shoot EFCS on GFX cameras to avoid the shock wave that rips your arms off while holding a GFX camera set on standard mechanical shutter and the huge explosion that occurs at trigger pull when not on ES or EFCS.
Plus, as an old infantry soldier that has been in combat, I hit the ground and start screaming "incoming!" every time I accidently shoot an image not on EFCS. Boom!!!! Yes, it matters. 💥💥💥💥💣💣💣💣
When Fuji was first developing GFX, the early shutter shock waves generating from the test facility ripped through Tokyo and measured 3.2 on the Seismic scale. So, they developed EFCS. Genius! ...Show more →
My point is a bit subtler than challenging the fact that "shutter shock...is real." It is real, and the more mass that is moved when a focal plane shutter is triggered, the more effect it can have, all else being equal. (As always, all else is never equal, but I digress...)
It is the notion that using a leaf shutter somehow compensates for excluding IBIS (or lens IS) from the camera that doesn't quite pass the test.
Yes, vibration from the shutter is decreased (though not eliminated) by using a leaf shutter instead of a focal plane shutter. And in tripod-based photography where all other sources of vibration can be controlled/eliminated, it is useful to control that last remaining source of vibration. (That's the reason for old school mirror lockup, and fore more modern EFCS.)
But leaves unaddressed the far more consequential of blur-producing camera motion when shooting handheld, namely our inability to hold a camera with perfect steadiness even in ideal circumstances. That is what IBIS addresses, and it remains undressed here.
I'm not claiming that one can't make photographs using a camera without IBIS. I used such cameras for decades, most recently the XPro2 that I used for street photography before moving to the XT5.
But today IBIS is available and rapidly becoming a standard feature on modern cameras, rather than some sort of exotic add-on, and one that helps a lot in many real world photography situations. That's why Fujifilm is putting it in pretty much every other camera that they make these days...
In any case, looking at this question may at least help some people to better understand the sources of vibration/motion induced blur and the various ways that they can be controlled.
bwcolor wrote:
I guess it comes down to if you trust the person making the video. In this case, it is someone, Hugh Brownstone, that is well grounded in Leica Q. In this review, specific and I think relevant comparisons are made with the Q3. I can understand suspecting H.S. of having a Leica bias. Other than that I don’t expect to get much viewing photos via a video on my iPad.
No single reviewer, especially if we look only at release day previews/reviews, should be given too much weight. Better understanding of any new camera emerges over time — at least months — of use by a wide range of photographers. If one reviewer says product A is the greatest thing ever and blows all the other stuff out of the water and another says that product A is total crap... the more rational, useful reviews are probably those that acknowledge both the strengths and weakness of a product and which come after the reviewers have spend significant time with it.
If you've been around this forum for a while, you have probably seen particular posters start out as passionate, outspoken fans of some brand new product, so much so that they pre-order before anyone even knows the camera's specifications...
... only to switch gears and become fairly serious critics of the same gear a few months later as they move on to preorder and rave about The Next Greatest Thing In The World.
Edited on Mar 20, 2025 at 12:14 PM · View previous versions
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