p.8 #1 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Fred Miranda wrote:
From the responses so far, the new A7R V does not seem exciting enough to entice current Sony shooters to upgrade. Perhaps that will change?
Yeah, give it time. People will need it to get over their ideas of what the camera could've (or should've, in their opinions) been and accept it for what it is. Sony will have their typical firmware quirks to work through, but once the early adopters start chatting up their favorite new features (the tri-resolution-like capabilities of the different compressions, the put it where you want it LCD screen, the improved EVF, AF, and IBIS, the huge buffer, the improved video functions) more people will come around. Sony's taken their best landscape camera and made it more useful in more shooting situations, and that will find an audience.
That said, we're at a point, both in available technology and global economics, where evolutionary upgrades aren't going to light the photography world on fire like they used to. Higher camera prices and longer product cycles with a greater focus on filling in holes in the lens lines (like a long macro to make the insect AF really exciting) will be the norm.
p.8 #3 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Cool features and would love to look through that EVF but...I don't like that the body got bigger. 1 good thing about the new body for me is that I just picked up an a7riv for cheap on the boards.
p.8 #8 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
And it would be a mistake to pigeonhole the early Sonys purely as 'landscape cameras', when they singlehandedly revolutionised low light photography, travel photography and alternative lens photography - to list just a few areas. They are far from irrelevant or obsolete because of their enduring core qualities.
The new camera's specs mimic computer gamer specs (faster/better/ XYZ processors!), but with added humour, like: 'Insect/Car/Train recognition also available'. Now there's a needy demographic for you.
p.8 #9 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
jeffbuzz wrote:
The a7RM3 to a7RM4 improvements were more significant to me. The M4 still seems like a good deal for landscape or studio work.
I need to trial it to see if the new AF and screen make a big difference for my work. If the AI AF is really a significant than it will truly be a nice upgrade. Too soon for me to know.
p.8 #12 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
REBATES = what canon is sorta doing now. Sorry, some folks hand off money too easy...Vote with your wallet fella. Don't make excuses for sony - figure out how to punch through the baloney guy
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"In a global supply chain, that's largely irrelevant; most of their components will be priced in American $'s according to supplier agreements."
EDIT: Should also note that these would've been spec'd, priced, and agreed to quite a while ago.
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p.8 #13 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
rdcny wrote:
still too much $s for this new Sony camera - the Yen has tanked against the dollar. $2995
after accounting for inflation, the a7rv is actually cheaper than the a7riv was in 2019.
p.8 #15 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, there are some nice new features, especially in regards to AF tracking and IBIS. Finally focus bracketing!
Who is getting one? :-)
I thought about it then I realised another glacially slow sensor with huge rolling shutter, large video crops, same EVF res drop in use as now. AI AF might be nice, but sans ES no thanks. Second hand A1 still the only Sony camera now worth buying IMO if you do all types of shooting.
p.8 #16 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Aztatlan wrote:
Pretty unexciting upgrade over the R IV, for me. But I pretty much only shoot landscapes.
Yeah I thought the same about RIV over RIII too. I had high hopes this would finally be. much faster sensor but alas no. So I keep saving my pennies for A1.
p.8 #17 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Pixel Perfect wrote:
Yeah I thought the same about RIV over RIII too. I had high hopes this would finally be. much faster sensor but alas no. So I keep saving my pennies for A1.
The RIV had some more tangible upgrades over the III for landscape at least, like higher MP sensor. I paid $3300 AUD for my R IV a few months ago (new), looks like the R V is launching at $5900 AUD or so. No regrets there!
p.8 #18 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
My thoughts from the other thread…
Sony is extremely timid when they iterate (see R2>R5 and A9>A9ii especially).
They seem to prioritize reusing old parts where they can, and they have a tendency to frankenstein physical features leading to many one-off bodies that have a mish-mash of physical controls vs unified generation of varying internal abilities.
It's sort of like the A1 showing up with the dire rear LCD when it should have been standardized with the better flippy screen from the A7Siii and A74. It was such a boneheaded choice that I determined that although the A1 checked literally every other box for me, I'd never buy for that reason alone.
Sony should be lauded for adding focus stacking and bulb...however, they should have done it YEARS ago and only did just now because they are suddenly feeling pressure from the flagship of one of the big 3. It reminds of me of Sony not updating the R3 firmware to support a red AF box when there was literally no technical reason for it. They saved it as an asinine reason to upgrade to the R4.
Overall a camera that doesn’t make a ton of sense in the Sony lineup, and feels like a camera they felt they had to release instead of one they wanted to. It’s full of compromises in a market where Sony’s competitors are throwing the kitchen sinks at their flagships.
p.8 #19 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Not getting rid of an A1 for this as a wildlife and landscape shooter. There are a couple things I hope to see in the A1 but doubt they can or will happen in firmware updates.
Focus stacking
Improved IBIS
Bulb mode timer
Animal eye AF in video
New screen looks nice. Shooting landscapes in portrait orientation close to the ground is a pain.
p.8 #20 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
RoamingScott wrote:
My thoughts from the other thread…
Sony is extremely timid when they iterate (see R2>R5 and A9>A9ii especially).
They seem to prioritize reusing old parts where they can, and they have a tendency to frankenstein physical features leading to many one-off bodies that have a mish-mash of physical controls vs unified generation of varying internal abilities.
It's sort of like the A1 showing up with the dire rear LCD when it should have been standardized with the better flippy screen from the A7Siii and A74. It was such a boneheaded choice that I determined that although the A1 checked literally every other box for me, I'd never buy for that reason alone.
Sony should be lauded for adding focus stacking and bulb...however, they should have done it YEARS ago and only did just now because they are suddenly feeling pressure from the flagship of one of the big 3. It reminds of me of Sony not updating the R3 firmware to support a red AF box when there was literally no technical reason for it. They saved it as an asinine reason to upgrade to the R4.
Overall a camera that doesn’t make a ton of sense in the Sony lineup, and feels like a camera they felt they had to release instead of one they wanted to. It’s full of compromises in a market where Sony’s competitors are throwing the kitchen sinks at their flagships. ...Show more →
I think you have a point here Scott.
When I look at what Nikon's latest few free firmware updates offered Z9 users, compared to the non hardware related upgrades to the A7RV, I think Nikon is giving more compelling upgrades to there Z9 camera for free than Sony is when iterating the A7Rx body at a nearly $4K price. I really hope that Sony follows Nikon's lead in this area and gives us some meaninful feature upgrades to the A1.
Still, I see nothing in either the Z9, or the A7RV that has me thinking of moving from the A1. It remains competitive at the top of the technology race, and has a form factor that pushes it over the top for me.
