p.6 #1 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Meh not impressed....pass. I am happy with my R4.
That new menu is a mess. Same sensor, minor upgrades that we have to wait to see how really good they are. That AI focus can be all over the place as gerald showed yet its probably a welcome upgrade. Probably will need a firmware to improve. I am primarily interested to know the low ISO noise performance is to the R4. And I want to see the focus bracketing in action. And that pixel shift.
p.6 #4 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
GMPhotography wrote:
Focus bracketing this one has me . So let’s say you setup from near and far than hit the button and wham is goes but outside the box in software. Can we not do manual focused images and just stick that in the software.
I'm 100% sure DoF bracketing can be done in software, and could certainly be packaged in a firmware update to existing cameras. I'm also reasonably certain Sony won't do it - why offer that? It's just another reason to not upgrade your camera, right?
I've seen that 10FPS focus stacking trick on the Canon R5 and really like it. Not enough to get a Canon but certainly enough to make me wonder why Sony hadn't addressed that feature disparity long ago.
p.6 #5 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
sismailian wrote:
Meh not impressed....pass. I am happy with my R4.
That new menu is a mess. Same sensor, minor upgrades that we have to wait to see how really good they are. That AI focus can be all over the place as gerald showed yet its probably a welcome upgrade. Probably will need a firmware to improve. I am primarily interested to know the low ISO noise performance is to the R4. And I want to see the focus bracketing in action. And that pixel shift.
The new menu is still overly-complicated Sony style, but it's' a BIG improvement over the old one. I've gotten so used to it that it's painful to go back from my A1 to the A7RIV. As for the AI focus, even imperfect its better than the nothing in that department on the RIV. Once you've used one of the newer cameras with it like the A1 and the A7V you'll wonder how you lived without it.
p.6 #6 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
MNPNW wrote:
On the 1a7RIV, if I turn the SS dial all the way towards the slowest SS, Bulb shows up after 30 seconds.
I believe the a7RIII does this too.
Bulb shows up only if you have single shot drive mode and mechanical shutter which I often do not have.
p.6 #8 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
GMPhotography wrote:
So we really have few details but a few question marks stand out Pixel Shift correction is in Post if I’m reading correctly so what makes it special if the IV can do it then go to post. What’s in the V that will do this only
Focus bracketing this one has me . So let’s say you setup from near and far than hit the button and wham is goes but outside the box in software. Can we not do manual focused images and just stick that in the software.
I guess the real question on both of these is we do it today in software what’s the difference with the body that makes it possible.
Maybe I’m missing something but I’m the king of a workaround. Where really are the handcuffs here that are stopping me. This part has yet to be explained but it keeps smelling of software and that would mean to me that we could be the engine here not the camera...Show more →
If the camera is moving fixed amounts with each number setting for focus steps, then it massively simplifies some of the mathematics of good stacking because you have a lot of useful data and very precise steps.
p.6 #9 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Arka wrote:
I'm 100% sure DoF bracketing can be done in software, and could certainly be packaged in a firmware update to existing cameras. I'm also reasonably certain Sony won't do it - why offer that? It's just another reason to not upgrade your camera, right?
I've seen that 10FPS focus stacking trick on the Canon R5 and really like it. Not enough to get a Canon but certainly enough to make me wonder why Sony hadn't addressed that feature disparity long ago.
Yea just more marketing talk. I just wonder why so many keep asking for an automated process. You still waste time setting that up from close to far. I did this with tech cams and we guessed at distances and without seeing. Lol
p.6 #10 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
jhapeman wrote:
The new menu is still overly-complicated Sony style, but it's' a BIG improvement over the old one. I've gotten so used to it that it's painful to go back from my A1 to the A7RIV. As for the AI focus, even imperfect its better than the nothing in that department on the RIV. Once you've used one of the newer cameras with it like the A1 and the A7V you'll wonder how you lived without it.
I've never seen a camera menu that wasn't overly complicated. No one brand is better than another, it's more a matter of familiarity. The old Sony menu, the one that is on my RII, is pretty asinine, though. The new menus are better. Perfect? Of course not, but no worse than Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Olympus...
p.6 #11 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
GMPhotography wrote:
Yea just more marketing talk. I just wonder why so many keep asking for an automated process. You still waste time setting that up from close to far. I did this with tech cams and we guessed at distances and without seeing. Lol
The automated process is way easier, that's why people keep asking for it
After setting in camera, stacking is a simple import and combine in your software of choice.
p.6 #12 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
GMPhotography wrote:
Yea just more marketing talk. I just wonder why so many keep asking for an automated process. You still waste time setting that up from close to far. I did this with tech cams and we guessed at distances and without seeing. Lol
I find that when working in the field shooting landscapes from weird perspectives where focus stacks will be necessary, it's super helpful to just gather a handheld 10FPS burst that has every DoF bracket in it. That way you can handhold and avoid the hassle of setting a tripod that in just the right way to capture a really odd angle. On the Canons, I noted that the setup for the DoF bracket is super-quick. I see no reason Sony couldn't do that in software.
p.6 #13 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Looks decent to me, but without 4K 120, I’m not sure how this is better than a Canon EOS R5 for my purposes. Both have great image quality, great focusing, great EVF, etc. etc.
(The new rear screen looks nice, but still low rez??)
p.6 #14 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Okay I get it but don’t you still get movement. I guess I used Helicon focus and real sensitive to movement. Can we not still do it with other cams run a 5fps second burst and focus out at same time. I’m a workaround person
p.6 #15 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
sismailian wrote:
Meh not impressed....pass. I am happy with my R4.
That new menu is a mess. Same sensor, minor upgrades that we have to wait to see how really good they are. That AI focus can be all over the place as gerald showed yet its probably a welcome upgrade. Probably will need a firmware to improve. I am primarily interested to know the low ISO noise performance is to the R4. And I want to see the focus bracketing in action. And that pixel shift.
Sensor is the same resolution, but seems to be performing quite a bit better as to noise and dynamic range and such 👍.
p.6 #18 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Yes.. and when RVI is out, RV becomes blury too..
Susurus wrote:
It’s kind of funny how they compare the camera to the previous R IV, showing that R IV produces blurry, OOF images in comparison scenes. Seems a bit strange strategy puttting previous model in such a position.
p.6 #20 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
I'm a little disappointed in all of you. I had hoped to find the buy and sell full of screaming deals on your old, outdated cameras this morning. Yet here you are, not spending $4,000 like the nice marketing folks at Sony want you to.
