It's quite interesting to see how similar the R5 grip ergos are to the 5D. I always felt like the R was very poorly balanced in the hand, hope that even though the R5 is a bit bigger, it's still more comfortable to hold.
If the R5 can track like the 1dx III can in live-view, I'll be buying one....
Below are shots from the 1dx III with the hoodman loupe in live-view mode.
Pius Sullivan wrote:
If the R5 can track like the 1dx III can in live-view, I'll be buying one....
Below are shots from the 1dx III with the hoodman loupe in live-view mode.
reggieb wrote:
But you mentioned heat. I didn't read this entire thread so I apologize if I'm bringing up a topic that's been mentioned before, but I actually only saw this morning that there will be an HEVC option. I can't fathom how they will pull this off. My desktop computer, with a full custom water cooling loop, with a 360mm radiator, and a total of 6 120mm and 2 140mm fans in an air conditioned room, with a Ryzen 3950x (that's 16 cores and 32 threads) can, with an overclock, encode 4k at about 9fps, and the CPU touches 90C. I get about 8fps without the overclock, and the CPU hits about 75-80.
If I hand the encode over to the NVENC, I get about 50fps encoding, but that's a full desktop GPU being directly fed cool air, 3 120mm intake fans blow directly in to the thing, and it hits about 70C during an encode. Also, during an encode with that GPU, Davinici Resolve hits around 90GB of RAM usage.
I don't think that Canon has defied the laws of physics, so there is SOMETHING going on here. 8k footage to HEVC, if it can be done at these frame rates for a sustained amount of time, they must have really come up with something special. Though I'll remain skeptical until I see it in action. ...Show more →
What parameters are you using for encoding? Every modern encoder allows you to specify your own trade-off between encoding speed and the compression ratio. If you use something like ffmpeg for x265, it comes with presets from 'ultrafast' to 'veryslow'. As a quick check, I encoded a test raw file and the ultrafast encoding ran at 200fps and the veryslow was 9fps, so the difference can be massive. The 'ultrafast' file size was significantly larger as expected. With dedicated hardware encoders with direct pipelines into the imaging system, this difference will probably be amplified.
Pius Sullivan wrote:
If the R5 can track like the 1dx III can in live-view, I'll be buying one....
Below are shots from the 1dx III with the hoodman loupe in live-view mode.
arbitrage wrote:
Excellent!!
I'll buy one too if it can do that at 45MPs...but I also need to buy your 400DOII so please box it up for me
Excellent images indeed. Is this a fast bird or does it slow down a lot when landing (making things a lot easier for the AF system ...)?
I'm not interested in 1DX3 or R5 at all, but if they can do the same in a lighter and more affordable APS-C body (mirrorless 7D2 successor?) I might buy another Canon body in future. I guess 1DX3 AF performance in Liveview is partly based on the faster/dual Digic processors, but those are relatively cheap. No reason not to use that in a future EOS M5 II and appeal to enthusiast wildlife photographers who have been waiting for years for a 7D3 that will probably never arrive. Even a more affordable APS-C "mini-R5" might be interesting, if the price and performance is right.
Specs are outstanding. The most important feature for me will be to see if it had a9 like or faster sensor read speed. Without that I don’t see all these features taking off in a meaningful way.
artsupreme wrote:
We've seen almost all the R5 specifications and people seem excited. The big question seems to be whether it truly does 12fps in AI servo and what the exact MP count will be.
Given Canon's history, do people really think they are going to release a screamer that knocks everyone socks off with 12fps in AI servo at 40MP+?
Or, do you think it will end up being a slightly better 5DIV with slightly better if not the same IQ, and just more cropping power?
Based on history, I think we'll see the latter. Basically a 5DIV with 10 more MP. If that's true, I wonder where the price will land? Close to $4000?
If it's a legitimate 12fps in AI servo and performs like a sports body then this body would have to be close to $5000.
I understand the video might be better, but I'm not sure what the demand is for an 8K video camera right now....Show more →
technic wrote:
Excellent images indeed. Is this a fast bird or does it slow down a lot when landing (making things a lot easier for the AF system ...)?
I'm not interested in 1DX3 or R5 at all, but if they can do the same in a lighter and more affordable APS-C body (mirrorless 7D2 successor?) I might buy another Canon body in future. I guess 1DX3 AF performance in Liveview is partly based on the faster/dual Digic processors, but those are relatively cheap. No reason not to use that in a future EOS M5 II and appeal to enthusiast wildlife photographers who have been waiting for years for a 7D3 that will probably never arrive. Even a more affordable APS-C "mini-R5" might be interesting, if the price and performance is right....Show more →
I would say it is of moderate-hard difficulty BIF. It does slow on landing but it is still fairly fast. I don't have much issue getting good flight shots of the Blackbirds with Nikon or Sony. Sometimes I shoot them as they leave one cattail for the next. Other times they will be flying in from afar to land on a cattail. You do have to react pretty quickly if they are just going from one to the next cattail, the flight is usually just a meter or two and takes just a second to complete so it involves good reaction time and a quick pan allowing the camera's auto AF type modes to carry the load. A9 Wide or Nikon Auto AF. With the 1DXIII the 61 All-point mode in LV is probably what Pius used (or maybe not?). If it is coming in from afar then you have more time to get on it and follow it in to landing. I can sometimes do that type of shot in a smaller AF mode like Sony Zone, Nikon Group AF and maybe Canon Zone.
IndyFab wrote:
Thanks Pius, what are the pro's and cons of using loupe in liveview.
BTW great captures above.
Not to answer for Pius but I use the Loupe a lot.
The biggest pro is not having too hold the lens out to see the screen to compose and focus the shot. The loupe makes it more like an eyepiece with better stability. For me I can find the subject faster using the loupe vs trying to hold the screen away from you and find the subject. You can take better advantage of the mirrorless functions, like silent shutter and 20fps etc. Better in full sun also.
Biggest Con is it makes the overall system longer. The heavier the lens the harder it is to use the Loupe in my opinion while handholding. No issues on a monopod or tripod. You lose touch screen ability.
For me I think the loupe helps take full advantage of all the 1dx Mark III offers.
Pius Sullivan wrote:
If the R5 can track like the 1dx III can in live-view, I'll be buying one....
Below are shots from the 1dx III with the hoodman loupe in live-view mode.
RobAmy wrote:
Not to answer for Pius but I use the Loupe a lot.
The biggest pro is not having too hold the lens out to see the screen to compose and focus the shot. The loupe makes it more like an eyepiece with better stability. For me I can find the subject faster using the loupe vs trying to hold the screen away from you and find the subject. You can take better advantage of the mirrorless functions, like silent shutter and 20fps etc. Better in full sun also.
Biggest Con is it makes the overall system longer. The heavier the lens the harder it is to use the Loupe in my opinion while handholding. No issues on a monopod or tripod. You lose touch screen ability.
For me I think the loupe helps take full advantage of all the 1dx Mark III offers.
As a user of the Sigma 150-600 C I would be more concerned about the 500 to 600 difference than the 7.1 to 6.3 difference. Lighter and better would be important to me. If the IQ of the 100-500 is better than the 150-600 then a small crop might still produce a better image from a lighter, more manageable lens.
RoamingScott wrote:
It's quite interesting to see how similar the R5 grip ergos are to the 5D. I always felt like the R was very poorly balanced in the hand, hope that even though the R5 is a bit bigger, it's still more comfortable to hold.
Looking at the R5 and R almost side by side at WPPI, the R5 was slightly larger, but nowhere near as large as a 5D4. I have the grip for the R and really like it, though it shows just how small the R body is, because the base of the grip is deeper than the body is. (unlike the 1Dx series where either in landscape or portrait the grip is the same size.)
mikeinctown wrote:
Looking at the R5 and R almost side by side at WPPI, the R5 was slightly larger, but nowhere near as large as a 5D4. I have the grip for the R and really like it, though it shows just how small the R body is, because the base of the grip is deeper than the body is. (unlike the 1Dx series where either in landscape or portrait the grip is the same size.)
It's all relative right? Small compared to DSLR, but still one of the heavier/chunkier bodies in the full frame MILC market.
