Fred Miranda wrote:
I just bought a couple of 1GB SD cards for my M-D. Now I have only 36 exposures, and the camera shows the remaining images in the optical viewfinder.
Now, every shot counts just like shooting film. These cameras are for crazies like us.
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I just bought a couple of 1GB SD cards for my M-D. Now I have only 36 exposures, and the camera shows the remaining images in the optical viewfinder.
Now, every shot counts just like shooting film. These cameras are for crazies like us.
Fred Miranda wrote:
I just bought a couple of 1GB SD cards for my M-D. Now I have only 36 exposures, and the camera shows the remaining images in the optical viewfinder.
Now, every shot counts just like shooting film. These cameras are for crazies like us.
I never knew they made SD cards for different film types. Does the Acros II SD card cost more than the Tri-X one for example?
highdesertmesa wrote:
That's a type of crazy I can understand.
Some people don't understand because they haven't tried it. When you reduce your options, creativity flourishes. This can be achieved mentally or physically, whatever works best. I find it a great way to experiment.
Modern cameras are like mini computers, doing everything for you. This is great for professionals who can't afford to miss a shot. While advancements in technology are beneficial, for the pure art of photography, less is more.
rollei35_warton wrote:
It’s a typical Leica user behavior, pay more and get less.
I’m trying to achieve the same with my m9 but difficult to accomplish. M9 DNG + JPG is about less than 20mb, even a 1G sd card can hold more than 40 pictures.
The M-D files vary from 23MB to 29MB (It's DNG only), so a 1GB card can hold between 36 and 40 shots, depending on the file size.
I bought the Sandisk 1GB Ultra II. At the time it was the best card available!
Fred Miranda wrote:
I just bought a couple of 1GB SD cards for my M-D. Now I have only 36 exposures, and the camera shows the remaining images in the optical viewfinder.
Now, every shot counts just like shooting film. These cameras are for crazies like us.
I have always wanted to do that with my M11, but they don't make fast small capacity cards -- so the writes have a little lag if I shoot more than one photo at a time. I would love to walk around with 4 1GB cards and use them to constrain myself.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Some people don't understand because they haven't tried it. When you reduce your options, creativity flourishes. This can be achieved mentally or physically, whatever works best. I find it a great way to experiment.
Modern cameras are like mini computers, doing everything for you. This is great for professionals who can't afford to miss a shot. While advancements in technology are beneficial, for the pure art of photography, less is more.
It's something that was hard for me to do even back in the film days. I would always have 5 or more 36 exposure rolls with me just for an afternoon. But it does help for the pacing of shooting, which I find the most enjoyable restriction of film. Every X number of shots requires a break to reload. Each reload can be a time to consider switching film types., call it a day or continue, etc.
Well, I just ordered the M11-D from Leica USA. Looks like they still have more in stock if anyone is looking for one.
I only have uncoded lenses at the moment, so for now, I plan to keep it that way – no M lens profiles, just keep Lens Detection set to off. I'll just shoot to SD card and only switch to internal memory if I forget to take an SD card at any point.
Why the D when I could just ignore the rear screen?
– There's nothing on the rear of the camera to damage. When the camera is on a strap over my shoulder, the LCD is always in danger of scraping across my pocket knife clipped to my pocket. I scratched the rear screen of one of my M11s that way in the past. It will be cool to set the camera down with the lens facing up sometimes. And I often travel with an M camera lens-down in my vehicle's center console cup holders, and this way there is no rear screen left facing upward either to scratch or to reflect sun back into my face (happens more than you'd think on a long trip).
– It looks like a film camera. It may be one of the nicest looking cameras I've ever seen. It's a shallow reason admittedly, but I don't care.
– Like a lot of people my age, I have great distance vision, but can't focus well at camera-holding distance close up. Using the rear LCD requires me to always be switching between readers and my sunglasses (can't handle bifocal sunglasses, they make me dizzy). So not only does the screen remove distraction, it removes that complication/temptation for me. And since the rear LCD of the M doesn't tilt anyway, throwing on the Visoflex 2 makes more sense if I want to shoot low to the ground anyway.
– I never used the FOTOS app with my previous Leicas except sometimes to make it easier to do the initial setup. I'm willing to give it a try and see how I like it. I want to see if it compliments the D experience or detracts from it. If the latter, I'll simply stop using it.
– Chimping on an M camera LCD is actually a worse thing for me than with an AF camera's LCD. I rarely double-check focus with an AF camera unless shooting portraits. With the M, I'm always obsessing over whether I got the rangefinder focus right and/or was there focus shift. I'll start focus bracketing sometimes instead. I may start shooting stopped down a little more like I would with film. I think it will change how I shoot digital.
– Trusting myself. That's the one thing I like the most about shooting a film camera, and I like how this forces me to do that.
Hi Everyone...I am new here. I am extremely tempted to buy the M11-D because of its asethetic and I never use the screen. I have a question regarding using Visoflex 2 with M11-D. When using Visoflex with M11-P, I would press the function buttom for the visoflex to go into the magnified mode. I will then focus, press the shutter and the image will return to normal size before I click. Also, I can move the cross hair around to choose where I want to magnify. So, my question with the M11-D is... am I able to punch in by pressing the function buttom or it automatically zoom in when I focus my uncoded lens ? Am I able to move the cross hair around or it only magnifies the centre area? My concern is if it activate the zoom simply because I do focusing, it will be very distracting. Lastly, will I be able to view my last image taken with the Visoflex, even though it has o playback capability with the M11-D. I use Visoflex all the time because I like to shoot wide open with vintage lens.
Thank you very much.
amagnetic2570 wrote:
Hi Everyone...I am new here. I am extremely tempted to buy the M11-D because of its asethetic and I never use the screen. I have a question regarding using Visoflex 2 with M11-D. When using Visoflex with M11-P, I would press the function buttom for the visoflex to go into the magnified mode. I will then focus, press the shutter and the image will return to normal size before I click. Also, I can move the cross hair around to choose where I want to magnify. So, my question with the M11-D is... am I able to punch in by pressing the function buttom or it automatically zoom in when I focus my uncoded lens ? Am I able to move the cross hair around or it only magnifies the centre area? My concern is if it activate the zoom simply because I do focusing, it will be very distracting. Lastly, will I be able to view my last image taken with the Visoflex, even though it has o playback capability with the M11-D. I use Visoflex all the time because I like to shoot wide open with vintage lens.
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I don't have my D yet to confirm, but it's my understanding that you can't move the focus point. What control is there to move it with since the 4-way controller is gone? I'm guessing that focus and recompose is how you'd use the Visoflex 2.
Image playback isn't possible with the Visoflex 2, but you can set your timed preference for automatic image review after the shot, either in X-seconds or persistent with shutter half-press. But once you stop seeing the review image, you can't bring it back up.
at the risk of being accused of heresy, I don't get this camera, don't see the appeal despite so many people extolling its virtues such as being a digital film camera. At the end of the day, despite those accolades, it's still a digital camera, not a film camera, but devoid of certain features which assist in the capture process. And again, this is just me, but I don't buy the "it puts me in a film frame of mind" argument in favor of it. Does that mean turning off and not using the LCD isn't sufficient to induce that frame of mind?
This is of course just my opinion, equally as valid as the gushing praise of the D. I'm not criticizing anyone who loves the D so I hope no one takes this as a slam against them.
brick33308 wrote:
at the risk of being accused of heresy, I don't get this camera, don't see the appeal despite so many people extolling its virtues such as being a digital film camera. At the end of the day, despite those accolades, it's still a digital camera, not a film camera, but devoid of certain features which assist in the capture process. And again, this is just me, but I don't buy the "it puts me in a film frame of mind" argument in favor of it. Does that mean turning off and not using the LCD isn't sufficient to induce that frame of mind?
This is of course just my opinion, equally as valid as the gushing praise of the D. I'm not criticizing anyone who loves the D so I hope no one takes this as a slam against them....Show more →
How useful would you feel the rear LCD screen was if your eyes couldn't focus well enough at that distance to read the small type on the screen or to check critical focus? For me, the LCD is useless unless I'm walking around putting on my Mr. Magoo glasses to see the LCD, taking them off to use the rangefinder, putting them back on to see the LCD, over and over... You get the idea Since the M11-D takes the Visoflex 2, that's the perfect alternative since it has a diopter.
highdesertmesa wrote:
I don't have my D yet to confirm, but it's my understanding that you can't move the focus point. What control is there to move it with since the 4-way controller is gone? I'm guessing that focus and recompose is how you'd use the Visoflex 2.
Image playback isn't possible with the Visoflex 2, but you can set your timed preference for automatic image review after the shot, either in X-seconds or persistent with shutter half-press. But once you stop seeing the review image, you can't bring it back up.
Sent mine back for an M11P exchange which is due to me tomorrow.
Let's see if they update fiasco non-formatting of SD card and internal memory at a later date. Then I might purchase again as I do not require nor use Foto app anyway for MY minimalist approach.
stgrove wrote:
Sent mine back for an M11P exchange which is due to me tomorrow.
Let's see if they update fiasco non-formatting of SD card and internal memory at a later date. Then I might purchase again as I do not require nor use Foto app anyway for MY minimalist approach.
You will love the M11P. No weird workaround required. Same lenses, same sensor, same image quality. Just control your urge to chimp images, use a small SD card to limit to 36 shots, and use the rear screen to configure and control the camera. Best of all Worlds.
The deletion of the rear screen reminds me of a Onesie suit without a crotch flap. Yes, it looks cool, but system maintenance is a real problem....
1bwana1 wrote:
You will love the M11P. No weird workaround required. Same lenses, same sensor, same image quality. Just control your urge to chimp images, use a small SD card to limit to 36 shots, and use the rear screen to configure and control the camera. Best of all Worlds.
The deletion of the rear screen reminds me of a Onesie suit without a crotch flap. Yes, it looks cool, but system maintenance is a real problem....
That's why I keep saying the original M60/M-D got it right. There's nothing to control or configure. It's basically a film camera that outputs DNG files. Just like film cameras, there's no auto-ISO either, so it's like choosing your film speed by rotating the ISO dial on the back. There's no need to worry about changing settings or even thinking about an EVF or your phone.
Just because Leica had the capability to add countless features and options to the D series doesn't mean they should have -- yet that's exactly what they did with the latest models.
Fred Miranda wrote:
That's why I keep saying the original M60/M-D got it right. There's nothing to control or configure. It's basically a film camera that outputs DNG files. Just like film cameras, there's no auto-ISO either, so it's like choosing your film speed by rotating the ISO dial on the back. There's no need to worry about changing settings or even thinking about an EVF or your phone.
These specialized editions never please everyone. They're polarizing. They provoke lots of hands thrown in the air proclamations. I'm willing to give it a try.
I have been having a frustrating conversation with a "Leica expert" at B&H who said one can format either memory of the M11D in the Foto app. When pressed hard after 4-5 exchanges, he said they tried it in the M11 and it worked so he assumed it was the same for the M11D. He also admitted that B&H has not had a demo M11D nor one to sell yet.
Under the M11D Q&A section they even have the guts of spewing back this incorrect info for their customers. This exchange has convinced me the B&H people have no clue about camera specifics.
Since the M11-D takes the Visoflex 2, that's the perfect alternative since it has a diopter.