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p.4 #1Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
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Feb 05, 2015 at 11:04 PM
p.4 #2Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
kewlcanon wrote:
Cheer up...there will be Nikon D5 with 173 AF points
http://nikonrumors.com/2015/02/05/first-nikon-d5-rumors.aspx/#comments
I was just reading about that too
I am really hoping for some 1DXII rumours once all this 5Ds crap settles down.
That said, 173 AF points sounds a little crazy
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Cheer up...there will be Nikon D5 with 173 AF points
http://nikonrumors.com/2015/02/05/first-nikon-d5-rumors.aspx/#comments
I was just reading about that too I am really hoping for some 1DXII rumours once all this 5Ds crap settles down.That said, 173 AF points sounds a little crazy
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Feb 05, 2015 at 11:04 PM
p.4 #3Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Bronxbombers is acting like a drama queen now
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:04 PM
p.4 #4Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
arbitrage wrote:
I found this interesting From DPreview:
It's convenient to think of the new 50MP as essentially an upscaled version of the 20MP sensor inside the EOS 7D Mark II - minus the 7D II's Dual-pixel AF. The pixel pitch of 4.14 microns is certainly very similar across both sensors. Accordingly, Canon tells us that at a pixel level, noise levels should be very similar to the EOS 7D Mark II and slightly better than what we'd expect from a 5D Mark II (note: not a 5D Mark III). Oddly though, maximum ISO sensitivity is capped at ISO 6400, which extends only...Show more →
All these are indeed very odd. So they upscaled the sensor but crippled it here and there. How clever!
I found this interesting From DPreview:
It's convenient to think of the new 50MP as essentially an upscaled version of the 20MP sensor inside the EOS 7D Mark II - minus the 7D II's Dual-pixel AF. The pixel pitch of 4.14 microns is certainly very similar across both sensors. Accordingly, Canon tells us that at a pixel level, noise levels should be very similar to the EOS 7D Mark II and slightly better than what we'd expect from a 5D Mark II (note: not a 5D Mark III). Oddly though, maximum ISO sensitivity is capped at ISO 6400, which extends only...Show more →
All these are indeed very odd. So they upscaled the sensor but crippled it here and there. How clever!
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:06 PM
p.4 #5Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
This camera will flop and will be one of canon's least successful dslr's
the lens is interesting. its massive, and expensive, but definitely interesting. would be cool to see some test and samples.
the lens is interesting. its massive, and expensive, but definitely interesting. would be cool to see some test and samples.
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:06 PM
p.4 #6Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
They also removed not only headphone jack but mic jac at all so audio can only be through internal mic and internal audio amp or a completely external system!Don't know where you get your info, but the pictures of the camera clearly show HDMI out and microphone in. So I distrust the other "info" in your post too.DPR review said no HDMI and mic
maybe they got it wrong
This pic is from that same review
Monito wrote
skibum5 wrote
They not only don't offer clean HDMI out they don't even offer HDMI out at all!They also removed not only headphone jack but mic jac at all so audio can only be through internal mic and internal audio amp or a completely external system!
maybe they got it wrong
This pic is from that same review
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:07 PM
p.4 #7Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
I'm truly stunned
No argument there.
I'm truly stunned
No argument there.
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:07 PM
p.4 #8Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Remember canon have a habit of making cameras look not so great on spec but work very well.
This wont be a flop or a bad camera(s) but the lack of improvement in DR in this supposedly landscape focused body is crazy.
This wont be a flop or a bad camera(s) but the lack of improvement in DR in this supposedly landscape focused body is crazy.
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:07 PM
p.4 #9Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
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Feb 05, 2015 at 11:07 PM
p.4 #10Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
It DOES exists" They do Exist"
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:08 PM
p.4 #11Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
DPR review said no HDMI and mic
maybe they got it wrong
DPReview also said focal length multiplier 1.6x but they have since changed that to 1x.
Maybe they will change their text to match their pictures.
DPR review said no HDMI and mic
maybe they got it wrong
DPReview also said focal length multiplier 1.6x but they have since changed that to 1x.
Maybe they will change their text to match their pictures.
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:09 PM
p.4 #12Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Chuck Brit wrote:
Me thinks someone needs to put skibum5 on suicide watch.
Haha. No worries it's just cameras which are no big matter on the grand scheme of things.
Me thinks someone needs to put skibum5 on suicide watch.
Haha. No worries it's just cameras which are no big matter on the grand scheme of things.
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:09 PM
p.4 #13Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Jpegs look better than usual but that is probably mostly due to the better sharpening.
We'll see what the DR really is. At pixel level it's supposed to be 7d2 like, which should put it at a 12.5 or so on DXO I believe. (My math could be off).
It looks pretty good and price isn't too bad. I don't get the whining about lack of video features. I do get the whining about lack of DR improvement (we'll see when raws come out though, if it's 6d like at the pixel level it's honestly a good improvement)
We'll see what the DR really is. At pixel level it's supposed to be 7d2 like, which should put it at a 12.5 or so on DXO I believe. (My math could be off).
It looks pretty good and price isn't too bad. I don't get the whining about lack of video features. I do get the whining about lack of DR improvement (we'll see when raws come out though, if it's 6d like at the pixel level it's honestly a good improvement)
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:10 PM
p.4 #14Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
So why is no one talking about the new T6s....its got even more pixels per area and 5fps.......
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p.4 #15Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
The instant angst in this thread is hilarious.
The sample shot of the downtown buildings is quite impressive. I'll be ordering one.
The sample shot of the downtown buildings is quite impressive. I'll be ordering one.
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:11 PM
p.4 #16Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
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Feb 05, 2015 at 11:11 PM
p.4 #17Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
gdanmitchell wrote:
The instant angst in this thread is hilarious.
The sample shot of the downtown buildings is quite impressive. I'll be ordering one.
You are sure you can carry a heavy 50MP cam ?.
The instant angst in this thread is hilarious.
The sample shot of the downtown buildings is quite impressive. I'll be ordering one.
You are sure you can carry a heavy 50MP cam ?
.Feb 05, 2015 at 11:12 PM
p.4 #18Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
645z ... I'm going all-in. Okay, maybe not just yet. I'll wait to see the "R" reviews first. 
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:13 PM
p.4 #19Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
I'll read on this more tomorrow, but so far my impression is:
Sensor: upscaled from 70D/7D II sensor but crippled (lower capped ISO, no DPAF, etc)
Body: similar to that of the 5D III but crippled (lower FPS which is reasonable considering the higher MP, reduced video capabilities, etc)
And on top of these, crop mode has no increased FPS.
Low-pass or no low-pass, it's a pass for me on these.
Sensor: upscaled from 70D/7D II sensor but crippled (lower capped ISO, no DPAF, etc)
Body: similar to that of the 5D III but crippled (lower FPS which is reasonable considering the higher MP, reduced video capabilities, etc)
And on top of these, crop mode has no increased FPS.
Low-pass or no low-pass, it's a pass for me on these.
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:14 PM
p.4 #20Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
skibum5 wrote:
Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.Unreal.
It took 4 years to respond to the D800 and it's basically worse in most ways other than for 14more MP!
The D810 stops over it every which way other than for 14MP!
They actually gave it less video specs than even the 5D2! Never mind the 5D3!
altough I essentially agree with you, if we were to nitpick, even 5d3 had a better AF than d800, and I am sure this is about 5ds also. but yes, epic fail. I am sure there is a niche market, say professional studio shooting that may have preference towards canon lenses, does not care about DR (studio lighting) or video, which would like this camera. looking at with nikon offers in the d810 and d750, its just baffling what canon is doing.
I think the crippling of video is really the last straw for this camera. Its one thing if you just cant compete in sensor DR department, but to intentionally cripple features on a camera compared to one from 3 years ago? really?
RobDickinson wrote
Dpreview video (with canon) says dynamic range is the same as the 5d3.Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.
It took 4 years to respond to the D800 and it's basically worse in most ways other than for 14more MP!
The D810 stops over it every which way other than for 14MP!
They actually gave it less video specs than even the 5D2! Never mind the 5D3!
altough I essentially agree with you, if we were to nitpick, even 5d3 had a better AF than d800, and I am sure this is about 5ds also. but yes, epic fail. I am sure there is a niche market, say professional studio shooting that may have preference towards canon lenses, does not care about DR (studio lighting) or video, which would like this camera. looking at with nikon offers in the d810 and d750, its just baffling what canon is doing.
I think the crippling of video is really the last straw for this camera. Its one thing if you just cant compete in sensor DR department, but to intentionally cripple features on a camera compared to one from 3 years ago? really?
Feb 05, 2015 at 11:15 PM