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 p.7 #18 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025 | |
rscheffler wrote:
The M11 has several weaknesses, primarily the slow readout of the sensor, which means e-shutter is prone to rolling shutter effects. IMO a truly silent and usable M with a stacked sensor seems like such a 'no-brainer' that I'm surprised Leica put the slow 60MP sensor in the M11 instead of the fast 50MP from the a1, unless of course that one wasn't available from Sony.
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henk.sijgers wrote:
This is a great analysis. Personally I'd like something that honors the core values of the M system (as I see them): the compact body and ergonomics and the small manual-focus lenses. The SL system (and the R before it) are too bulky for my tastes (my L mount is a Lumix S5ii mostly used to scan 35mm negatives) and so are their lenses.
Leveraging PDAF, a high-res EVF, and focus recognition/aids to provide a "smart electronic viewfinder" for M mount lenses seems like a thoroughly modern take on the rangefinder camera concept. Ideally this would also allow a complete return to the film M body size (i.e., a little shorter, like my M2). Punch in is great, but Leica should prioritize speed to focus, the way rangefinders do (and fortunately the EVF removes the calibration concerns).
I'd prefer IBIS, but not at the cost of M240 thickness: my hands are small so I found the M240 somewhat awkward to operate. I find that I simply shoot my M11 at 36MP, so a return to an M10R resolution sensor would not bother me. I don't know the difference in materials, manufacturing, and assembly costs of a high-end EVF vs a Rangefinder unit, but I wonder if the swap really means [I]that[/I] big a price increase (not that it wouldn't be used to justify one).
In summary: M2 size, M mount, swap rangefinder for EVF, design the focusing experience to prioritize speed, and return image resolution to ~40MP and I start wondering what items and body parts I can sell to fund the purchase. As an adjunct to the M2 and M11 of course.
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I think an EVF M camera in terms of cost of manufacture will be less than the traditional rangefinder M since Leica can 'simply' drop in an EVF module and not have to deal with the fiddly mechanical parts of the rangefinder system. The fancy subject detection/tracking mirrorless features can be imported from the SL system, though there will still of course be unique development costs for an EVF-M camera. But.... If Leica is concerned about undermining the traditional rangefinder M camera, I would expect the EVF camera to be priced on par with the traditional M, simply because they can. You can probably argue they could price it higher, just because they can and there will be fairly strong initial demand. They'd be leaving money on the table to discount it compared to the current M, at least on release, in part because they operate in a different market space than the mainstream brands. I'm sure the creative marking people at Leica will be able to generate a lot of nicely worded text to justify whatever they decide. 
RustyRus wrote:
AF cameras are everywhere-
Find a better way of doing MF with an EVF and (not focus peaking) and how to deliver something new and exciting for the market.
Create the Range Finder expierence on EVF- Revolutionize the market and disrupt themselves by creating an EVF just as good if not better than the RF patch.
With PD pixels on the sensor, I see no reason whey they couldn't implement a 'virtual' rangefinder patch that works exactly like the traditional mechanical/optical implementation.
It would just be another version of what Canon (and maybe others?) do with their manual focus aids that merge indicators when correct focus is attained. Rather than three triangles that merge, with Leica it could be a virtual RF patch. IMO make the 'patch' monochrome and maybe even run it through a 'find edges' type of filter to make it easier to see when it's in perfect alignment. Or, it could simply change color, like from red for out of focus to green, for in focus.
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