p.9 #2 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
absolutic wrote:
There was a little star next to 30fps in the promo video, so you know there are disclaimers in tiny letters at the bottom ,but I don't know what they are. I remember when A9 came out, there were only few lenses that could do 20fps, there was a list, some could do 15fps, and some were on 10fps list.
In the Q&A they said 14bit Raw up to 20fps (I guess 12bit RAW at 30fps) so perhaps it meant that?
davidnumrich wrote:
Ugh... buffer size and speed is the main problem with the A9 series cameras for me. If they fixed the clearing speed to be at least 4x faster than the a9 ii, then that buffer size is acceptable, but if it's comparable then the 30 FPS feature will be heavily compromised.
If you're using CFExpress A cards the buffer clearance is practically instantaneous apparently.
p.9 #3 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Michael Gordon wrote:
Curiously though all 5 axes of IS will now work even with adapted lenses where no focus distance is reported.
I like that for my adapted macro lenses.
"All 5 axes of stabilization will function at all times, even when used with third-party lenses and adapters or lenses with built-in optical stabilization."
Wonder how they pulled that off and if lenses with built in IS will still be better.
Great catch. Interesting how they bypassed focus distance to achieve this.
p.9 #5 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
dclark wrote:
It may be that improvement beyond 5.5 requires more low frequency long excursion tracking. The e-mount may limit the long excursion more than the Canon mount. That's 100% speculation.
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Jesse Evans wrote:
I believe they are physically constrained by vignetting from the mount, and body size.
But Sony has improved video stabilization fairly dramatically with "Active Mode" stabilization.
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molson wrote:
They will probably require a larger lens mount for that.
Yes, that was the theory and it seems to hold water.
p.9 #6 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
jon.pictures wrote:
In the Q&A they said 14bit Raw up to 20fps (I guess 12bit RAW at 30fps) so perhaps it meant that?
If you're using CFExpress A cards the buffer clearance is practically instantaneous apparently.
I hope that's the case, but I haven't been able to find any good tests on the A7S iii buffer clearing speeds, since it's the only Sony camera with the CFExpress cards and newer generation processor.
All I know is that buffer clearing is painfully slow on my A9ii.
For me, that's just marketing blablab anyway
Whether 10 years ago at Canon or now at Sony, I have never seen a stabilization system on a camera or lens that would have brought me even an extension of the exposure time by 2 stops.
With the A7II, A7III and my current A7RIII, IBIS brings me about 1 stop.
With the A7RIII without IBIS I need an average shutter speed of 1 / 2x focal length sec for an almost 100 percent sharp landscape shot out there in the nature (depending of course on the respective lens, subject ((e.g. mountain range)) and the environment, wind, ...). This means a safe chance for a tripod sharp picture at least with electronic shutter.
With IBIS I almost always manage 1 / 1x focal length number sec for the same result. And that with special attention to the breathing technique and I am neither particularly old, nor sick, nor can't I stand still.
Since I often take landscape picutres in places where I cannot use a tripod, an IBIS that effectively brings me 2 stops in practice would already be a revolution for me.
And I'm talking about perfectly sharp images of very fine structures in the landscape, not any semi-sharp images.
p.9 #8 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
As a hybrid shooter, this camera speaks directly to me on everything but the price. My eyes see a consolidation (and upgrade in a few cases) of the A7RIV + A9II + A7SIII features into one do it all body. At the moment, I have the R5 and A7SIII to meet my unfortunate flawed passion for the best stills and video. On paper, the A1 body gives me everything I want (no real need) in one body – including consistency of colors while reducing the need for two sets of lenses. Even the little things caught my eye like the tilt screen in lieu of the flippy screen. I never liked it and still struggle to this day with pulling the screen to the side. Love the R5 + 100-500 combo so looking forward to REAL reviews of this with the Sony 200-600.
p.9 #10 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
HelBen85 wrote:
For me, that's just marketing blablab anyway
Whether 10 years ago at Canon or now at Sony, I have never seen a stabilization system on a camera or lens that would have brought me even an extension of the exposure time by 2 stops.
With the A7II, A7III and my current A7RIII, IBIS brings me about 1 stop.
With the A7RIII without IBIS I need an average shutter speed of 1 / 2x focal length sec for an almost 100 percent sharp landscape shot out there in the nature (depending of course on the respective lens, subject ((e.g. mountain range)) and the environment, wind, ...). This means a safe chance for a tripod sharp picture at least with electronic shutter.
With IBIS I almost always manage 1 / 1x focal length number sec for the same result. And that with special attention to the breathing technique and I am neither particularly old, nor sick, nor can't I stand still.
Since I often take landscape picutres in places where I cannot use a tripod, an IBIS that effectively brings me 2 stops in practice would already be a revolution for me.
And I'm talking about perfectly sharp images of very fine structures in the landscape, not any semi-sharp images. ...Show more →
p.9 #11 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
the few mm that using the a99 LCD would bring just to finally shut up all the discussion over it should be well worth, OR at that price point maybe they should offer you the option from one to another, even if you had to send in for the exchange from tilt to flip
p.9 #12 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
JayPhoto1 wrote:
As a hybrid shooter, this camera speaks directly to me on everything but the price. My eyes see a consolidation (and upgrade in a few cases) of the A7RIV + A9II + A7SIII features into one do it all body. At the moment, I have the R5 and A7SIII to meet my unfortunate flawed passion for the best stills and video. On paper, the A1 body gives me everything I want (no real need) in one body – including consistency of colors while reducing the need for two sets of lenses. Even the little things caught my eye like the tilt screen in lieu of the flippy screen. I never liked it and still struggle to this day with pulling the screen to the side. Love the R5 + 100-500 combo so looking forward to REAL reviews of this with the Sony 200-600. ...Show more →
The question here is will Sony give you the lenses you want? No native f/1.2 primes, not great native 50mm or 85mm primes, both the 24-70/2.8 or the 70-200/2.8 are getting long in the tooth.
Then again, I’d hate to shoot two different systems/brands.
p.9 #14 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Possibly more mention should be made of the unique electronic shutter? Silent, fastest fps, strobe free, flash enabled, 240 Hz VF refresh and 1.5X faster readout than the A9 (no bending). Therefor no need to use a mechanical shutter-ever.
p.9 #15 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
What a great body Sony has pulled off. Kudos to them for such stand out and superlative feature set. An April fools post used to have such impossible features...wow !
However, the decision to buy this is not solely about money. The feature set is so outrageously good that one tends to think is this too much camera for me?
p.9 #17 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
A lot of really good information in this video, guys.
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Looks like not only do they a 21MP APS-C mode, but they also have an automatic downsampling feature that retains full frame but goes from 50MP to 21MP. I imagine this will go a long way to alleviating any concerns about high ISO performance and it's done in camera!
p.9 #18 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
HelBen - Your experience generally mirrors mine. That is until I recently bought the Olympus EM1 Mark III and 12-100mm lens to use as a beach camera. To my surprise, I am consistently getting 200mm equivalent images that are sharp at 1/10th of a second, which is I calculate is about 5 stops better than the old 1/focal length rule.
The Olympus is obviously not a full frame camera, but the Canon R5 appears to be able to reasonably help photographers achieve 4-5 stops of image stabilization benefit for critically sharp landscapes when used with the Canon RF image-stabilized lenses (compared to Canon's marketing of up to an 8 stop benefit).
In other words, it's probably a good 3-4 stops better than I get with the A7RIV and the 24-105mm f4 IS G lens. 3 stops of additional hand-holdability is very significant (perhaps a "revolution") to me as well. That's why I'm evaluating switching from Sony to Canon, notwithstanding the A1 marvel. Doesn't have what I most value.
HelBen85 wrote:
For me, that's just marketing blablab anyway
Whether 10 years ago at Canon or now at Sony, I have never seen a stabilization system on a camera or lens that would have brought me even an extension of the exposure time by 2 stops.
With the A7II, A7III and my current A7RIII, IBIS brings me about 1 stop.
With the A7RIII without IBIS I need an average shutter speed of 1 / 2x focal length sec for an almost 100 percent sharp landscape shot out there in the nature (depending of course on the respective lens, subject ((e.g. mountain range)) and the environment, wind, ...). This means a safe chance for a tripod sharp picture at least with electronic shutter.
With IBIS I almost always manage 1 / 1x focal length number sec for the same result. And that with special attention to the breathing technique and I am neither particularly old, nor sick, nor can't I stand still.
Since I often take landscape picutres in places where I cannot use a tripod, an IBIS that effectively brings me 2 stops in practice would already be a revolution for me.
And I'm talking about perfectly sharp images of very fine structures in the landscape, not any semi-sharp images. ...Show more →
Thank you!