p.10 #1 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
At 58:30 in the video I linked above with the Sony Pro Support rep, he says that the buffer fill ups pretty fast but it "clears almost instantly with the CFExpress Type A card." Hope his definition of instant is similar to mine, because that basically sold me on the camera if it's true.
p.10 #3 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Im going to stay out of the fray here folks . I read a few things no videos but I did scan Sonys website and seen at least 4 or more major advances that really are Pro features that I want. Not for everyone but things I have been fighting decades that look like Sony solved
p.10 #5 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Looking forward to seeing better sample images with exif . Noise performance will significantly impact my decision on what to keep and what to sell. With supposed 15 stops of DR I expect it to be quite good.
p.10 #6 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Looks like an amazing camera for Pros and prosumers.
I barely scratch the surfacte of my A7RM4, so this would be like buying a Fararri to drive 3 miles to the grocery store, 1x per week, for me.
I'll have to settle for living vicariously through the forums.
Looking forward to shots from the FM family when peeps start receiving their A1s.
p.10 #7 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
I can't wait to take the same boring pictures of the same birds in my backyard with this new camera....maybe one day I can travel again and take a photo of something interesting.
p.10 #9 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Dave Sanders wrote:
Yes. I was out at the Reifel Bird Sanctuary in Delta near Vancouver a few years back and my dad and I met a guy with two 1 series Canon Bodies and, if I recall correctly, 400mm and 600mm lenses. My dad got talking to him and asked about his gear and lenses. He mentioned that he was a partner in an engineering firm and had been a bird watcher and photographer for most of his life. He said that he drove a Toyota (or maybe it was a Honda?) and that the other partners in his firm had the big Audi and BMW SUVs. As long as that remained the case, his wife didn't care about how much he spent on lenses.
There are quite a few people who, I think, make similar choices. As someone pricing out a kitchen renovation, I can tell you that you can spend 5X the cost of the A1 on a fridge if you'd like......Show more →
The same thing also applies to audio gear. There are many people out there with $50K stereo systems that are not rich. You can buy a cheap Toyota, keep it after car note is paid off, and divert that money into your hobby/passion.
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p.10 #10 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
buffalowolff wrote:
Looking forward to seeing better sample images with exif . Noise performance will significantly impact my decision on what to keep and what to sell. With supposed 15 stops of DR I expect it to be quite good.
For lots of reasons that supposed 15 stops of DR doesn't tell us much. First, that is at low ISO not high ISO. Second, it tells us nothing about patterns in the noise which can make or break high ISO performance. Third it is a bit of a made up number. You can't talk about DR without making some assumptions and Sony tells us nothing about the assumptions they are making to get that number. Fourth, we have seen that number before. Sony said the same thing about the A7r IV, but its high ISO performance isn't as good as some other Sony cameras, notably the A7r III, IMO, has a bit better high ISO performance.
So, I think we will have to wait until the camera is actually tested before we know about its performance at both low ISO and high ISO. I am hopefully it will do both types of shooting well. I expect that it will be a bit worse at both types of shooting, however, than camera specifically designed for better low ISO or high ISO shooting. I cautiously realize, nevertheless, that the announcement does not to assure that one type of shooting or the other or both might be less than we hope for.
p.10 #11 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
canucks wrote:
Not sure if you’ll see a lot. $6500 is a lot of money to justify the switch. Most professionals need two cameras too.
Indeed. I currently have 2 A7rIII's and an A9, I do documentary and landscape work plus event work for a charity (at least before Covid) and I always work with 2 bodies. Beyond my price range at the moment and I don't need the 30fps or video capabilities though I would like the higher res EVF
p.10 #13 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
arize84 wrote:
The same thing also applies to audio gear. There are many people out there with $50K stereo systems that are not rich. You can buy a cheap Toyota, keep it after car note is paid off, and divert that money into your hobby/passion.
Absolutely. I like music and good sound and have a pair of, for me, pricey Final Audio Sonorous VI's. The store I like here in Vancouver to check out high end headphones (www.theheadphonebar.com) has all sorts of cans costing dramatically more than that...before you even talk about a dac/amplifier. The owner told me that most of his regular customers are not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination, they just, as you said, put their money towards their passion. When I was looking at some Audeze LCD-2's a while back and complaining about the price he said 'Did you say that you were saving up to buy a lens...?'
He's a good salesman...though I got the lens, not the headphones
p.10 #14 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
I wonder if a non-stacked version of this sensor and the updated AF array will make it to the a7IV - similar to the a9/a7III? Sony could easily dumb it down, with a price bump to R6 territory, and it would still be the #1 selling FF body.
I hope lossless raw and Cinetone make it to current bodies - like my a7sIII and a7III.
p.10 #15 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
GMPhotography wrote:
Im going to stay out of the fray here folks . I read a few things no videos but I did scan Sonys website and seen at least 4 or more major advances that really are Pro features that I want. Not for everyone but things I have been fighting decades that look like Sony solved
Good luck
If this camera is what I think it is, then you are going to love it!
p.10 #16 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
joychris wrote:
I wonder if a non-stacked version of this sensor and the updated AF array will make it to the a7IV - similar to the a9/a7III? Sony could easily dumb it down, with a price bump to R6 territory, and it would still be the #1 selling FF body.
I hope lossless raw and Cinetone make it to current bodies - like my a7sIII and a7III.
Chris
I'm sure much of the progress will make it to the A7IV, but it will likely only have a single CPU, and without a stacked sensor most of the AF improvements will be gone.
Most likely, the A7IV will have the tracking capabilities and menu system of the A7sIII, the same sensor, 10 bit video and maybe a faster mechanical shutter. Just my guess, but it is an educated one :-)
p.10 #18 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
Steve Spencer wrote:
For lots of reasons that supposed 15 stops of DR doesn't tell us much. First, that is at low ISO not high ISO. Second, it tells us nothing about patterns in the noise which can make or break high ISO performance. Third it is a bit of a made up number. You can't talk about DR without making some assumptions and Sony tells us nothing about the assumptions they are making to get that number. Fourth, we have seen that number before. Sony said the same thing about the A7r IV, but its high ISO performance isn't as good as some other Sony cameras, notably the A7r III, IMO, has a bit better high ISO performance.
So, I think we will have to wait until the camera is actually tested before we know about its performance at both low ISO and high ISO. I am hopefully it will do both types of shooting well. I expect that it will be a bit worse at both types of shooting, however, than camera specifically designed for better low ISO or high ISO shooting. I cautiously realize, nevertheless, that the announcement does not to assure that one type of shooting or the other or both might be less than we hope for....Show more →
True, but if we get lucky Sony might have mastered the stacked sensor to the degree that the very fast readout does not introduce to much base noise and will deliver very good DR at base ISO. Impossible for us to know at this point, but why mention the 15 stops of DR if they didn’t manage to improve on the A9 II? Anyway, this will be VERY interesting as this was the only drawback of the stacked sensor which is superior in a lot of other metrics.
p.10 #19 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
This camera got almost all I hoped for and look forward to getting this.
Still no camera is perfect and this is the cons I see so far:
- Same old crappy rear screen. I guess it saves Sony 20$ production cost on their 6500$ camera.
- EVF is cropped at 240hz
- 30FPS only with lossy compressed raw and I guess 12bit
- Buffer same number of shots as A9 with lossy compressed raw. The 50MP files will eat up most of the extra speed of the new cards, smaller buffer with higher quality files. Would have preferred type B cards.
p.10 #20 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)
I used to buy a new (to me) Canon 1D two generations behind newest at a great price so looking forward to one of these in a couple of years time. I’ll let someone else take the depreciation. Meanwhile I’m enjoying my A9. Its great to buy lenses knowing you’ve got development going on with the bodies you plug them into. Some current brands you do wonder about the investment.
