form wrote:
I hope that all the images I am seeing are OOC jpgs and that the type of blotchy colors I'm seeing aren't going to happen with RAW output. Like, in the closeup of eyes I see a yellow/green splotch running along the bottom of each eyebrow, and on the clumped hairs I see magenta and yellow/green patches all over the place.
I'd hate to think this is what the sensor is seeing, because that's not accurate. It looks like color "staining" of the eyebrow hairs and skin, etc.
So, that is "all the images" you are seeing? One. You certainly like to be a contrarian.
form wrote:
This is just a cheapo dell basic panel. I don't use it for editing, but it picks up on virtually ANY color variance at all and makes it glaringly obvious. If I looked at the same image on my old workhorse CRT I use for editing, I'd probably never notice...however a print will show color deviations more obviously like this cheapo monitor does.
Well actually the sample images of an urn taken at high ISOs in the last few days and floating around the internet show some odd color shift blotches around the darks/blacks too...and so do other images with darks that have some detail/contrast.
Game Changer wrote:
I shot 300+ images at a sporting event last night and I just now discovered that I cannot upload the D4S RAW files to Lightroom 5. I didn't see an update in Creative Cloud either. I found the ACR beta plugin, but I want to use LR5. I guess in the meantime I can convert the RAW files to DNG and upload to LR5.
Come on Adobe...get with the program!
Oh really....
This is definitely a bit of an issue. My D4s isn't in yet, but this worries me. Can photoshop CS6 do a batch conversion of nef files to dng? I've never had to do anything like that. When the D4 came out LR 4 was already updated a week ahead of time.
form wrote:
Well actually the sample images of an urn taken at high ISOs in the last few days and floating around the internet show some odd color shift blotches around the darks/blacks too...and so do other images with darks that have some detail/contrast.
It's a big internet, please refer me to those images before my camera is shipped. I've seen many images at high ISO and not seen color shifts.
Something else very noteworthy...pay attention to how the noise/luminance/etc. looks rather a bit like uniform pointillism...how noise dots are lined up in a strangely uniform way with a kind of equidistant pattern, and how there are actually lines of more/less dots producing lighter and darker lines, maybe 10-20 pixels wide in a basically square patterning? Also easiest to see in the darks/blacks.
You're kidding. It blows my D4 away. These have not had NR applied. The ISO 69K are impressive for 69K. Do you own a camera that handles ISO that good? Again, I think you are just trying hard to be a contrarian.
I'm actually just hoping that these are all from in-camera JPG products and that using your own RAW converter (lightroom etc.) will not show some of these things.
However the shot that I was concerned with initially (blotches of yellow/magenta in dark areas of detail) was taken at only...ISO3200.
I have always ever tried to be objectively critical. In truth, I'd like to see the camera excel because it may be the only thing that could make me consider Nikon in the long term (both from business and quality angles). I tend to like everything about Canon except their very shadow-noisy/inflexible images at low ISO (and the 5d3's colors I don't like, and the 5d3's new focus-pause-focus-lock AF delay system), but I have a D800 solely because of the sensor's low ISO dynamic range. It would be nice if Nikon also did some other things better than Canon, like having really fast-focusing primes and offering better high ISO noise. Right now, the 1dx has pretty much the lead position for dynamic range retention at sensibly high ISO settings, and Canon has faster-focusing prime lenses for the most part.
The overall end-result of the noise control in the D4s is obviously very good in many ways, but I am just concerned about the implications of the appearance of the noise it does have (largely an artificial/patterned look and some off-color blotching) and am hoping it's just because they're in-camera JPG.
kwilliam8 wrote:
Can anyone confirm whether the Really Right Stuff BD4-L (L-Plate for Nikon D4) fits the new Nikon D4S? I am hoping that someone that actually has both (BD4-L and the D4S) can try them to check the fit. Thanks in advance.
Keith W.
form wroteit may be the only thing that could make me consider Nikon in the long term (both from business and quality angles). I tend to like everything about Canon except
Not trying to insult you, but man, it must be hilarious to watch you try to pick out groceries or anything that's less than perfect. Let's see, this apple has 3.4 blemishes, this apple is .08% too large, this one may have been picked by someone who didn't wash their hands....
form wrote:
I hope that all the images I am seeing are OOC jpgs and that the type of blotchy colors I'm seeing aren't going to happen with RAW output. Like, in the closeup of eyes I see a yellow/green splotch running along the bottom of each eyebrow, and on the clumped hairs I see magenta and yellow/green patches all over the place.
I'd hate to think this is what the sensor is seeing, because that's not accurate. It looks like color "staining" of the eyebrow hairs and skin, etc.
Either I'm not looking hard enough or I don't see them on my monitor. And it's a calibrated NEC".
Are you considering buying a D4s? What do you current have in your inventory?
form wrote:
I'm actually just hoping that these are all from in-camera JPG products and that using your own RAW converter (lightroom etc.) will not show some of these things.
However the shot that I was concerned with initially (blotches of yellow/magenta in dark areas of detail) was taken at only...ISO3200.
I have always ever tried to be objectively critical. In truth, I'd like to see the camera excel because it may be the only thing that could make me consider Nikon in the long term (both from business and quality angles). I tend to like everything about Canon except their very shadow-noisy/inflexible images at low ISO (and the 5d3's colors I don't like, and the 5d3's new focus-pause-focus-lock AF delay system), but I have a D800 solely because of the sensor's low ISO dynamic range. It would be nice if Nikon also did some other things better than Canon, like having really fast-focusing primes and offering better high ISO noise. Right now, the 1dx has pretty much the lead position for dynamic range retention at sensibly high ISO settings, and Canon has faster-focusing prime lenses for the most part....Show more →
that last part is an opinion that tends to be only shared by those using that particular camera (which of course is to expected). there have been attempts to woo me back to the C product. but so far it has not been an option.
Nikon_14 wrote:
Not trying to insult you, but man, it must be hilarious to watch you try to pick out groceries or anything that's less than perfect. Let's see, this apple has 3.4 blemishes, this apple is .08% too large, this one may have been picked by someone who didn't wash their hands....
