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p.34 #1 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


Happy Birthday GM! I bought you a new A7RV for your special day, should get it any time now

I knew how much you were agonizing over A1 vs A7RV so I just made it easier for you



Dec 05, 2022 at 04:25 PM
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p.34 #2 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


Love ya bud. Thanks

Obviously the whole point was missed on the A7IV use.



Dec 05, 2022 at 04:30 PM
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p.34 #3 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


nhsonyshooter wrote:
It's not worth your time!


I know and know you get it.



Dec 05, 2022 at 04:32 PM
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p.34 #4 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


GMPhotography wrote:
Bottom line there still is no perfect camera the A1 is very close the A1II might get us there. Im 66 TODAY how much time do any of us have.


Hi Guy,

Happy Birthday.

Rich





Dec 05, 2022 at 04:50 PM
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p.34 #5 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


RoamingScott wrote:
I'd suspect that nearly everyone that bought an A1 who would remotely consider the A7Rv as a replacement isn't pushing the A1 to its max, and that using the highest end capabilities of it are edge cases for them.

I also suspect that many people making this trade down are going to forget how brutal a slow reading sensor is for certain shooting, and how annoying blackout can be. Hope they don't sell their A1s first


This is part of reason I would not sell my A1 and instead sold my A7RIV. I know the A7RV will be a better version of the IV in many respects so that was an easy decision. I always loved the files produced with my RIV and from what I have seen from early reviewers is the RV looks to have made some improvements with updated processing power. I do love the A1 for many reasons but not for the 10+ fps high speed shooting. I rarely need more than 7-10 fps. But I do want to give the new RV a good trial run to see if the overall feel and responsiveness is adequate enough to replace the A1 and make it my main camera or keep it as a special use large print making Landscape, Portrait and Travel camera. I really don't care either way I'm just looking for the best tool for my style shooting. I'm excited to see how it goes.



Dec 05, 2022 at 05:20 PM
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p.34 #6 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


Sorry if someone already linked this. I found it interesting. Basically saying if you need silent,30 fps or faster mechanical shutter, go A1 (2600 more) but for everything else RV. The AF testing between the 2 was interesting. Made sense though. Faster does not mean more accurate in all scenarios. A1 needs more calculations to do 30FPS. But when you don't need 30FPS the AF on the RV is actually better because of the additional hardware it appears.

jump to 5:52




Dec 05, 2022 at 07:13 PM
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p.34 #7 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)



Seems within the margin of error...

https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Sony%20ILCE-7RM4,Sony%20ILCE-7RM5





Dec 05, 2022 at 07:22 PM
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p.34 #8 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


tsdevine wrote:
Seems within the margin of error...

https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Sony%20ILCE-7RM4,Sony%20ILCE-7RM5



When these items are overlayed if one is higher/lower than the other what does that mean?



Dec 05, 2022 at 07:47 PM
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p.34 #9 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)



Higher is better dynamic range, same is same, this is the difference between the a7R IV and a7R V. But these are so close it's with the margin of measurement error.

Dultimate wrote:
When these items are overlayed if one is higher/lower than the other what does that mean?





Dec 05, 2022 at 07:49 PM
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p.34 #10 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


Well, I was comparing it with the RIII, which there seems to be a difference there. The RIII seems to be the benchmark camera for Sony fans. Plus, I skipped the RIV.

I am hoping for better processing with the RV and a little improvement in the DR from the RIII, which I had.



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p.34 #11 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


tsdevine wrote:
Higher is better dynamic range, same is same, this is the difference between the a7R IV and a7R V. But these are so close it's with the margin of measurement error.



If you you also add the A7RIII you can see in what regions the RV out performs it like below ISO 320 and then again above 6400 it appears. Since so many like the image quality of the RIII I thought I would point that out.



Dec 05, 2022 at 08:01 PM
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p.34 #12 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


Dultimate wrote:
The 1k-1.5k difference in price that you would pay for the A1 is not an insignificant amount. The enthusiast on this board is obsessed with speed and stacked sensors but that is not the end all be all of photography.


There's some good deals on the A1 because it's been out for a while though, I know here in the UK I can get the price difference between the A1 and A7R5 down to roughly $600 (even less than that once you factor in tax back between the two).

Unfortunately as much as I'd like to take advantage of those savings, I have no real need for a stacked sensor and I'd end up regretting it over an A7R5.



Dec 05, 2022 at 08:02 PM
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p.34 #13 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


Sure, it seems like they would all be within the margin ofd error.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66677819

But I'm happy the a7R V is the slightly higher one.

swldstn wrote:
If you you also add the A7RIII you can see in what regions the RV out performs it like below ISO 320 and then again above 6400 it appears. Since so many like the image quality of the RIII I thought I would point that out.





Dec 05, 2022 at 08:06 PM
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p.34 #14 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


The stickiness, accuracy, and distance of the eye tracking on the 7RM5 is just next level.


Dec 05, 2022 at 08:33 PM
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patotts wrote:
The stickiness, accuracy, and distance of the eye tracking on the 7RM5 is just next level.


That’s much more important to me than tracking at 30fps.



Dec 05, 2022 at 08:58 PM
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p.34 #16 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


nhsonyshooter wrote:
Sorry if someone already linked this. I found it interesting. Basically saying if you need silent,30 fps or faster mechanical shutter, go A1 (2600 more) but for everything else RV. The AF testing between the 2 was interesting. Made sense though. Faster does not mean more accurate in all scenarios. A1 needs more calculations to do 30FPS. But when you don't need 30FPS the AF on the RV is actually better because of the additional hardware it appears.

jump to 5:52



Couple things besides the flip floppy screen. Okay nice but it don’t make images but a more sticky AF system is a real plus when subjects are turning on you or moving fast and such. I think this maybe it’s best feature over anything for that matter that one is exciting. I did not get into feature sets on previous post but they are very intriguing. I bought the A1 for silent shutter and saving a mechanical shutter from wearing out when you’re punching big numbers of images. For ME maybe saying screw it it’s far cheaper to absolutely beat up a 2300 camera instead and get 1-2 years out of it donate it charity and get a tax right off save the big cam for other shooting. I did not consider that until I got the A7IV. Certainly a thought. I honestly think this cam fits and exceeds maybe 94 percent of Sony shooters.

BTW shooting the A1 in silent is not easy the blackout is a catch 22 sometimes you can’t see yourself shooting. It’s hard to see that blink. All the setting I tried to see it still are hard to see. Granted some of it can be shooting fatigued. I may shoot 2k without a real break



Dec 05, 2022 at 09:04 PM
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p.34 #17 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


I do find it interesting that they still have stock after pre orders.


Dec 05, 2022 at 09:12 PM
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p.34 #18 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


GMPhotography wrote:
Birds don't pay...


Maybe not for you... but a lot of people have made a decent living shooting birds and wildlife over the years.



Dec 05, 2022 at 09:20 PM
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p.34 #19 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


There's a poster in here that said he placed his order a week after preorder was opened and his order was shipped today. Doesn't seem to be any kind of backlog. Looks like anyone that wants one is going to be able to get one.


Dec 05, 2022 at 09:23 PM
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p.34 #20 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


They don’t pay directly.

Obviously a joke



Dec 05, 2022 at 09:25 PM
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