Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
p.7 #1Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
nandadevieast wrote:
I am really excited about this a7C line and the lenses they hinted they want to make for it. If we end up having a separate set of small zooms and primes for C series, it will be all i can ask for. I have no doubt a7C is a commercial success for them. I also like that it came at a juncture when their AF etc has matured a lot and they are on their 4th gen bodies.
It's going to be amazing one day, as it is now, a lot to be desired. A1c...... make it happen sony
I am really excited about this a7C line and the lenses they hinted they want to make for it. If we end up having a separate set of small zooms and primes for C series, it will be all i can ask for. I have no doubt a7C is a commercial success for them. I also like that it came at a juncture when their AF etc has matured a lot and they are on their 4th gen bodies.
realVivek wrote
I think all the rumored ones will have a 40.5mm filter.It's going to be amazing one day, as it is now, a lot to be desired. A1c...... make it happen sony
Mar 19, 2021 at 03:07 PM
p.7 #2Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
As a 40 CF owner who wanted to get a smaller lens that had better AF in low-light... might sell the CF for the 40 G.
Guess it's between this and the 35 GM for me atm. To be fair, the 40 G is going to need to be very impressive at that f-stop. If it were a 35mm f1.8 G, that'd be a definite first choice. The only reason I'm considering this against the GM is that I know sometimes I won't want to take my camera out with the GM if I have to participate in kiddo management
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I could maybe print some high ISO photos at a lower size or buy Topaz for their denoise tech... if the AF is good, especially in low lighting. Still probably going to get the 35 GM, but I've been using the 40 CF for a long time locked onto f2.5 anyway. Having a lens with a comparable image, but improved AF performance and in a vastly superior form factor could be an even better solution for me... if this lens impresses.
Guess it's between this and the 35 GM for me atm. To be fair, the 40 G is going to need to be very impressive at that f-stop. If it were a 35mm f1.8 G, that'd be a definite first choice. The only reason I'm considering this against the GM is that I know sometimes I won't want to take my camera out with the GM if I have to participate in kiddo management
. I could maybe print some high ISO photos at a lower size or buy Topaz for their denoise tech... if the AF is good, especially in low lighting. Still probably going to get the 35 GM, but I've been using the 40 CF for a long time locked onto f2.5 anyway. Having a lens with a comparable image, but improved AF performance and in a vastly superior form factor could be an even better solution for me... if this lens impresses.
Mar 19, 2021 at 03:35 PM
p.7 #3Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
Steve Spencer wrote:
I would hope for 49mm or 52mm filters and under 300g for a small lens.
400g with a 67mm filter is not something I consider small. But I am sure I am not the target market.At the reported apertures, they better be less than 200g and one would think a 49mm filter.
Looking at the Tamron trio of wide primes, Sigma I-series and the Sony 35/2.8, my guess is for filter size and weight
24/2.8, 55mm and 230g
40/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 150g
50/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 200g
The domed hood of the 35/2.8 ZA does have a 40.5mm thread and so does the 28-60/4-5.6.
Will they have aperture rings? If they’re intended for A7c with fewer wheels, then perhaps, I guess.
WestTexas Sky wrote
Small primes would be great. But are we talking Sony 35/2.8 small or Sony 20/1.8 small?I would hope for 49mm or 52mm filters and under 300g for a small lens.
400g with a 67mm filter is not something I consider small. But I am sure I am not the target market.
Looking at the Tamron trio of wide primes, Sigma I-series and the Sony 35/2.8, my guess is for filter size and weight
24/2.8, 55mm and 230g
40/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 150g
50/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 200g
The domed hood of the 35/2.8 ZA does have a 40.5mm thread and so does the 28-60/4-5.6.
Will they have aperture rings? If they’re intended for A7c with fewer wheels, then perhaps, I guess.
Mar 19, 2021 at 03:35 PM
p.7 #4Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
Love me some flapjacks but these are a yawn for me.
Hope BIG things are to come, specifically improved Sony long glass.
Hope BIG things are to come, specifically improved Sony long glass.
Mar 19, 2021 at 03:35 PM
p.7 #5Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
If these are really compact there will be no room for an aperture ring, focus ring, and button. Unless one or all are miniaturised. Which will give?
Mar 19, 2021 at 04:56 PM
p.7 #6Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
I'd be quite happy with a compact 40/2.5 AF lens that was very very good wide open and excellent across the frame at f/4 or f/5.6 with nice sun stars and no ghosting issues.
Do we think it will really be f/2.5? Seems like it could be a typo as f/2.5 is very close to looking like f/2.8.
Makes the case for the A7C even stronger for me.
Do we think it will really be f/2.5? Seems like it could be a typo as f/2.5 is very close to looking like f/2.8.
Makes the case for the A7C even stronger for me.
Mar 19, 2021 at 05:41 PM
p.7 #7Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
DavidBM wrote:
If these are really compact there will be no room for an aperture ring, focus ring, and button. Unless one or all are miniaturised. Which will give?
I would think no aperture ring like on the Sony 35/2.8.
I'm fine with that.
If these are really compact there will be no room for an aperture ring, focus ring, and button. Unless one or all are miniaturised. Which will give?
I would think no aperture ring like on the Sony 35/2.8.
I'm fine with that.
Mar 19, 2021 at 05:43 PM
p.7 #8Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
jhinkey wrote:
I would think no aperture ring like on the Sony 35/2.8.
I'm fine with that.
So you think button but no ring? The 2.8/35 had neither, but no G lens has had neither.
That'd be my guess. I'd personally prefer ring but no button. I like rings, and having lenses without them means I have to switch between two ways of working. But that's just me.
DavidBM wrote
If these are really compact there will be no room for an aperture ring, focus ring, and button. Unless one or all are miniaturised. Which will give?I'm fine with that.
So you think button but no ring? The 2.8/35 had neither, but no G lens has had neither.
That'd be my guess. I'd personally prefer ring but no button. I like rings, and having lenses without them means I have to switch between two ways of working. But that's just me.
Mar 19, 2021 at 06:30 PM
p.7 #9Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
Can’t wait to see them. Really looking forward to the treatment. As others have suggested: aperture rings, no rings, custom buttons, none... good times.
Mar 19, 2021 at 07:28 PM
p.7 #10Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
Sony will have to make some choices like Sigma has done with the I-series, where the lenses have got an aperture ring at the expense of a focus hold button. I think it’s hard to say if Sony will go for a focus hold button or an aperture ring. I would sort of like both, but will have to be content with whichever decision Sony makes here. However, I think it would be advantageous, if these lenses operate the same way as the Sigma I-series lenses. Then they could all be used more interchangeably.
I prefer a rounded aperture, so I hope for a nine or eleven blade rounded diaphragm.
I prefer a rounded aperture, so I hope for a nine or eleven blade rounded diaphragm.
Mar 19, 2021 at 08:32 PM
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p.7 #11Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
I'd like a 200 f2.8 g and a 300 f4 g both would be nice lenses indeed maybe a 400 f5.6.
Tony Ross wrote:
Sony 20 f/1.8G
Sony 24 f/1.4 GM; new Sony 24G
Sony 28 f/2
Sony 35 f/1.4 GM; Sony 35 f/1.8
new Sony 40G
Sony 50 f/1.2 GM; new Sony 50G; Sony 50 f/1.8; Sony 50 f/2.8 Macro
Sony 85 f/1.4 GM; Sony 85 f/1.8
Sony 90 f/2.8 G Macro
Sony 100 f/2.8 GM STF
Sony 135 f/1.8 GM
Not to beat a dead horse but every one of these focal lengths has a G or GM lens (which have all been very good to excellent designs) except for 28mm, and it is not as if the 28 f/2 was one of the best non G or GM lenses either. Please Sony give us a good 28mm.
In fact, if I were rating what I would still like to see from Sony that good 28mm would top my list. Followed by a 100, I would love a 100 f/2 G, but a 100 f/1.4 GM would be an interesting lens too. I think Sony really needs a longer macro as well--either a 150 or 180; then a bunch of longer lenses and finally a set of tilt/shift lenses would round out Sony's offerings well.The other lenses Sony is missing is on the longer end like the 200 f2.8 and a 300 f4. I'd like Sony to spend some of their resources looking at this end of the spectrum and not producing anymore ( at least for now ) the 20-100mm range lenses. We have plenty to choose from now.I'm greedier - I'd like a 200mm f/2 or f/1.8 GM, and a 200mm f/2.8 G, and a 300mm f/2.8 GM.
Would not say no to a 500mm f/5.6 G, either.
Tony Ross wrote:
chez wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
I think regardless of exactly what these lenses are the lineup of Sony E-Mount primes has gotten very strong. Even if Sony quits producing the Sony/Zeiss lenses we still have:Sony 20 f/1.8G
Sony 24 f/1.4 GM; new Sony 24G
Sony 28 f/2
Sony 35 f/1.4 GM; Sony 35 f/1.8
new Sony 40G
Sony 50 f/1.2 GM; new Sony 50G; Sony 50 f/1.8; Sony 50 f/2.8 Macro
Sony 85 f/1.4 GM; Sony 85 f/1.8
Sony 90 f/2.8 G Macro
Sony 100 f/2.8 GM STF
Sony 135 f/1.8 GM
Not to beat a dead horse but every one of these focal lengths has a G or GM lens (which have all been very good to excellent designs) except for 28mm, and it is not as if the 28 f/2 was one of the best non G or GM lenses either. Please Sony give us a good 28mm.
In fact, if I were rating what I would still like to see from Sony that good 28mm would top my list. Followed by a 100, I would love a 100 f/2 G, but a 100 f/1.4 GM would be an interesting lens too. I think Sony really needs a longer macro as well--either a 150 or 180; then a bunch of longer lenses and finally a set of tilt/shift lenses would round out Sony's offerings well.
Would not say no to a 500mm f/5.6 G, either.
Mar 19, 2021 at 09:15 PM
p.7 #12Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
fjablo wrote:
Actually Sony seems to be late with these lenses. Tamron and Sigma beat them to the 24mm, and Tamron has a 35 f/2.8, Sigma has a 35 f/2 and 45 f/2.8, and Zeiss has a 40 f/2 that will compete with the 40 f/2.5. Sigma's 45 f/2.8 (as well as the Sony f/1.8 and Sony f/2.8 macro) will also be competing with the Sony f/2.5.
Another way to say that is Sony isn't adding anything very new at all to the system with these lenses. I find that a bit odd when different lenses would add more to the system (e.g., a 24 f/1.8, a small 40 f/1.8, a small 50 f/1.4).Good points!
The Zeiss Batis 40/2 is by no means compact or small, though.
The selection of small, compact primes for Sony includes third party AF lenses (Tamron, Sigma and Samyang) and will thus be much larger and richer than for the closed Nikon Z-mount, which will get only two compact primes, 28mm and 40mm.But then the Batis is an f2 lens, not 2.8. I personally would rather add a big of weight and a stop faster as the Batis is by no means heavy. If one shoots in good light, the 2.8 lens might be ok, but using 2.8 lens in dim conditions results in boosting the ISO a bit too far.Hm I think f/2.5 with in-body IS should be fine for most travel situations. E.g last year I was in Venice for a few days and the alleys are really dark at night, way darker than the streets in most bigger cities. I got away with a non-IS 35mm f/1.7 on APS-C (just). So the 50 would have been fine. You must be taking pictures in incredibly dim places 😃 But people also have different levels for what is acceptable noise, of course.
IS doesn't do much if your subject moves. You either need faster glass or crank up the ISO.
chez wrote
bjornthun wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
bjornthun wrote
A stray thought; compact Sony 24/2.8 G, 40/2.5 G and 50/2.5 G now that Nikon has got compact 28mm and 40mm lenses on their roadmap. Poor Nikon, late again?Another way to say that is Sony isn't adding anything very new at all to the system with these lenses. I find that a bit odd when different lenses would add more to the system (e.g., a 24 f/1.8, a small 40 f/1.8, a small 50 f/1.4).
The Zeiss Batis 40/2 is by no means compact or small, though.
The selection of small, compact primes for Sony includes third party AF lenses (Tamron, Sigma and Samyang) and will thus be much larger and richer than for the closed Nikon Z-mount, which will get only two compact primes, 28mm and 40mm.
IS doesn't do much if your subject moves. You either need faster glass or crank up the ISO.
Mar 19, 2021 at 09:48 PM
p.7 #13Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
bjornthun wrote:
I would hope for 49mm or 52mm filters and under 300g for a small lens.
400g with a 67mm filter is not something I consider small. But I am sure I am not the target market.At the reported apertures, they better be less than 200g and one would think a 49mm filter.Looking at the Tamron trio of wide primes, Sigma I-series and the Sony 35/2.8, my guess is for filter size and weight
24/2.8, 55mm and 230g
40/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 150g
50/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 200g
The domed hood of the 35/2.8 ZA does have a 40.5mm thread and so does the 28-60/4-5.6.
Will they have aperture rings? If they’re intended for A7c with fewer wheels, then perhaps, I guess.
I think they can get the 24mm under 200g too. The Tamron is 215g and 1:2 magnification. The Samyang 24 f/2.8 is a mere 120g and has a 49mm filter. Even the Sigma 24 f/3.5 which is all metal weighs just 225g. If they go with 1:4 or 1:5 magnification it should not be hard at all to keep it under 200g. I do think the filter might be a bit bigger on the 24mm, but they ought to be able to do 58mm. The Tamron's 67mm maybe the result of Tamron using 67mm for a huge number of their lenses.
Steve Spencer wrote
WestTexas Sky wrote
Small primes would be great. But are we talking Sony 35/2.8 small or Sony 20/1.8 small?I would hope for 49mm or 52mm filters and under 300g for a small lens.
400g with a 67mm filter is not something I consider small. But I am sure I am not the target market.
24/2.8, 55mm and 230g
40/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 150g
50/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 200g
The domed hood of the 35/2.8 ZA does have a 40.5mm thread and so does the 28-60/4-5.6.
Will they have aperture rings? If they’re intended for A7c with fewer wheels, then perhaps, I guess.
I think they can get the 24mm under 200g too. The Tamron is 215g and 1:2 magnification. The Samyang 24 f/2.8 is a mere 120g and has a 49mm filter. Even the Sigma 24 f/3.5 which is all metal weighs just 225g. If they go with 1:4 or 1:5 magnification it should not be hard at all to keep it under 200g. I do think the filter might be a bit bigger on the 24mm, but they ought to be able to do 58mm. The Tamron's 67mm maybe the result of Tamron using 67mm for a huge number of their lenses.
Mar 19, 2021 at 10:21 PM
p.7 #14Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
I personally have zero interest in these type of lenses. First I am not obsessed with size and weight as typically you get just okay. Good but not sure so special but we can debate that till the cows come home. I mean I like small but I'm not going to give up speed for it and I certainly can carry any gear all day long . I got a ruined back to prove that.
I could do one lens that's slower not all. Folks you want small light weight and optical quality to knock your socks off . And good cost Voightlander 50mm 3.5. It's killer good
But it's a manual focus lens. These lenses here are to me . Beginner lenses which is fine but not for all of us.
My 3 cents
I could do one lens that's slower not all. Folks you want small light weight and optical quality to knock your socks off . And good cost Voightlander 50mm 3.5. It's killer good
But it's a manual focus lens. These lenses here are to me . Beginner lenses which is fine but not for all of us.
My 3 cents
Mar 19, 2021 at 11:10 PM
p.7 #15Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
Steve Spencer wrote:
I would hope for 49mm or 52mm filters and under 300g for a small lens.
400g with a 67mm filter is not something I consider small. But I am sure I am not the target market.At the reported apertures, they better be less than 200g and one would think a 49mm filter.Looking at the Tamron trio of wide primes, Sigma I-series and the Sony 35/2.8, my guess is for filter size and weight
24/2.8, 55mm and 230g
40/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 150g
50/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 200g
The domed hood of the 35/2.8 ZA does have a 40.5mm thread and so does the 28-60/4-5.6.
Will they have aperture rings? If they’re intended for A7c with fewer wheels, then perhaps, I guess.I think they can get the 24mm under 200g too. The Tamron is 215g and 1:2 magnification. The Samyang 24 f/2.8 is a mere 120g and has a 49mm filter. Even the Sigma 24 f/3.5 which is all metal weighs just 225g. If they go with 1:4 or 1:5 magnification it should not be hard at all to keep it under 200g. I do think the filter might be a bit bigger on the 24mm, but they ought to be able to do 58mm. The Tamron's 67mm maybe the result of Tamron using 67mm for a huge number of...Show more →
The Samyang is optically rather poor not commensurate with the expectations of a G lens, which is why it will be as long as the Sigma 24/3.5, to achieve better telecentricuty.
Sony uses 40.5, 49, 55 and 62mm filter sizes but not 43, 46, 52 and 58mm among the smaller filter sizes.
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bjornthun wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
WestTexas Sky wrote
Small primes would be great. But are we talking Sony 35/2.8 small or Sony 20/1.8 small?I would hope for 49mm or 52mm filters and under 300g for a small lens.
400g with a 67mm filter is not something I consider small. But I am sure I am not the target market.
24/2.8, 55mm and 230g
40/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 150g
50/2.5, 49mm or 40.5mm and 200g
The domed hood of the 35/2.8 ZA does have a 40.5mm thread and so does the 28-60/4-5.6.
Will they have aperture rings? If they’re intended for A7c with fewer wheels, then perhaps, I guess.
The Samyang is optically rather poor not commensurate with the expectations of a G lens, which is why it will be as long as the Sigma 24/3.5, to achieve better telecentricuty.
Sony uses 40.5, 49, 55 and 62mm filter sizes but not 43, 46, 52 and 58mm among the smaller filter sizes.
Edited on Mar 20, 2021 at 06:05 AM · View previous versions
Mar 20, 2021 at 03:53 AM
p.7 #16Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
Might be interested in the 40mm depending on how well it performs and how much it costs (hopefully less than $500). Would be nice if this is a sign that they will add more small f2.5-ish lenses as I really wish they would make a 100mm f2 (or f2.5) like the old Canon EF lens. A 40/100mm combo used to be my go-to in my Canon days, would love to do it again with Sony.
Mar 20, 2021 at 04:26 AM
p.7 #17Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
personally guess, 50/2.5 G could be a new marco, so a biggest aperture 1：1 AF macro lens for 35mm-FF?
not sure about 40/2.5G, normally no need to bring 2 pancake lens, unless they 2 share most of the design/tooling.
not sure about 40/2.5G, normally no need to bring 2 pancake lens, unless they 2 share most of the design/tooling.
Mar 20, 2021 at 04:53 AM
p.7 #18Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
tdlavigne wrote:
Might be interested in the 40mm depending on how well it performs and how much it costs (hopefully less than $500). Would be nice if this is a sign that they will add more small f2.5-ish lenses as I really wish they would make a 100mm f2 (or f2.5) like the old Canon EF lens. A 40/100mm combo used to be my go-to in my Canon days, would love to do it again with Sony.
I agree on the 100/2,5 and 40 combo.
(if any Sony GM lens is less than the equivalent of 1000USD in Sweden I'm going to fall off my chair
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Might be interested in the 40mm depending on how well it performs and how much it costs (hopefully less than $500). Would be nice if this is a sign that they will add more small f2.5-ish lenses as I really wish they would make a 100mm f2 (or f2.5) like the old Canon EF lens. A 40/100mm combo used to be my go-to in my Canon days, would love to do it again with Sony.
I agree on the 100/2,5 and 40 combo.
(if any Sony GM lens is less than the equivalent of 1000USD in Sweden I'm going to fall off my chair
)Mar 20, 2021 at 06:42 AM
p.7 #19Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
Yes, if it is lenses at f/2.5 or 2.8 then under 200g. Get them down to 125g and a 49mm filter and they are winners.
I always think how small the Olympus OM Zuiko lenses were and would like more like them today.
Steve Spencer wrote:
I would hope for 49mm or 52mm filters and under 300g for a small lens.
400g with a 67mm filter is not something I consider small. But I am sure I am not the target market.At the reported apertures, they better be less than 200g and one would think a 49mm filter.
I always think how small the Olympus OM Zuiko lenses were and would like more like them today.
Steve Spencer wrote:
WestTexas Sky wrote
Small primes would be great. But are we talking Sony 35/2.8 small or Sony 20/1.8 small?I would hope for 49mm or 52mm filters and under 300g for a small lens.
400g with a 67mm filter is not something I consider small. But I am sure I am not the target market.
Mar 20, 2021 at 07:59 AM
p.7 #20Pre-order Sony G lenses: FE 24mm f/2.8, 40mm f/2.5, 50mm f/2.5
Olympus OM Zuiko f/2.8 wides are typically 170-180 grams.
I used to own Olympus OM film SLRs, so I hope Sony and Sigma can replicate much of that. I’d like Sony G/Sigma I-series 85/2.8, 135/3.5, 200/4, 300/4.5 as well.
I used to own Olympus OM film SLRs, so I hope Sony and Sigma can replicate much of that. I’d like Sony G/Sigma I-series 85/2.8, 135/3.5, 200/4, 300/4.5 as well.
Mar 20, 2021 at 08:15 AM