p.10 #2 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
acrion99,
This is terrific! I just mapped mine to F4 as well and it works beautifully. You certainly have a very effective strategy and your results, both video and stills, are superb.
Thanks
Rudy
Thanks!
The more you learn how to color correct in Resolve the less you will need a pass in Camera Raw. If there was a quick way to crop in Resolve I would probably skip Camera Raw for most of my work.
Another tip if you do both video and pictures, I create first a timeline for video with all the grades then I copy the timeline and I use the new one for extracting pictures so I can fine tune the grade picture by picture without "screwing" the whole video grade.
p.10 #4 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
action99
Fabulous results! I do the same in Resolve with 4K120 from my R5. I set the speed setting to 50% in the Inspector which makes the resulting speed 240fps super slow motion with no noticeable IQ degradation.
p.10 #5 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Bald Eagle catches a nice fish and a few seconds later another Bald Eagle tries to steal it. Nice moves save its fish. On the Mississippi River below L&D 21 in NE Missouri. Jan 15, 2025 R5 MKII RF 200-800 4k 119.94 fps mode
p.10 #6 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
dj63401 wrote:
Bald Eagle catches a nice fish and a few seconds later another Bald Eagle tries to steal it. Nice moves save its fish. On the Mississippi River below L&D 21 in NE Missouri. Jan 15, 2025 R5 MKII RF 200-800 4k 119.94 fps mode
Very nice video, Dave - nice smooth tracking, nice colours and details.
How would you rate the AF tracking of the R5ii vs the R5?
p.10 #7 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Very nice video, Dave - nice smooth tracking, nice colours and details.
How would you rate the AF tracking of the R5ii vs the R5?
Rudy
Thanks, Rudy!
This was my first good test on video of the AF tracking. It is better at picking up the bird, and seems to stay, a lot of the time, where it should. I need to practice more and hope it stays cold and the weather cooperates to have more opportunities. I'll have a better idea after more shooting. So far I am happy. I was also happy with the cold weather performance. I have read of some having problems but I had not been out in the real cold yet. I started at 5 degree F, and ended 3.5 hours later at 12 degree F, and no hitches at all.
Dave
p.10 #8 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
dj63401 wrote:
Thanks, Rudy!
This was my first good test on video of the AF tracking. It is better at picking up the bird, and seems to stay, a lot of the time, where it should. I need to practice more and hope it stays cold and the weather cooperates to have more opportunities. I'll have a better idea after more shooting. So far I am happy. I was also happy with the cold weather performance. I have read of some having problems but I had not been out in the real cold yet. I started at 5 degree F, and ended 3.5 hours later at 12 degree F, and no hitches at all.
Dave
p.10 #9 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Some of you may know and some may not so I will share it. This is in reference to using crop mode on the R5 II with the 4k 119.94 fps mode. Once it is put into crop mode then it automatically changes to 2K 119 fps, there is no warning either. This could be an issue if you're unaware.
The R1 does not switch to 2k and says in 4k in crop mode at 119 fps. The R1 does need to go to 2k at 240fps in crop mode.
I use the custom modes to accommodate this for my needs.
R5II I set C1 to 4K 119fps no crop and C3 set to 2k 119fps crop mode
R1 I set C1 to 4k 119fps no crop, C2 4k 119 fps crop mode and C3 2k 240 fps
p.10 #11 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
dj63401 wrote:
Bald Eagles acting like Nascar drivers, bump and pass! Mississippi River below L&D 21 near Quincy, Il.
R5MKII RF200-800 4k 119.88 fps slow motion
Very nice action video, Dave. These beauties are so much fun to watch.
I envy you as we have nothing like this up here in Ottawa, Bald Eagles are still pretty rare.
p.10 #12 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Very nice action video, Dave. These beauties are so much fun to watch.
I envy you as we have nothing like this up here in Ottawa, Bald Eagles are still pretty rare.
Cheers,
Rudy
Thanks, Rudy!
We have had a smallish resident number of eagles the last 10–15 years. But when we have the Arctic blasts come and freeze up the feeding areas, we can have numbers at a lock and dam go from 10-15 to 600-800 as they fly south looking for open water and easy fishing below the lock and dams on the Mississippi River. It is short-lived, as the cold blasts just last a few days to a week and a half. Some winters we don't get them at all. It is happening now and I was out again in the 3 degree F with moderate wind this am. As you know, that is cold.
Dave
p.10 #13 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Carlo_M wrote:
Sorry to hear about your issues. I have not experienced that but to be honest I'm not sure I've used the Shinobi II extensively since I got my R5ii (I used it a lot on my R6ii before I traded up). The videos I've been taking have been off-the-cuff over the last couple months of R5ii ownership so I've been using primarily the LCD screen. I'll let you know if I experience the same glitchiness.
You've updated to the latest firmware from Atomos, right?
Yep, updated the firmware as soon as I unboxed it. I gave it another go the other night and the issues were still there. Switched back to the Viltrox and once again all was fine.
Frankly the built-in flip screen does the job well most of the time, but there are moments when an external monitor can come in handy, especially when shooting with the R5II rigged up. I hope Atomos continues to work on improvements. In the meantime the Viltrox is back off the bench.
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n8rv wrote:
And on another note, because today was just one issue after another... Resolve was giving me all sorts of hell tonight, especially when trying to composite some footage in Fusion. These were fairly simple Fusion comps yet Resolve consistently struggled and crashed multiple times. These new bits of footage were shot in HEVC as opposed to AVC... so now I wonder if that could have been a factor.
This is on a rig with 16-Core AMD Ryzen 7950X processor, dual NVIDIA RTX 4090 GPUs and 128 GB RAM that handles all of my 3D and CGI work without a hitch, so computing power shouldn't be an issue.
I might reshoot some more footage tomorrow in AVC and see if I continue to run into trouble. ...Show more →
So, as mentioned above, I did wind up reshooting footage in AVC (10 bit 422, Intra High). And you can call me crazy but… I found a dramatic difference in performance with Fusion-based and other Resolve tasks. Tracking, masking, effects, compositing, color correction, etc. All were much snappier and stable. Not a single freeze or crash and it was a great experience. Night and day vs. the previous session.
Baffling to say the least, but I think I’ll continue to be safe and stick with AVC for the time being. I’m sure HEVC would be fine for straightforward color correction and editing. But I don’t trust it for compositing or other complex effects.
p.10 #14 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Immature Bald Eagle looking for food and giving me some very nice views. I always like the different looks of the young eagles. I thought this one was very beautiful. Below the Mississippi River L&D 21 at Quincy last Wednesday. R5 MKII RF 200-800 at 500mm 119.88 high frame rate 4k.
p.10 #15 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
dj63401 wrote:
Immature Bald Eagle looking for food and giving me some very nice views. I always like the different looks of the young eagles. I thought this one was very beautiful. Below the Mississippi River L&D 21 at Quincy last Wednesday. R5 MKII RF 200-800 at 500mm 119.88 high frame rate 4k.
Wow Dave, this video is just fantastic, you're very best one yet IMO!!! I love it!
It's such a peaceful and graceful presentation of this majestic bird, the music is perfect and your tracking is superb! It was real pleasure to watch and listen to.
Did the R5ii hold AF tracking throughout whole the complete flight sequence without you having to pump the AF-ON button or do any other adjustments along the way? The R5 would have certainly lost the focus over that length of time (I think).
p.10 #16 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Wow Dave, this video is just fantastic, you're very best one yet IMO!!! I love it!
It's such a peaceful and graceful presentation of this majestic bird, the music is perfect and your tracking is superb! It was real pleasure to watch and listen to.
Did the R5ii hold AF tracking throughout whole the complete flight sequence without you having to pump the AF-ON button or do any other adjustments along the way? The R5 would have certainly lost the focus over that length of time (I think).
Keep em' coming my friend!
Rudy
Rudy, Thank You!
I was fortunate it kept focus on this flight the entire way.
It helped it was shot at 500mm, and the smooth floating of the eagle at times also helped me follow easier than some times.
I'm working on more clips, so they are coming.
Dave
p.10 #17 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
I feel like I've discovered the Treasure of the Sierra Madre. The information and discussions have been extremely valuable and thorough to another R5 user transitioning from stills to video. Thank you all.
The subjects that I intend to video are surfing, and costal birds and landscapes.
Due to glare off of the ocean water, I generally use a polarizer to calm this issue when shooting stills. But with the mention of using ND's I have a question.
Does using a polarizer filter shooting video have any drawbacks?
p.10 #18 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Quicksetter1 wrote:
I feel like I've discovered the Treasure of the Sierra Madre. The information and discussions have been extremely valuable and thorough to another R5 user transitioning from stills to video. Thank you all.
The subjects that I intend to video are surfing, and costal birds and landscapes.
Due to glare off of the ocean water, I generally use a polarizer to calm this issue when shooting stills. But with the mention of using ND's I have a question.
Does using a polarizer filter shooting video have any drawbacks?
Tom
Hi Tom,
Welcome aboard.... looking forward to see some of your videos.
Regarding video forums, this one is for Canon users so it's great to have it and the only one I know of. However, it's just getting started and might be a while before there are enough participants to get a broad spectrum of questions answered. There's another pretty good multi-brand video forum you might want to have a look at and post your question to. You can find it here: https://bcgforums.com/forums/video-discussion-presentation.23/
p.10 #19 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Quicksetter1 wrote:
Does using a polarizer filter shooting video have any drawbacks?
It's a little bit of a complex question, and one I don't have all the answers to, but here are some things I've run across while researching NDs and PFs for use on video.
1) Some (many? most? I'm not sure of the percentage) NDs have some kind of polarizing element in them.
2) NDs with polarizers can sometimes exhibit phenomenon like the "X" pattern or uneven effect on things like the sky (e.g. one side of the frame the sky may be a very deep blue, and then lighten as you move across the sky to the other side of the frame in a way that doesn't reflect reality.
3) Some makers of NDs with polarizing elements have a way to minimize or combat either or both of those effects. Usually they're pretty proud of this and will brag about it on their product page (and likely charge a price premium in comparison to other NDs).
Now you don't explicitly ask this, but I'm inferring this based on your post that you normally use a polarizer for stills, and are looking to get into video. Are you asking if you can just use your polarizer instead of an ND filter?
The answer is: that depends. So a polarizer will usually only cut off a fixed amount of light, say 2 stops. Many of us here use variable ND filters at least in the 1-5 stop range, and I use the NISI system which also has an add on +4 filter so if needed I can stop down 1 - 9 stops. Why is this important? If you're shooting in a place with a lot of ambient light (daytime, outdoors) or a lot of reflected light (you say you shoot some ocean/water scenes) you're going to want to be able to stop down especially if you want to keep a certain aperture.
When shooting video, your shutter speed is ideally 2X your frame rate (so 1/125s for 60fps), your ISO should be your base ISO for video for your camera (generally 800 for recent Canon models) and so the only way to not be overexposed would be to narrow your aperture sometimes way past where you want it to be. Perhaps you want to shoot at f/2.8 or f/4, in bright conditions you're likely well overexposed, and forget about shooting at wider than f/2.8. I haven't had to use the -9 setting yet, but I have gone up as high as -7 on my VND. I just went into my bathroom which has a sun-facing window (which is opaque, not clear). I have to be at f/11-f/14 to not be overexposed at 1/125s and ISO800 (there are darker and lighter parts of the room).
Putting on my VND at -5 stops and now I can open up to between f/1.4 - f/2.8 depending on if I'm shooting the brighter or darker parts.
Setting my VND to -2 (which is what some polarizers do) I'm finding I have to be between f/6.3-f/10.
So if you're looking to shoot video for many of the things you currently shoot using a polarizer for, you'll probably do best to purchase a variable ND system with a built in polarizer that combats the two phenomena I listed above. I've been happy with my NISI Swift True Color VND system. I've used a Haida VND that was -3 to -7 to good effect as well. There are others on the market that I'm sure are just as good or better.
p.10 #20 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Carlo_M wrote:
It's a little bit of a complex question, and one I don't have all the answers to, but here are some things I've run across while researching NDs and PFs for use on video.
1) Some (many? most? I'm not sure of the percentage) NDs have some kind of polarizing element in them.
2) NDs with polarizers can sometimes exhibit phenomenon like the "X" pattern or uneven effect on things like the sky (e.g. one side of the frame the sky may be a very deep blue, and then lighten as you move across the sky to the other side of the frame in a way that doesn't reflect reality.
3) Some makers of NDs with polarizing elements have a way to minimize or combat either or both of those effects. Usually they're pretty proud of this and will brag about it on their product page (and likely charge a price premium in comparison to other NDs).
Now you don't explicitly ask this, but I'm inferring this based on your post that you normally use a polarizer for stills, and are looking to get into video. Are you asking if you can just use your polarizer instead of an ND filter?
The answer is: that depends. So a polarizer will usually only cut off a fixed amount of light, say 2 stops. Many of us here use variable ND filters at least in the 1-5 stop range, and I use the NISI system which also has an add on +4 filter so if needed I can stop down 1 - 9 stops. Why is this important? If you're shooting in a place with a lot of ambient light (daytime, outdoors) or a lot of reflected light (you say you shoot some ocean/water scenes) you're going to want to be able to stop down especially if you want to keep a certain aperture.
When shooting video, your shutter speed is ideally 2X your frame rate (so 1/125s for 60fps), your ISO should be your base ISO for video for your camera (generally 800 for recent Canon models) and so the only way to not be overexposed would be to narrow your aperture sometimes way past where you want it to be. Perhaps you want to shoot at f/2.8 or f/4, in bright conditions you're likely well overexposed, and forget about shooting at wider than f/2.8. I haven't had to use the -9 setting yet, but I have gone up as high as -7 on my VND. I just went into my bathroom which has a sun-facing window (which is opaque, not clear). I have to be at f/11-f/14 to not be overexposed at 1/125s and ISO800 (there are darker and lighter parts of the room).
Putting on my VND at -5 stops and now I can open up to between f/1.4 - f/2.8 depending on if I'm shooting the brighter or darker parts.
Setting my VND to -2 (which is what some polarizers do) I'm finding I have to be between f/6.3-f/10.
So if you're looking to shoot video for many of the things you currently shoot using a polarizer for, you'll probably do best to purchase a variable ND system with a built in polarizer that combats the two phenomena I listed above. I've been happy with my NISI Swift True Color VND system. I've used a Haida VND that was -3 to -7 to good effect as well. There are others on the market that I'm sure are just as good or better. ...Show more →
I was shooting more smoke from the fires last night and shooting another smokey sunset. There was a shorebird running around and I decided to video him. I didn't have my ND filter with me so I had to stop down to f/22 wtih 4k120 adn I believe it was still a tad overexposed when shooting into the sunset. So like you mention, the Nisi VND's are key for daylight shooting or when using large apertures.
