p.9 #3 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
i like the clear design of the cam a lot.
an the button everywhere design of the most digital cameras not so much.
for a mechanical cam ist ok.
if your smartphone would have 8 buttons and three dials, ... nightmare.
Lightroom mobile works so good since a few months, its clear that it
moves into the cams and the results are great.
i hope that you can move the AF point with the touchscreen.
great great great.
i really do wonder why Nikon or Canon did not made this.
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p.9 #6 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
LBJ2 wrote:
Right tool for the job. Mobile phone photographers experience exactly the same in similar circumstances.
If I were to bring along something like the ZX1 to the scenario you describe I don' think the camera would stop working altogether. I'd probably bring along a bluetooth drive for backups or like I used to do with my one-slot cameras backup to my laptop as soon as I could.
Regardless, I still need to see how the ZX1 performs and if it has enough internal processing power to push all this data around to begin with.
Interesting idea and I am sure some of that will end up in future cameras but it misses too many marks and will be four times what I would be willing to pay for it.
To expensive
Too big
Too heavy
Limited in function
3FPS
AF questions
Sensor is hardly revolutionary but rather rehashed tech
eye-focus?
What is it for?
Essentially it is a higher quality more ergonmically correct design than a smartphone for taking photos at a price few will be willing to pay for it. And will be outdated too soon to get your monies worth like any other computer related item and resale will probably tank. It is 1st gen and 1st gen is not worth beans when 2nd and 3rd come out in the electronics world.
I do believe a $1,500 to 1,800 APS-C or 1" sensor smaller model would find a home in the marketplace.
p.9 #7 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
i like people justified buying iphones with 16 GB with no memory slot for years.
and now they knock the Zeiss with 512GB for not having memory slot. amazing.
p.9 #8 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2018/09/new-blood.html The significance of the camera also remains to be seen. It might end up a curiosity or a style accessory. But recall that Fuji was surprised by the worldwide sensation it created with the original X100 and pivoted into being a full-line cameramaker; so anything can happen. We'll have to wait and see with open minds.
Well, actually Leica started the trend towards high quality compacts with a larger sensor (APS-C and later also full frame) and a 28mm or 35mm prime lens with the X.
And the Fujifilm X100 was and is a beautiful little product thats easily recognizeable as something made for photographers, because it is very functional with useful gimmicks that make the camera only even more enjoyable to us, such as the OVF option, or the wonderful leaf shutter (allowing up to 1/4000 sec flash sync at f/5.6 and above, or 1/2000 sec wide open), or the ND filter.
This camera really isnt. I wish Zeiss no evil, but if this product is a success, I'll be very baffled. To me its obvious this is a lifestyle product for rich snobs, not a practical product for photographers.
p.9 #9 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
trstahly wrote:
Interesting idea and I am sure some of that will end up in future cameras but it misses too many marks and will be four times what I would be willing to pay for it.
To expensive
Too big
Too heavy
Limited in function
3FPS
AF questions
Sensor is hardly revolutionary but rather rehashed tech
eye-focus?
What is it for?
Essentially it is a higher quality more ergonmically correct design than a smartphone for taking photos at a price few will be willing to pay for it. And will be outdated too soon to get your monies worth like any other computer related item and resale will probably tank. It is 1st gen and 1st gen is not worth beans when 2nd and 3rd come out in the electronics world.
I do believe a $1,500 to 1,800 APS-C or 1" sensor smaller model would find a home in the marketplace. ...Show more →
Some good points for sure. Fun to talk about the latest greatest and imagine the possibilities. But in the end it is all about performance.
Eye AF is truly a game changer. Full stop.
I don't think this camera is about the latest sensor tech ( that's Sony's realm) although I think it's a Sony sensor inside
3FPS is indeed MEH
Too expensive ( probably, but no surprise there with the included blue badge on the front )
Too big, too heavy? I gave up on that sentiment a long time ago when I had to buy a new bag to accommodate my little Sony cameras and one or two GM lenses. The new GM 24 F1.4 on the other hand...looks pretty compact to me.
The how -to AF question. Agree.
p.9 #10 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
LBJ2 wrote:
Eye AF is truly a game changer. Full stop.
I strongly disagree. Eye AF is an automatic I have no control over. For example, if multiple people are in the shot, the Eye AF will pick a random person among them. So ... why would I want such a thing ? I honestly have no clue. I certainly want 100% control over focus at all times and I certainly have no issue whatsoever to set the AF point over the eye I want in focus.
p.9 #11 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Sauseschritt wrote:
I strongly disagree. Eye AF is an automatic I have no control over. For example, if multiple people are in the shot, the Eye AF will pick a random person among them. So ... why would I want such a thing ? I honestly have no clue. I certainly want 100% control over focus at all times and I certainly have no issue whatsoever to set the AF point over the eye I want in focus.
Position the focus point nearest the face you want it to grab the eyes of.
p.9 #12 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
I think the time has come for all cameras to have integrated image editors and easy-share options. If I were designing the system I would have two tiers of functionality - a basic editor/sharing app inside the camera and then a more advanced hybrid app that uses the camera controls as the interface but uses a wifi-tethered smartphone to do the heavy image process lifting (basically, the camera would serve only as a user input/output device and the app on the smartphone would do all the work) - this allows the app to be continually improved/updated without having to change the app in the camera.
p.9 #13 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
snapsy wrote:
I think the time has come for all cameras to have integrated image editors and easy-share options. If I were designing the system I would have two tiers of functionality - a basic editor/sharing app inside the camera and then a more advanced hybrid app that uses the camera controls as the interface but uses a wifi-tethered smartphone to do the heavy image process lifting (basically, the camera would serve only as a user input/output device and the app on the smartphone would do all the work) - this allows the app to be continually improved/updated without having to change the app in the camera....Show more →
"I think the time has come for all cameras to have integrated image editors and easy-share options." 👍
I think this is just the beginning and we will see how well Zeiss implemented in the ZX1 soon. I do think this is the beginning of a new direction and expect to see other brands start to implement something similar. I expect Sony is behind a lot of the technology in the ZX1 ( just guessing) and wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing something of a similar approach in the next batch of new Sony cameras.
p.9 #14 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
klasGelinder wrote:
I have to go against the grain here and call the design amazing. Very beautiful. I am sure there will be leather half cases etc to help grippage if that is an issue.
If WiFi works good, so that whenever you shoot with WiFi connection, the raw files can be immediately stored in a cloud, and maybe synced to my computer automatically I would actually consider it as my daily camera, for family and stuff. I have a feeling the price would be very high though for a family second camera.
Imagine shooting in the woods or whatever, you come home, the camera connect to WiFI and starts transferring files to the computer while I put the gear away. Maybe I am just dreaming ...Show more →
I agree! It will be interesting to see what the functioning camera is like in use but the idea of taking pictures and having them uploaded in the field to your desktop back home via LR CC already intrigues me. Do it with a 37MP sensor, even better. It all depends how well it works in practice. If it's clunky, then uh-oh but if it's intuitive and smooth, it could be wonderful.
p.9 #16 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
snapsy wrote:
I think the time has come for all cameras to have integrated image editors and easy-share options. If I were designing the system I would have two tiers of functionality - a basic editor/sharing app inside the camera and then a more advanced hybrid app that uses the camera controls as the interface but uses a wifi-tethered smartphone to do the heavy image process lifting (basically, the camera would serve only as a user input/output device and the app on the smartphone would do all the work) - this allows the app to be continually improved/updated without having to change the app in the camera....Show more →
I think what you are calling for is already in cameras...it is called jpeg.
p.9 #17 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Well, perhaps this is the future, a Toy-like camera...,but can my 4 year old grand-daughter making a photo with it? That would be nice. She knows to manage a Smartphone, so...?
But weight and volume are to much for her.
There will be a market for it, but how many photography enthousiast will buy this kind of camera?
p.9 #18 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
mogul wrote:
I think what you are calling for is already in cameras...it is called jpeg.
If that were the case we wouldn't need raw files. The ability to do custom adjustments on individual photos without loss of quality is the utility of this tool.
p.9 #19 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
rji2goleez wrote:
I agree! It will be interesting to see what the functioning camera is like in use but the idea of taking pictures and having them uploaded in the field to your desktop back home via LR CC already intrigues me. Do it with a 37MP sensor, even better. It all depends how well it works in practice. If it's clunky, then uh-oh but if it's intuitive and smooth, it could be wonderful.
If your 4G smartphone can be a Wifi Hotspot, that will probably be possible. The issue will be bandwidth and time to process / upload the RAW files.
Another question will be price. Will this cloud service be charged? Subscription?
