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p.28 #1 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


The hot shoe conforms to Sigma SA-TTL, according to the camera specs. So, who made the camera? And the lens?


Oct 29, 2020 at 05:56 AM
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p.28 #2 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


"Making of ZEISS ZX1"

&feature=youtu.be

The design concept!








Oct 29, 2020 at 06:07 AM
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p.28 #3 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


Slightly off topic, but I discovered last week (thanks to a post on FM) that you can easily transfer RAW files from a Sony camera to your phone, in the field, using FTP (of all things).

To me this is a more useful proposition than the ability to develop RAWs on the camera itself, since I always have my phone on me anyway and it's much more flexible in terms of choosing which editing apps to run, what you do with photos afterwards, it can be upgraded separately etc.

The only advantage to using the camera would be if you could use the viewfinder and controll dials instead of the rear screen.



Oct 29, 2020 at 06:30 AM
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p.28 #4 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


BWAHAHAHA.. $6,000? USD

Zeiss, you've lost your #!$%.

I think I'll stick with my Leica Q2 and upcoming Q2 Mono thanks.

Super disappointed on that pricing. If it had been <= $4,000 I would've been all over it. This is just insane..

Knowing the price and that you could have a Q2 that does 35mm crop mode at ~30MP with a faster lens... and then $2,000 USD left over to take a (post-covid) trip or buy additional items, curious to see who is still in for the ZX1?

Put this in perspective.. this is ~$400 shy of the the Hasselblad 907x/CFVii50c 50MP medium format setup.. You could buy an A7R4, 24-70 2.7GM and still have $1,000 left over.. or the ZX1...

Just crazy..



Oct 29, 2020 at 06:41 AM
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p.28 #5 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


bjornthun wrote:
The hot shoe conforms to Sigma SA-TTL, according to the camera specs. So, who made the camera? And the lens?


Ah. I was about to make this same comment. Especially as the style reminds me of a certain makers Foveon bodies...not that it matters.



Oct 29, 2020 at 06:49 AM
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p.28 #6 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


Such a bizarre price combined with just a giant size. Who is going to buy this? There is a market for a high quality 35mm full frame compact camera, but not one that is larger than an A7R IV with a 35mm lens attached. And more expensive.

And if you want that Zeiss Sonnar 35mm f/2 goodness, the RX1R II is still available for roughly half the price of this. And it's like half the size. I mean seriously.



Oct 29, 2020 at 06:55 AM
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p.28 #7 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


It seems odd that they don't have any reviews on announcement. Normally you would see embargoed reviews released by now, correct?


Oct 29, 2020 at 08:15 AM
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DavidBM wrote:
Ah. I was about to make this same comment. Especially as the style reminds me of a certain makers Foveon bodies...not that it matters.


Sigma makes the Art series lenses, so having Sigma involved would most likely a good thing. Maybe Sigma could manufacture a Batis II series as well.



Oct 29, 2020 at 08:21 AM
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Jman13 wrote:
Such a bizarre price combined with just a giant size.


I think the photos of the camera make it seems larger than it really is. For sure it's a bigger camera, but compared to others it's in the middle range.

CameraSize comparison - https://j.mp/2TzKZHt

But yes, bizarre price.







Oct 29, 2020 at 08:28 AM
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p.28 #10 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


A very thorough ZX1 product overview here:

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p.28 #11 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


The camera could only be released in 2020. Many scholars maintain that it's the sole cause of the global instability we're all living through. Thanks Zeiss!


Oct 29, 2020 at 09:10 AM
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MikeEvangelist wrote:
I think the photos of the camera make it seems larger than it really is. For sure it's a bigger camera, but compared to others it's in the middle range.

CameraSize comparison - https://j.mp/2TzKZHt

But yes, bizarre price.


This is very helpful, Mike and well-done visually. Can you throw the Leica SL-2 and the Sony A7C in there also to create endpoints on the range? (Maybe drop the Lumix and the Sony Alpha 99 to make them all fit?)



Oct 29, 2020 at 09:22 AM
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p.28 #13 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


Update: The Zeiss ZX1 is now available for pre-order

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Explora Review



Oct 29, 2020 at 09:25 AM
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p.28 #14 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


Lens looks pretty stellar but they could always just be sharing best images. Was curious about the sealing since there was no mention on the bhphoto product page or the video. Found this little gem here:

ZEISS wrote:
Is the ZEISS ZX1 water-resistant and weather-sealed?
With its robust construction and smooth surface, the ZEISS ZX1 is designed to resist water penetration to some extent, however it is not waterproof or dustproof.
When exposed to water or a high density of moisture, the camera may malfunction.
Make sure that water cannot get into the camera. If condensation forms on or in the camera, stop using the camera, remove the battery from the battery compartment, and leave it in a dry and well-ventilated place until the condensation dries up on its own.


This camera is a goddamn Homeric tragedy rofl. Unlike the Q2, it has phase detect. The lens looks better than the 35 sonnar (granted, just a few shots—could be sample bias). It tries to innovate. This could have been the compact camera that got everything right. But even at this price point, it is missing some features shared by all its modern rivals:

  1. Sealing (as above)
  2. Good MFD (notably behind the x100, rx1, Q, and even GR III—very useful feature if you don't have the option of changing lenses)
  3. Stabilization (only the Q and GR III have this, but digital is very unforgiving when it comes to camera shake—even 1-2 stops is useful)


Almost all style (looks to be an excellent lens) and no substance. I guess the wait for hole filled in the compact market by the missing rx1r iii will take a little longer to be filled—either by that camera actually manifesting itself (super unlikely at this point) or someone to finally make a compact (no Batis 40 ) and optically uncompromising (no 28/35 1.8/2 fits that description atm) 28/35/40 lens to match the 7c. I'm just disappointed at this point



Oct 29, 2020 at 09:29 AM
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chiron wrote:
This is very helpful, Mike and well-done visually. Can you throw the Leica SL-2 and the Sony A7C in there also to create endpoints on the range? (Maybe drop the Lumix and the Sony Alpha 99 to make them all fit?)


Sure, here you go...

https://j.mp/35HOZLL







Oct 29, 2020 at 09:30 AM
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MikeEvangelist wrote:
I think the photos of the camera make it seems larger than it really is. For sure it's a bigger camera, but compared to others it's in the middle range.

CameraSize comparison - https://j.mp/2TzKZHt

But yes, bizarre price.


I mean, you're comparing it to interchangeable lens cameras...only the Q in there is a fixed lens 'compact', and it's significantly smaller. See the link I posted earlier to see just how much bigger it is than the RX1R II, which has a very similar lens and presumably image quality. It's a massive difference.

For my thoughts, if the fixed lens compact is both the same size or larger, as well as significantly more expensive than an interchangeable lens camera with a similar lens affixed, then what's the point of the fixed lens camera? You're paying extra money to be locked into a single focal length, and not even gaining any compactness in the process.

I'd take a Fuji X100V over this thing any day of the week, and that's even if they were the same price...since the Fuji is 1/4 the price, it's even better. While it's a smaller sensor, at least it's smaller, much thinner and offers something unique and positive in the shooting experience (an OVF / EVF hybrid). I'd also take the RX1R II over this any day of the week...heck there the ZV1 doesn't even have an image quality advantage I'd imagine based on how good the lens on that camera is.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. Wow...a built in android device on the back for editing photos: First - no one is doing high end serious editing on a 4" touchscreen. This will be used for quick sharing of photos from the field - something every modern camera can do anyway by Wi-Fi to your phone. And most cameras (Sony being the only one not) can do basic RAW conversion in camera before exporting to the phone.

A very slight convenience increase on that part is not worth dumping almost all physical controls from the camera...a decision that will make this a royal pain to shoot with. Touchscreens are great to supplement physical controls, not to replace them.



Oct 29, 2020 at 09:35 AM
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p.28 #17 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


MikeEvangelist wrote:
Sure, here you go...

https://j.mp/35HOZLL


Ok, that was quick! Now, can you please buy me one of each and send them overnight to ...




Oct 29, 2020 at 09:40 AM
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p.28 #18 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


chiron wrote:
Ok, that was quick!


The CameraSize.com site makes it pretty easy.



Oct 29, 2020 at 09:43 AM
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p.28 #19 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


MikeEvangelist wrote:
The CameraSize.com site makes it pretty easy.


Pretty similar in size with the Leica SL/SL2 but without the viewfinder bump on the top. Also same price as the SL2.



Oct 29, 2020 at 09:47 AM
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p.28 #20 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera


Too big for me.
But obviously some want it bigger. Maybe it is a suitable camera for these people?

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1664234/0

But I'm very excited about the performance...


Jman13 wrote:
I mean, you're comparing it to interchangeable lens cameras...only the Q in there is a fixed lens 'compact', and it's significantly smaller. See the link I posted earlier to see just how much bigger it is than the RX1R II, which has a very similar lens and presumably image quality. It's a massive difference.

For my thoughts, if the fixed lens compact is both the same size or larger, as well as significantly more expensive than an interchangeable lens camera with a similar lens affixed, then what's the point of the fixed lens camera? You're paying extra money to be
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