p.27 #1 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
I'm sensing the release of this camera could be a repeat of the Contax N digital camera debacle, which was first announced in 2000 to great fanfare, finally released in 2002, receiving a mostly negative reception, and ultimately discontinued in 2003, barely a year later.
Something, something, George Santayana, history, condemned to repeat it, etc.
p.27 #2 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
I was looking around for ZX1 news and came across one writer who was told the likely price would be $4200, under $5000 for sure. Article was March 2019, but inflation is non-existent. B&H list the very desirable Q2 at $5000, you would think every dollar above that would cost Zeiss sales. SSDs are under $100. The CC from Adobe is a cut down version. Better alternatives will get better fast.
p.27 #4 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Do they give you a Zeiss stylus and can you dial up a file list, access metadata? Rename and search for past files, set up folders. Their video shows an email address magically filling itself in. It will be the small things that will drive users mad - well, madder than before they bought one.
p.27 #6 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
From KR (welcome to point out any errors):
36 MP (iPhone does 60 MP panoramas).
35mm f/2 lens (iPhone has 13mm f/2.4, 26mm f/1.8, 26mm f/2.2 (front) and 56mm f/2 equivalent lenses).
35mm f/2 Bokeh (iPhone lets us set the aperture, 50mm equivalent, from f/1.4 to f/16 — even after we've shot our photo!)
3 FPS (iPhone shoots continuously at 10 FPS, just hold shutter button and slide left).
ISO 51,200 (iPhone shoots under moonlight and the Milky Way hand-held).
4.3" rear touch LCD (iPhone 11 Pro Max is 6.1" OLED).
Built-in Lightroom CC (iPhone App Store has zillions of free apps like my favorite Snapseed, and $6,000 buys a lot of paid apps like PhotoPills I use to see where the sun and moon will be).
512 GB internal SSD (my iPhone also has 512GB of storage).
Potential for automatic backups (iPhone does this magically with iCloud).
4K 30 video (iPhone does 4K 60).
Ability to organize photos into collections (iPhone does this automatically).
No flash (iPhone has a color-changing self-optimizing LED for a flash).
Looks like a Sigma body (iPhone looks like an iPhone).
No card slot.
No GPS (iPhone has GPS, critical to sorting and finding photos by location in the future, and also always sets the clock perfectly).
No mention of battery life. (iPhone runs all day and night).
No mention of weather sealing. (iPhone is sealed).
...
Does it beat iPhone and the Snapseed app? I doubt it. The ZX1 has WiFi and Bluetooth — but no cellular — so maybe you can connect it to your iPhone while actually out shooting to connect.
p.27 #8 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Desmolicious wrote:
From KR (welcome to point out any errors):
36 MP (iPhone does 60 MP panoramas).
35mm f/2 lens (iPhone has 13mm f/2.4, 26mm f/1.8, 26mm f/2.2 (front) and 56mm f/2 equivalent lenses).
35mm f/2 Bokeh (iPhone lets us set the aperture, 50mm equivalent, from f/1.4 to f/16 — even after we've shot our photo!)
3 FPS (iPhone shoots continuously at 10 FPS, just hold shutter button and slide left).
ISO 51,200 (iPhone shoots under moonlight and the Milky Way hand-held).
4.3" rear touch LCD (iPhone 11 Pro Max is 6.1" OLED).
Built-in Lightroom CC (iPhone App Store has zillions of free apps like my favorite Snapseed, and $6,000 buys a lot of paid apps like PhotoPills I use to see where the sun and moon will be).
512 GB internal SSD (my iPhone also has 512GB of storage).
Potential for automatic backups (iPhone does this magically with iCloud).
4K 30 video (iPhone does 4K 60).
Ability to organize photos into collections (iPhone does this automatically).
No flash (iPhone has a color-changing self-optimizing LED for a flash).
Looks like a Sigma body (iPhone looks like an iPhone).
No card slot.
No GPS (iPhone has GPS, critical to sorting and finding photos by location in the future, and also always sets the clock perfectly).
No mention of battery life. (iPhone runs all day and night).
No mention of weather sealing. (iPhone is sealed).
...
Does it beat iPhone and the Snapseed app? I doubt it. The ZX1 has WiFi and Bluetooth — but no cellular — so maybe you can connect it to your iPhone while actually out shooting to connect....Show more →
Well it looks like your phone with Snapseed is your dream camera...have at it. I personally applaud Zeiss for stepping out of the box and moving more towards the billions of people that use a phone for their photography and have no inclination of ever stepping back into the prehistoric complex cameras we all love. I just don't see the future revolving around the cameras of today...not with the young crowds that have grown up on using their phones 24/7 for every aspect of their lives.
Sure this effort by Zeiss might bomb...but it's an effort forward...not stagnated in the past.
p.27 #9 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Fred Miranda wrote:
Honestly we don't know what the price will be. B&H Photo posted $6,000 for a day and then removed it. There is no word from Zeiss. This confusion actually made things even worse for this release imo. I wish there was more transparency from Zeiss.
So there's hope. Hopefully it won't take another two years to realize they need to be more like $4K
p.27 #10 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
chez wrote:
Well it looks like your phone with Snapseed is your dream camera...have at it. I personally applaud Zeiss for stepping out of the box and moving more towards the billions of people that use a phone for their photography and have no inclination of ever stepping back into the prehistoric complex cameras we all love. I just don't see the future revolving around the cameras of today...not with the young crowds that have grown up on using their phones 24/7 for every aspect of their lives.
Sure this effort by Zeiss might bomb...but it's an effort forward...not stagnated in the past....Show more →
p.27 #12 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Audii-Dudii wrote:
I'm sensing the release of this camera could be a repeat of the Contax N digital camera debacle, which was first announced in 2000 to great fanfare, finally released in 2002, receiving a mostly negative reception, and ultimately discontinued in 2003, barely a year later.
I don't think this camera will that be that bad. With the Contax N you couldn't preview/check your raw files after you shot them, also it was a super power hungry camera running on NiMH batteries..
p.27 #13 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
As far as that fan club goes, I already have the domain ready for when the camera launches. It will be a site just like zeissimages or leicaimages but focused on the zx camera.
I heard availability may be announced in EU next week. Don't know for sure
p.27 #14 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Desmolicious wrote:
From KR (welcome to point out any errors):
35mm f/2 lens (iPhone has 13mm f/2.4, 26mm f/1.8, 26mm f/2.2 (front) and 56mm f/2 equivalent lenses).
So I guess Ken doesn't understand equivalency? The iPhone has 13mm f20, 26mm f11, and 52mm f17 equivalent 35mm lenses.
Silly comparisons aside, I think the ZX1 will have a unique value proposition if Zeiss can nail the UI and user experience. As long as you're happy with the Adobe ecosystem too that is. The lens and image quality will likely be excellent, and personally speaking the aesthetics are gorgeous, if a bit larger than I'd like (even if it's to accommodate a large screen for edits). I don't have the disposable income for a camera like this, but for those that do I think there are good reasons to like this camera.
p.27 #17 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
The ZEISS ZX1 is a truly innovative camera with an uncompromising position on all facets of photography. Also innovatively true and positionally uncompromising, and photographically facetious.
'It's all in the bend of the display, that was the real breakthrough.' 'we as a team got into the flow from the very beginning'. 'from the early phase we gave the concept to the photographers and see how they are working with it.' 'now is the time to combine classical photography with the elements of ease of use..'
'Get your pre-orders ready!'
BH can't give you a price but they can do this for you: 'Lease for as low as $208/month.'
p.27 #19 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
I think I'll preorder.
I was always dissatisfied with the quality of the pics I was sending to my wife's phone. You know, those pics of price tags and products at Costco, with a text note "honey, should I buy this, how many of them"? I was never getting the colors right, the lighting was poor, and there was a lot of iso noise. Very poor and many time misleading representations of the actual item.
I have pondered for a while whether I should cary my A7 and then process the pics in Lightroom mobile before sending. But the whole process seemed to be quite cumbersome so I abandoned the idea.
But now, with the advent of the ZX1, I can do all that, in one single process, in the camera! Oh wow what a gift from heaven!
p.27 #20 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
"Innovative Camera Concept from ZEISS: Full-Frame and Full Connectivity for Creative Photography Workflow on the go
The ZEISS ZX1 is now available in the United States and Germany
-Hardware and software for a seamless creative process “Shoot. Edit. Share.”
-Newly developed ZEISS Distagon 35 mm lens with perfectly matched ZEISS sensor for maximum image quality – without any compromises in the photographic process
-Combination of new camera technology and Adobe Photoshop LightroomTM features built right in
-Multi-award-winning ergonomic design allows high photo and video quality and the intuitive photo editing and publishing of smartphones"
"Oberkochen, Germany | 29 October 2020 | ZEISS Consumer Products
The ZEISS ZX1 is now available at selected dealers in the United States and Germany. “The concept of the ZEISS ZX1 opens up new ways in digital and connected photography,” said Jörg Schmitz, Head of ZEISS Consumer Products on the sales start. “The ZEISS ZX1 combines the potential and superior image quality of a full-frame camera with the mobile experience and intuitive use of smartphones for photography.” The sales start has been long awaited in the community. "We have once again worked intensively on the overall workflow and the smooth integration of hardware and software and are convinced that it was worth the wait," adds Schmitz."
"Cameras from ZEISS?
A Look at the History of Cameras"
Interesting read here:
"It is common knowledge that ZEISS was founded in 1846 as an optical workshop and has been building excellent camera lenses since 1890. Only die-hard photography enthusiasts know, however, that ZEISS subsidiaries have also been manufacturing high-quality cameras since the turn of the century. Read more about the company's long tradition, which has yielded countless innovations in the field of photography and whose influence has had a major impact on the development of the German camera industry. Famous names and legendary cameras are tightly intertwined with the name ZEISS."
