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Archive 2015Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
p.3 #1Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
The 50 MP samples are cool, but it's a shame about the DR and ISO. Looks like it will be more of a niche camera (nothing wrong with that, just likely reduces the customer base quite significantly).
Anyone see mention of faster FPS in crop modes? Or spot metering at any AF point? I haven't yet but I'm still reading.
Anyone see mention of faster FPS in crop modes? Or spot metering at any AF point? I haven't yet but I'm still reading.
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:49 PM
p.3 #2Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
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Feb 05, 2015 at 10:51 PM
p.3 #3Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
In many ways it is WORSE than my current 5D3!!!!
Sorry, which ways are those?
This is the first thing from Canon to pique my interest in years.
In many ways it is WORSE than my current 5D3!!!!
Sorry, which ways are those?
This is the first thing from Canon to pique my interest in years.
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:52 PM
p.3 #4Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
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Feb 05, 2015 at 10:53 PM
p.3 #5Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Wow, my 500L and I are drooling over that sample shot of the hippo! 
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:53 PM
p.3 #6Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Ken Rockwell did something weird with the images on his site. The ones posted by Canon look much better. One is the same shot.
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:54 PM
p.3 #7Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
They not only don't offer clean HDMI out they don't even offer HDMI out at all!
They also removed not only headphone jack but mic jac at all so audio can only be through internal mic and internal audio amp or a completely external system!
Don't know where you get your info, but the pictures of the camera clearly show HDMI out and microphone in. So I distrust the other "info" in your post too.
They not only don't offer clean HDMI out they don't even offer HDMI out at all!
They also removed not only headphone jack but mic jac at all so audio can only be through internal mic and internal audio amp or a completely external system!
Don't know where you get your info, but the pictures of the camera clearly show HDMI out and microphone in. So I distrust the other "info" in your post too.
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:55 PM
p.3 #8Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Me thinks someone needs to put skibum5 on suicide watch.
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:55 PM
p.3 #9Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
I'm truly stunned and in the worst way possible. I can't believe how far they have lost the plot.
It's worse than ever single worst case rumor pegged it and the price is $200 more than the rumors!!
In many ways it is WORSE than my current 5D3!!!!
The worst part is June 15 availability. Canon must be really desperate. Obviously this is a white elephant with a short life.
EBH
I'm truly stunned and in the worst way possible. I can't believe how far they have lost the plot.
It's worse than ever single worst case rumor pegged it and the price is $200 more than the rumors!!
In many ways it is WORSE than my current 5D3!!!!
The worst part is June 15 availability. Canon must be really desperate. Obviously this is a white elephant with a short life.
EBH
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:56 PM
p.3 #10Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
I was hoping for some increased FPS in crop mode. That would have made me consider this over a 7DII to add for maximum reach scenarios. I would have liked to have used the 50MP for some landscapes and the crop mode for reach on distant birds. I think with the specs as they are, I'll pass on this offering, get a 7DII and save $$ for a future 1DXII.
That all said, I hope some people will find enough to like in this camera to purchase it. It should meet some specific needs for certain photographers. It will be interesting to see what the a7rII/a9 brings to the table to compete.
That all said, I hope some people will find enough to like in this camera to purchase it. It should meet some specific needs for certain photographers. It will be interesting to see what the a7rII/a9 brings to the table to compete.
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:56 PM
p.3 #11Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
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Feb 05, 2015 at 10:57 PM
p.3 #12Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
Oh brother! Not even a mention of more DR in this release so it's probably just a scaled up 7D2 sensor!
[EDIT: it's practically confirmed that it is just a scaled up 7D2 sensor with a new CFA array!
]
It doesn't even offer more speed in crop mode like Nikons do! A Nikon FF can give you high MP in FF for landscapes and then high fps and high reach for field sports and wildlife in cropped modes.
The video is even lower spec than the 5D2 never mind 5D3 never mind a 5D3 with ML! Wow no 4k, not even...Show more →
Canon appears to be trying to switch their strategy and make cameras for niches instead of a jack of all trades. Obviously, this camera is not filling the niche you're interested in.
Oh brother! Not even a mention of more DR in this release so it's probably just a scaled up 7D2 sensor!
[EDIT: it's practically confirmed that it is just a scaled up 7D2 sensor with a new CFA array!
]It doesn't even offer more speed in crop mode like Nikons do! A Nikon FF can give you high MP in FF for landscapes and then high fps and high reach for field sports and wildlife in cropped modes.
The video is even lower spec than the 5D2 never mind 5D3 never mind a 5D3 with ML! Wow no 4k, not even...Show more →
Canon appears to be trying to switch their strategy and make cameras for niches instead of a jack of all trades. Obviously, this camera is not filling the niche you're interested in.
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:57 PM
p.3 #13Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
artd wrote:
Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.Very disappointing to me to hear that. The most disappointing thing being that the forums will now be clogged for at least several more years of arguing about the benefits of dynamic range
Or rather clogged with posts downplaying or disputing the benefits of higher DR.
The benefits are clear enough.
supermario343 wrote
RobDickinson wrote
Dpreview video (with canon) says dynamic range is the same as the 5d3.Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.
Or rather clogged with posts downplaying or disputing the benefits of higher DR.
The benefits are clear enough.
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:57 PM
p.3 #14Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
I'll let others on this forum talk about DR ad nauseam, but I'm def curious to see if Canon improved their colours and true pixel quality with this "new CFA array" (I'm not too familiar with the technology behind it)
As someone with many full-time studio colleagues, I know this could be an important factor for a lot of studio/commercial photographers.. Canon lenses + 50MP + great colour fidelity at ISO100 in studio at $3700 would be hard to look away from. For me I want true colour reproduction in any lighting conditions, not just natural light, and I look forward to playing with the RAW files once they become available.
Hope Canon didn't just scale up existing technologies and go for the "Hey we have a FIFTY mp camera, we're the best" marketing ploy with this.
PS. the 11-24L interests me a ton.. but that price is steep for someone who doesn't shoot interiors for a living.
As someone with many full-time studio colleagues, I know this could be an important factor for a lot of studio/commercial photographers.. Canon lenses + 50MP + great colour fidelity at ISO100 in studio at $3700 would be hard to look away from. For me I want true colour reproduction in any lighting conditions, not just natural light, and I look forward to playing with the RAW files once they become available.
Hope Canon didn't just scale up existing technologies and go for the "Hey we have a FIFTY mp camera, we're the best" marketing ploy with this.
PS. the 11-24L interests me a ton.. but that price is steep for someone who doesn't shoot interiors for a living.
Feb 05, 2015 at 10:58 PM
p.3 #15Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Cheer up...there will be Nikon D5 with 173 AF points 
http://nikonrumors.com/2015/02/05/first-nikon-d5-rumors.aspx/#comments
http://nikonrumors.com/2015/02/05/first-nikon-d5-rumors.aspx/#comments
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:01 PM
p.3 #16Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
Oh brother! Not even a mention of more DR in this release so it's probably just a scaled up 7D2 sensor!
[EDIT: it's practically confirmed that it is just a scaled up 7D2 sensor with a new CFA array! ]
It doesn't even offer more speed in crop mode like Nikons do! A Nikon FF can give you high MP in FF for landscapes and then high fps and high reach for field sports and wildlife in cropped modes.
The video is even lower spec than the 5D2 never mind 5D3 never mind a 5D3 with ML! Wow no 4k, not even...Show more →
Do you realize that it isn't a 5d4?
Oh brother! Not even a mention of more DR in this release so it's probably just a scaled up 7D2 sensor!
[EDIT: it's practically confirmed that it is just a scaled up 7D2 sensor with a new CFA array!
]It doesn't even offer more speed in crop mode like Nikons do! A Nikon FF can give you high MP in FF for landscapes and then high fps and high reach for field sports and wildlife in cropped modes.
The video is even lower spec than the 5D2 never mind 5D3 never mind a 5D3 with ML! Wow no 4k, not even...Show more →
Do you realize that it isn't a 5d4?
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:02 PM
p.3 #17Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Announced. Not released. :-) The bodies are said to be coming in June, with the lens likely sooner.
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:03 PM
p.3 #18Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
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Feb 05, 2015 at 11:03 PM
p.3 #19Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
kaycephoto wrote:
Hope Canon didn't just scale up existing technologies and go for the "Hey we have a FIFTY mp camera, we're the best" marketing ploy with this.
That appears to be exactly what they did, unfortunately. Canon claims ISO performance similar to 7DII (which is weird since it has a way lower ISO ceiling), and they confirmed DR is the same as the 5DM3, which is worse than the 6D.
It's looking more and more like 50MP is all it has going for it over a 5DM3, or the cheaper D810 for that matter.
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Hope Canon didn't just scale up existing technologies and go for the "Hey we have a FIFTY mp camera, we're the best" marketing ploy with this.
That appears to be exactly what they did, unfortunately. Canon claims ISO performance similar to 7DII (which is weird since it has a way lower ISO ceiling), and they confirmed DR is the same as the 5DM3, which is worse than the 6D.
It's looking more and more like 50MP is all it has going for it over a 5DM3, or the cheaper D810 for that matter.
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Feb 05, 2015 at 11:03 PM
p.3 #20Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.Unreal.
It took 4 years to respond to the D800 and it's basically worse in most ways other than for 14more MP!
The D810 stops over it every which way other than for 14MP!
They actually gave it less video specs than even the 5D2! Never mind the 5D3!
I've got to say, this seems like an epic failure from Canon.
RobDickinson wrote
Dpreview video (with canon) says dynamic range is the same as the 5d3.Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.
It took 4 years to respond to the D800 and it's basically worse in most ways other than for 14more MP!
The D810 stops over it every which way other than for 14MP!
They actually gave it less video specs than even the 5D2! Never mind the 5D3!
I've got to say, this seems like an epic failure from Canon.
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:03 PM