Sony A7C II Leaked images
p.8 #1Sony A7C II Leaked images
chez wrote:
Pls look at the table below.
Does a new 61MP ‘Compact’ camera deserve the lowest of EVF specs?
You are headed there, but do you know that if your concoction is done right, your 61MP ‘Compact’ could potentially be knocking on the doors of those (wanting to / already are) shooting red dot cameras?
A7c___EVF = 2.3mp 0.39" 0.59x, LCD = 0.9mp, 509g, 24MP
A72___EVF = 2.4mp 0.50" 0.71x, LCD = 1.2mp, 555g, 24MP
A73___EVF = 2.3mp 0.50" 0.78x, LCD = 0.9mp, 650g, 24MP
A74___EVF = 3.6mp 0.50" 0.78x, LCD = 1.0mp, 658g, 33MP
A9____EVF = 3.6mp 0.50” 0.78x, LCD = 1.4mp, 588g, 24MP
A7r3a_EVF = 3.6mp 0.50" 0.78x, LCD = 2.3mp, 657g, 42MP
A7r4a_EVF = 5.7mp 0.50" 0.78x, LCD = 2.3mp, 665g, 61MP
A7r5__EVF = 9.4mp 0.64” 0.90x, LCD = 2.1mp, 723g, 61MP
A1____EVF = 9.4mp 0.64" 0.90x, LCD = 1.4mp, 737g, 50MPI always thought the A7C with slightly better specs could be an attractive alternative to Leicas.Sony goes after the mass markets leaving niches to the likes of Leica. The two really don’t compete and except for some enthusiastic members on boards like this, their audiences never cross paths.
I think the same, Sony can just do a 1:1 Leica M clone and it will just fail, like if they did the X100 clone, people who wants Leica will eventually get a Leica, and the Tiktokers don't want to be seen with a mere clone, it's X100 or nothing
chiron wrote
mojoh wrote
Dear Sony,Pls look at the table below.
Does a new 61MP ‘Compact’ camera deserve the lowest of EVF specs?
You are headed there, but do you know that if your concoction is done right, your 61MP ‘Compact’ could potentially be knocking on the doors of those (wanting to / already are) shooting red dot cameras?
A7c___EVF = 2.3mp 0.39" 0.59x, LCD = 0.9mp, 509g, 24MP
A72___EVF = 2.4mp 0.50" 0.71x, LCD = 1.2mp, 555g, 24MP
A73___EVF = 2.3mp 0.50" 0.78x, LCD = 0.9mp, 650g, 24MP
A74___EVF = 3.6mp 0.50" 0.78x, LCD = 1.0mp, 658g, 33MP
A9____EVF = 3.6mp 0.50” 0.78x, LCD = 1.4mp, 588g, 24MP
A7r3a_EVF = 3.6mp 0.50" 0.78x, LCD = 2.3mp, 657g, 42MP
A7r4a_EVF = 5.7mp 0.50" 0.78x, LCD = 2.3mp, 665g, 61MP
A7r5__EVF = 9.4mp 0.64” 0.90x, LCD = 2.1mp, 723g, 61MP
A1____EVF = 9.4mp 0.64" 0.90x, LCD = 1.4mp, 737g, 50MP
I think the same, Sony can just do a 1:1 Leica M clone and it will just fail, like if they did the X100 clone, people who wants Leica will eventually get a Leica, and the Tiktokers don't want to be seen with a mere clone, it's X100 or nothing
Aug 16, 2023 at 04:25 PM
p.8 #2Sony A7C II Leaked images
gocolts wrote:
Thinking the closest you'd get for a "budget Q3" at this point would be the rumored A7cR & the Sony 24mm 2.8 which has actually received good reviews. Not as fast and not 28mm, but you save a whole lot of $.I personally would not hesitate using the Sony 28 if one needs AF. I have many great images with the lens.Ah forgot all about that lens. I had it for awhile, decided a 24/35 combo made more sense for me. It gets some hate here but I had good luck with it as well, although I used it mainly for casual purposes vs. critical landscape work.
I use the Sony 28 for street photos. Works great for that purpose.
chez wrote
gocolts wrote
moby59 wrote
We still miss an ultrasharp sharp, modern, compact 28mm (somethind between 1.8 and 2.5) to mimic the Q3 style.I use the Sony 28 for street photos. Works great for that purpose.
Aug 16, 2023 at 04:40 PM
p.8 #3Sony A7C II Leaked images
GMPhotography wrote:
Sony 6700 body only cost me 1400 . I think that was very fair
I’m guessing A7C 33mpx at 1800 and 61mpx 2900
That’s my guess
Looks good from here on the prices.
Fair? Better than "fair." I'd bet Sony sold a lot of un-wanted and/or second 16-50s with the "body only" being scarce.
Aug 16, 2023 at 04:52 PM
p.8 #4Sony A7C II Leaked images
Good guess. I’d be all over the a7cR at that price.
GMPhotography wrote:
Sony 6700 body only cost me 1400 . I think that was very fair
I’m guessing A7C 33mpx at 1800 and 61mpx 2900
That’s my guess
GMPhotography wrote:
Sony 6700 body only cost me 1400 . I think that was very fair
I’m guessing A7C 33mpx at 1800 and 61mpx 2900
That’s my guess
Aug 16, 2023 at 06:07 PM
p.8 #5Sony A7C II Leaked images
The original A7C retailed at only $200 less than the A7III. How likely is it that the successor, which is based on the A7IV will come in at $700 less instead? I reckon it'll be $2,199 at the lowest. The A7CR will probably cross $3,000, which makes it a no go for me.
Aug 16, 2023 at 09:41 PM
p.8 #6Sony A7C II Leaked images
The A7C was 1700 on release it’s 1500 now . Not sure what a A7III has anything to do with it.
Aug 16, 2023 at 10:32 PM
p.8 #7Sony A7C II Leaked images
GMPhotography wrote:
The A7C was 1700 on release it’s 1500 now . Not sure what a A7III has anything to do with it.
I'm not sure where I lost you. If the gap between the original two (A7C & A7III) was only $200, why would an A7C II which is presumably based on the A7IV retail at $1,800, $700 less than an A7IV? There's no precedent for that sort of price disparity between the model lines.
Maybe I misunderstood your "A7C 33mpix 1800" post.
The A7C was 1700 on release it’s 1500 now . Not sure what a A7III has anything to do with it.
I'm not sure where I lost you. If the gap between the original two (A7C & A7III) was only $200, why would an A7C II which is presumably based on the A7IV retail at $1,800, $700 less than an A7IV? There's no precedent for that sort of price disparity between the model lines.
Maybe I misunderstood your "A7C 33mpix 1800" post.
Aug 16, 2023 at 11:34 PM
p.8 #8Sony A7C II Leaked images
If the A7CR is really that expensive a whole lot of people are going to wonder just how much bigger a used A7r4 is instead...
Aug 17, 2023 at 02:48 AM
p.8 #9Sony A7C II Leaked images
chez wrote:
Thinking the closest you'd get for a "budget Q3" at this point would be the rumored A7cR & the Sony 24mm 2.8 which has actually received good reviews. Not as fast and not 28mm, but you save a whole lot of $.I personally would not hesitate using the Sony 28 if one needs AF. I have many great images with the lens.Ah forgot all about that lens. I had it for awhile, decided a 24/35 combo made more sense for me. It gets some hate here but I had good luck with it as well, although I used it mainly for casual purposes vs. critical landscape work.I use the Sony 28 for street photos. Works great for that purpose.
I have had the FE28 a couple of times and if only it was sharp across the frame when stopped down I could sell my Leica Q2. I wait and hope for a decent 28mm lens for Sony but nothing seems to come which sort of surprises me seeing that it such a useful focal length and the same as the standard lens on most smart phones. Interestingly my camera Store (LCE in London) told me the other day that the Leica Q3 at over £5000 is the the most ever pre ordered camera in the companies history across all their stores
gocolts wrote
chez wrote
gocolts wrote
moby59 wrote
We still miss an ultrasharp sharp, modern, compact 28mm (somethind between 1.8 and 2.5) to mimic the Q3 style.I have had the FE28 a couple of times and if only it was sharp across the frame when stopped down I could sell my Leica Q2. I wait and hope for a decent 28mm lens for Sony but nothing seems to come which sort of surprises me seeing that it such a useful focal length and the same as the standard lens on most smart phones. Interestingly my camera Store (LCE in London) told me the other day that the Leica Q3 at over £5000 is the the most ever pre ordered camera in the companies history across all their stores
Aug 17, 2023 at 03:14 AM
p.8 #10Sony A7C II Leaked images
Viramati wrote:
Interestingly my camera Store (LCE in London) told me the other day that the Leica Q3 at over £5000 is the the most ever pre ordered camera in the companies history across all their stores
Maybe some fashion wave among stock brokers.
Interestingly my camera Store (LCE in London) told me the other day that the Leica Q3 at over £5000 is the the most ever pre ordered camera in the companies history across all their stores
Maybe some fashion wave among stock brokers.
Aug 17, 2023 at 05:37 AM
|
p.8 #11Sony A7C II Leaked images
I would guesstimate $1999 for the A7CII and $2599 for the A7CR.
Aug 17, 2023 at 05:47 AM
berimbolo
Offline
Activity
[X]
Details
p.8 #12Sony A7C II Leaked images
From SAR: A7cII for 2699 Euro and A7cR for 3599 Euro
That is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.
That is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.
Aug 17, 2023 at 06:50 AM
p.8 #13Sony A7C II Leaked images
berimbolo wrote:
From SAR: A7cII for 2699 Euro and A7cR for 3599 Euro
That is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.
Wouldn't that make the A7CR more expensive than the A7RV? Would that make sense?
Those prices would have me looking at the a6700 for $1400.
From SAR: A7cII for 2699 Euro and A7cR for 3599 Euro
That is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.
Wouldn't that make the A7CR more expensive than the A7RV? Would that make sense?
Those prices would have me looking at the a6700 for $1400.
Aug 17, 2023 at 06:56 AM
...berimbolo
Offline
Activity
[X]
Details
p.8 #15Sony A7C II Leaked images
chiron wrote:
That is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.Wouldn't that make the A7CR more expensive than the A7RV? Would that make sense?
Those prices would have me looking at the a6700 for $1400.
I'm not sure what the price is in Euros for A7RV, and how prices for european retailers are reported because (I assume?) VAT differs from country to country. If it costs within $500 of the A7RV, there is basically no reason to buy it.
berimbolo wrote
From SAR: A7cII for 2699 Euro and A7cR for 3599 EuroThat is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.
Those prices would have me looking at the a6700 for $1400.
I'm not sure what the price is in Euros for A7RV, and how prices for european retailers are reported because (I assume?) VAT differs from country to country. If it costs within $500 of the A7RV, there is basically no reason to buy it.
Aug 17, 2023 at 07:13 AM
p.8 #16Sony A7C II Leaked images
berimbolo wrote:
That is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.Wouldn't that make the A7CR more expensive than the A7RV? Would that make sense?
Those prices would have me looking at the a6700 for $1400.I'm not sure what the price is in Euros for A7RV, and how prices for european retailers are reported because (I assume?) VAT differs from country to country. If it costs within $500 of the A7RV, there is basically no reason to buy it.
European gear prices tend to be significantly higher than US prices. In a quick search on Amazon Germany, I can't find the A7RV for a comparison. But the a6700 sells, without VAT, for the equivalent of $1900. That is about 36% higher than the $1400 the camera sells for in the US. If we apply that percentage difference to the rumored A7CR price of $3960 (converting Euros to dollars), then a rough estimate of the US price for the A7CR might be $2534.
Of course, these are guesstimates and there are a lot of uncertainties and unknowns in these figures. But $2534 feels about right to me for this camera. I think that might put the A7CII at $1999 to $2199.
chiron wrote
berimbolo wrote
From SAR: A7cII for 2699 Euro and A7cR for 3599 EuroThat is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.
Those prices would have me looking at the a6700 for $1400.
European gear prices tend to be significantly higher than US prices. In a quick search on Amazon Germany, I can't find the A7RV for a comparison. But the a6700 sells, without VAT, for the equivalent of $1900. That is about 36% higher than the $1400 the camera sells for in the US. If we apply that percentage difference to the rumored A7CR price of $3960 (converting Euros to dollars), then a rough estimate of the US price for the A7CR might be $2534.
Of course, these are guesstimates and there are a lot of uncertainties and unknowns in these figures. But $2534 feels about right to me for this camera. I think that might put the A7CII at $1999 to $2199.
Aug 17, 2023 at 07:42 AM
p.8 #17Sony A7C II Leaked images
berimbolo wrote:
From SAR: A7cII for 2699 Euro and A7cR for 3599 Euro
That is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.
Assuming 18% include VAT that would make US prices, based upon these numbers, roughly $2213 for the A7Cii and $2950 for the A7Cr plus state tax, actually very close to what I guessed. With a B&H Payboo account they pay the 8.75% CA sales tax. Will wait for full reviews but a R version is in my sights.
From SAR: A7cII for 2699 Euro and A7cR for 3599 Euro
That is obviously just a rumour, and I assume the Euro price factors in VAT. If true, it seems a big expensive.
Assuming 18% include VAT that would make US prices, based upon these numbers, roughly $2213 for the A7Cii and $2950 for the A7Cr plus state tax, actually very close to what I guessed. With a B&H Payboo account they pay the 8.75% CA sales tax. Will wait for full reviews but a R version is in my sights.
Aug 17, 2023 at 07:52 AM
p.8 #18Sony A7C II Leaked images
Posted on SAR . Makes no sense to me as too much money
Possible pricing leaked: A7cII for 2699 Euro and A7cR for 3599 Euro?
So that's about 2500 for the A7C 33 mpx which today release price was 1700. They're nuts that's a 800 price increase. I could see 400 not 800. Now if im reading this correctly
I would not buy this one anyway. If anything I would go the 61mpx unit and for me there might be a chance if my 6700 can take over the runway gigs I do. It's the same 26mpx crop that I need to get a 300mm and has the feature set of the anti -flicker/varable shutter and such. Rather shoot a 1400 camera in a crowd than my A7RV for damage and theft control. I need to seriously test all that out. Plus I would rather put 40k of images per year on a 6700 the my A7Rv. I shoot mechanical shutter on this gig
These prices are not real we all know they drop the pricing on release. Why I hate rumors . We can't shoot a rumor
Possible pricing leaked: A7cII for 2699 Euro and A7cR for 3599 Euro?
So that's about 2500 for the A7C 33 mpx which today release price was 1700. They're nuts that's a 800 price increase. I could see 400 not 800. Now if im reading this correctly
I would not buy this one anyway. If anything I would go the 61mpx unit and for me there might be a chance if my 6700 can take over the runway gigs I do. It's the same 26mpx crop that I need to get a 300mm and has the feature set of the anti -flicker/varable shutter and such. Rather shoot a 1400 camera in a crowd than my A7RV for damage and theft control. I need to seriously test all that out. Plus I would rather put 40k of images per year on a 6700 the my A7Rv. I shoot mechanical shutter on this gig
These prices are not real we all know they drop the pricing on release. Why I hate rumors . We can't shoot a rumor
Aug 17, 2023 at 08:46 AM
p.8 #19Sony A7C II Leaked images
The R version sounds like my dream camera. I loved the RX1ii, and this is as close as possible.
If the grip is the same as the 6700 and they slightly change the magnification on the EVF....
Dreams may come true.
If the grip is the same as the 6700 and they slightly change the magnification on the EVF....
Dreams may come true.
Aug 17, 2023 at 09:00 AM
p.8 #20Sony A7C II Leaked images
DFason wrote:
The R version sounds like my dream camera. I loved the RX1ii, and this is as close as possible.
If the grip is the same as the 6700 and they slightly change the magnification on the EVF....
Dreams may come true.
IF all true I would love to see a true image of three models comparing the sizing of like the 6700/A7C and A7rv. That would be interesting and I bet fairly close too.
BTW the 6700 grip is really nice
The R version sounds like my dream camera. I loved the RX1ii, and this is as close as possible.
If the grip is the same as the 6700 and they slightly change the magnification on the EVF....
Dreams may come true.
IF all true I would love to see a true image of three models comparing the sizing of like the 6700/A7C and A7rv. That would be interesting and I bet fairly close too.
BTW the 6700 grip is really nice
Aug 17, 2023 at 09:05 AM