p.7 #1 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
GMPhotography wrote:
Okay I get it but don’t you still get movement. I guess I used Helicon focus and real sensitive to movement. Can we not still do it with other cams run a 5fps second burst and focus out at same time. I’m a workaround person
You might get some movement but the slightly out-of-register images are fairly easy to reconcile, especially with Photoshop's stacking automation. For me anyway, it's small price to pay for the flexibility of being able to handhold (with a single hand) some very unusual compositions, or compositions where an ocean wave is about to submerge your camera unless you withdraw the camera fast enough.
As of now, I use two hands to wind through the focus ring while shooting at 10FPS. Works OK but I'd love for this be a one-handed operation (that would also reduce out-of-register problems in the focus-stacked images).
My overall point is that this is an easy thing for Sony to add. Nikon had it in the D850 but it was very clunky. Canon has it in their R cameras and it is extremely well implemented. Sony has all the pieces in place to build a software solution for almost all of its existing cameras.
p.7 #3 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
It’s weird. You’re not wrong about his review. And you’re probably right about my word choice, And yet I don’t think I’m wrong either because I watched the whole thing and he didn’t glow about it during the segments and he focused on shortcomings. But perhaps that’s the style of review—knock it down and then build it up at the end. Shrugs. Anyway if you asked me based on what I know about sideline shooters, the a7r line isn’t their first choice. I don’t see why that would change with the a7rV.
timgangloff wrote:
Well near the end he did say "it's probably shaping up to be my favorite photo camera of all time" except for maybe the A1 and when he factors in the price difference, "it wins by a mile."
I'd suggest that's pretty high praise. He does go on to say it's not as good as the a1 and more expensive then the a74, but it's "technically excellent" and he personally "loves it." I'd suggest your "not glowing" remark is a bit harsher than what his summation. Yes, most pro's would probably love the A1 instead, but for many, it's not in the budget. And the FX series...well I've never seen one on a football or basketball sideline. They are much too video centric for hybrid shooters. ...Show more →
p.7 #4 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
I shoot jewelry/product and landscape primarily with the a7r4. It's an excellent camera for these areas. I really want to see a comparison of the image quality between the R4 and the R5 and see if there is a worthwhile improvement. Actually DXO rates the R3 sensor higher than the R4.
I would appreciate the focus stacking ability....I use it for some jewelry clients through external software at the moment....in camera would be nice.
If Sony could come up with in camera pixel shift processing like the the Hi-Res mode in the Panasonic s1r, I would be really impressed. The s1r outputs a 187mp raw DNG file with incredible detail at 55" on the long side. Now that is a landscape photographer's dream.
I'll wait until more complete testing of the raw image quality compared to the R4 is available before deciding if I will upgrade.
p.7 #5 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
I never thought I would say this again after denying myself the possibility of acquiring an A7R4. I will stay a few more years with my A7R3 and maybe switch to an A1 mark II to have it all in one body and a good old horse as a backup.
p.7 #6 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Hmm, I just checked DPR initial review: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-a7rv-initial-review
and their multishot example (28mm, f/9, 1/400s) shows some artifacts around the edges when pixel-peeping. Not scene movement artifacts, but the same thing that happens on previous cameras when the camera is not perfectly still. That's disappointing IMHO if it's still not really usable when handheld...
Edit: It was actually shot off a tripod.
Edit#2: It's actually a lot more usable now, so I guess DPR used an old version of ImagingEdge, as I don't see the artifacts on the new one: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1780232
p.7 #7 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
The IBIS + AF + EVF + IQ + no selfie screen combo looks quite attractive. Not at all my market, but I am very curious if this base ISO DR rV can catch the Canon r3, m11 or even a7r3.
Seems like lots of fancy stuff (which does look very well implemented), but how about a real bump in IQ? This is aimed at landscapers after all. Someone please actual DR test/data when available please
Still just hoping for a marginally improved a7c ii and I’ll be happy
p.7 #8 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
nehemiahphoto wrote:
The IBIS + AF + EVF + IQ + no selfie screen combo looks quite attractive. Not at all my market, but I am very curious if this base ISO DR rV can catch the Canon r3, m11 or even a7r3.
Seems like lots of fancy stuff (which does look very well implemented), but how about a real bump in IQ? This is aimed at landscapers after all. Someone please actual DR test/data when available please
Still just hoping for a marginally improved a7c ii and I’ll be happy
I can't see it being much different from the RIV, though wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong
Unless I'm reading the numbers wrong, all those cameras have functional similar DR.
p.7 #9 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Arka wrote:
You might get some movement but the slightly out-of-register images are fairly easy to reconcile, especially with Photoshop's stacking automation. For me anyway, it's small price to pay for the flexibility of being able to handhold (with a single hand) some very unusual compositions, or compositions where an ocean wave is about to submerge your camera unless you withdraw the camera fast enough.
As of now, I use two hands to wind through the focus ring while shooting at 10FPS. Works OK but I'd love for this be a one-handed operation (that would also reduce out-of-register problems in the focus-stacked images).
My overall point is that this is an easy thing for Sony to add. Nikon had it in the D850 but it was very clunky. Canon has it in their R cameras and it is extremely well implemented. Sony has all the pieces in place to build a software solution for almost all of its existing cameras.
I'll be interested to see how Sony has done with this implementation...I await some detailed user reports. Add that to the a properly modern Bulb mode and those are meaningful improvements for me.
EDIT: Just read Albert's hands on (https://www.albertdros.com/post/the-new-a7rv) and he goes through the procedure and shares some images. Sounds very straight forward. Looks like a nice addition!
p.7 #13 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Fred Miranda wrote:
From the responses so far, the new A7R V does not seem exciting enough to entice current Sony shooters to upgrade. Perhaps that will change?
if so, maybe they’ll drop the price, or provide very competitive upgrade programs….
p.7 #14 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
The specs release I read earlier on Dpreview was wrong, it does have a 0.9 magnification on the EVF.
It has checked all the boxes for me, I can't think there is anything else I would have wanted. Now I just have to purchase one, I don't have a rush but within 9-12 months I will probably pick one up.
p.7 #15 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
pjmsj21 wrote:
Looking at your images posted on Flickr. the A7RII is far from limiting your ability to produce some beautiful images!
Why Thank You.. It does do the job that my mind envisioned.. With my recent acquisitions of several Voigtlander lens I am making the best of what I have.
p.7 #16 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
OK, I understand that people are not blown away by any particular feature in this release, but this is where the industry is at this point. In aggregate, I think this will be a very solid upgrade over most other cameras:
- WB improvements
- New processor will improve operations and handling speed (big for me)
- New AF (accuracy, speed, AI, etc - that is not to like?)
- Updated EVF and monitor - finally changing from the 1.1mp back screen
- Full touch menu
- Tilt+flip screen - again, what is not to like?
- Focus bracketing - I have never used it, but looking forward to
- new gen IBIS
- compressed RAW options
- video specs
- etc, etc, etc
Add it all up, the pleasure of using a responsive camera with great EVF+screen, I think it will do very well.
p.7 #18 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
for someone with a9 looking to upgrade for wildlife, is there any reason to get the a7r5 over a1? used a1 is only about $1k more expensive. i can't see anything in the feature list that makes this camera better than a1 for wildlife aside from slightly more mp.
does anyone expect the AI AF to actually function better than a1? it wasnt clear from mark galer's review.
p.7 #19 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
kooshball wrote:
for someone with a9 looking to upgrade for wildlife, is there any reason to get the a7r5 over a1? used a1 is only about $1k more expensive. i can't see anything in the feature list that makes this camera better than a1 for wildlife aside from slightly more mp.
does anyone expect the AI AF to actually function better than a1? it wasnt clear from mark galer's review.
If the promo video is true, then it's a different kind of AF.
AI AF in A7RV has more types of objects defined that it can recognize, e.g. when there's a busy/blurry scene it has a chance of picking up a human silhouette (as it can identify arms, torso, legs, etc.). A1 needs to be pointed to that in order to start tracking it reliably (or at least that's my understanding, because it can only recognize face / eye). A similar example is given regarding shooting something heavy backlit, A1 struggles here as any other camera,while A7RV should have a higher chance of detecting the blurred shape as some kind of object it recognizes.
Now, once the target is locked I think A1 will retain its advantage in tracking pretty clearly (+ prediction/dynamic movement).
