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p.1109 #1 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Lovely images on here as usual.

I'm a lurker and 'liker' but often too lazy to comment specifically.

I just sold my CV 35/1.4 MC and I'm waiting for a Konica M-Hexanon 35/2 to arrive. Looking forward to that on y M9.

Homage to the CV 35/1.4 on my also-departed M8 here.






























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Mar 06, 2015 at 03:35 AM
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p.1109 #2 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thank you Zhangyue and Charlie. I agree with Zhangyue assessment of the distagon. Wonderful captures both of you!


Mar 06, 2015 at 03:36 AM
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p.1109 #3 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Guys, nice images!
I'm curious to try the 35/1.4 ZM, but I'm happy with my 35FLE.

zhangyue - My first impression of the lens (120APO) is that it's boring. The bokeh seems very Sigma in nature. Almost plastic looking. Also the falloff has "issues" I'll address this with photos when I can.
The good point is that it has great separation for full body shots, or half body horizontal crops. It doesn't really feel like a 85mm. It feels a lot more like a 135mm if you're thinking DSLR terms.
I haven't spent enough time with it to hate it. But I'm not hopeful. One of the things I noticed immediately with the 70summarit was the fact that it felt strange (in a good way), much better then using FF. The 120APO seems to familiar. Really like the Canon 135L in many ways, but with the ability to knock the subject out of the background easier at all distances. And with a touch more breathing room, but still feels claustrophobic.
The Macro function seems not close enough... So much so, I find myself needing to back up off of a framing choice as the lens hits minimum focusing often. I think this lens should come with extension tubes.

The 35 Summarit-S seems like it would have been a better second lens. I'm thinking of getting it, but need to do a few more shoots to decide if I want to fall that deep in with the S-system.

As for the type of work I know you like doing. Mainly documenting family life, your children. I think sticking with the 35/70 seems like the better choice. Although (and not to confuse things) I do remember you having a fondness of the 80 Summilux-R, so perhaps the 120APO might be a comfortable choice for you. I wouldn't say the two lenses are similar, but something while reviewing the 120APO shots made me think about the 80lux.

I'll know more in a few days. I'm going to try to use this lens all weekend. No shoots planned though, so nothing serious to shoot.




Mar 06, 2015 at 05:22 AM
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p.1109 #4 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


" The Bank "





L1000024.jpg by W.Utsch, on Flickr



Mar 06, 2015 at 05:41 AM
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p.1109 #5 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thanks all, for the likes!

Looking forward to seeing more from the ZM 35/1.4!
Lenticular/David - really enjoyed your set. I think that combo is underrated, based on your results.

Adam: what about the 100/2 Summicron? Maybe not enough focal length difference from the 70? Though emulating your M system, maybe a 45/100 combo would give you closer to your 35/75 pair, if that's what you're after. I guess the 100 isn't even available yet to try.






















M240 & 90AA which seemed to be glued on the camera much of the time in SLC for some reason... it is a sprawling, spread out city.



Mar 06, 2015 at 11:14 AM
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p.1109 #6 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Love the lines and patterns in this set Ron.


Mar 06, 2015 at 11:58 AM
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p.1109 #7 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Gary Clennan wrote:
Love the lines and patterns in this set Ron.


+1, especially the last shot!



Mar 06, 2015 at 12:59 PM
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p.1109 #8 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Some more shots with the distagon:

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr



Mar 06, 2015 at 01:02 PM
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p.1109 #9 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


adamdewilde wrote:
Guys, nice images!
I'm curious to try the 35/1.4 ZM, but I'm happy with my 35FLE.

zhangyue - My first impression of the lens (120APO) is that it's boring. The bokeh seems very Sigma in nature. Almost plastic looking. Also the falloff has "issues" I'll address this with photos when I can.
The good point is that it has great separation for full body shots, or half body horizontal crops. It doesn't really feel like a 85mm. It feels a lot more like a 135mm if you're thinking DSLR terms.
I haven't spent enough time with it to hate it.
...Show more

Adam, thanks for the heads up and honest opinion. That lens should be up there with very few in terms of optics. I'd love to buy it but it is facing steep competition from Zeiss MP100, APO100 Elmarit and Zeis 135APO from 35mm system. I really love what I see from S system, almost everything but potability and usability. this make me pause acquiring more lens for the system. As I mentioned, for landscape or travelling, S system are nice but it doesn;t make up what I can get from 35mm Nikon system in terms of usability and lens selection. For portrait, it is the best system I ever used but I am not professional, like you said, I mainly document family life. I need think twice before lay $4000+ cash on this focal length. Don't get me wrong that I am happy to use best system for the ones I love but I need prioritize my spending.

The two lens I have combine with S sensor really spoiled me make me want throw away my Nikon lens. sharpness, color and character....

As for 80lux look, I think 100cron might be more close in term of speed and rendering from what I see but sharper. I sold my R lens at the time of thinking get S portrait lens. and those R lens are not good match for D810 for focus ability, I might made the wrong choice that sell them than buy a DF with after market screen. who knows?

As for ZM, yeh, I see no need to lust it if you have 35fle. optics are close and Leica is smaller and still better built IMO.

In term of Bokeh, I think It deserve better remark than most people think (or Edward and I gave). I really should say ZM35 have a quite nice bokeh from 35mm lens land. and optically, this one is equivalent to 50lux ASPH in my book, a strong remark. I wish they can further bring us a 85mm f1.4 at affordable price like this


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Mar 06, 2015 at 01:10 PM
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p.1109 #10 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Edward, wow! ZM35 seems really inspire you.
Ron, another solid set, I agree with Gary and Edward.



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p.1109 #11 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thank you very much Zhangyue!

I have discovered a strange behaviour of the distagon, related to starbursts. The 35 biogon produces well defined starbursts from wide open, but the distagon doesn't until f/11 probably due to the aspherical elements. Below f/11 the starbursts are doubled. Here are 2 photos to illustrate it, first at f/8, second at f/11:

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr

And last 2 shots from Dubai wide open:

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr

M240 ZM 35/1.4 by edward karaa, on Flickr



Mar 06, 2015 at 01:55 PM
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p.1109 #12 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Wow - I'm liking what I see from these ZM35 shots!

Does anyone know where I can go to get a CLA for my Nikkor ltm lens? I know of all the usual places for servicing of Leica glass but am unsure of where to go for Nikkor. It also needs focus adjustment for back focus. Thanks in advance...



Mar 06, 2015 at 02:28 PM
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p.1109 #13 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Edward - Both portraits are great.. I've always found that I could care less about starbursts, and have never factored that into my decision to own a lens. Funny that you mention it though, it's something that would kill owning the lens for K.R.

Ron - Since you mentioned the 100/2, let me explain my decision. I actually REALLY wanted this lens. Several things kept me away from it. One, when I tried the sample at the Leica store, none of my shots were sharp. The lens was either broken or my technique was poor. From what I've read, a few people are saying they've had AF issues with their 100/2 (it really put me off, since I've already had to many issues with my S-system). Yes I know the DOF is shallow, but I've also seen sharp images with this lens, so it makes me think people are getting dud lenses.
Second, I looked at as many samples as were around, and it didn't seem to have the same falloff that I like, and the bokeh was again forced (similar to the 120APO). Which made me question it's usefulness over the 70/2.5 since they're close in length, but the 70mm renders a scene the way I like.
The last thing that kept me away was a bit of a sillier reason, but if I did buy the 100/2, I would sell or not use the 70/2.5 and get a 45/2.8 like you mentioned (I would skip on the 35 at that point as well). The problem with the 45/2.8 isn't the IQ, but the fact that being a 35mm equivalent lens, means I'll definitely need a second body. Switching from the 100 to the 45 would be to frequent in a work day. So I'd be forced to use a second body. Whereas with the 70, I can almost call the S-system a perfect one lens system. And just switch to the 35/120 as needed (which would be infrequently with a 56mm lens as my go to lens).

I'm also waiting to see what the S-007 can do, the 100/2 might look great on it. I'm hoping for usable 6400 ISO, with the almost forced 250th shutter the camera isn't a low light monster, but you could actually shoot in low light with 6400 ISO in your hand
BTW - I like the bold colors in your images. Always do.


zhangyue - I'll agree.. The more I use the S-system, the more I feel spoiled for lens quality. I still really like the very capable 21ZE, 50MPZE, 100MPZE and if they were AF, I'd probably use them to shoot weddings. No complaints about IQ from those lenses, and the rendering is quite pleasing to my eye (plus macro). I'm honestly finding that the 70/2.5 really is all I need for the system. A wide would be nice, and a macro opens up possibility for close focus shots and the odd time I need more reach.. But this really feels like a less is more system. And you know I don't say that lightly. Considering my M lens collection was suppose to be a 3 lens kit, and is now substantially larger (not even gonna put a number on it). EDIT: Just to clarify, I actually still like the 100MPZE better then the 120APO. Though the 120APO is a technically superior lens in every way. (My opinion might change after more use, as I've owned the 100MPZE for YEARS to be fair)


Will try to get some 120APO shots up soon.



Mar 06, 2015 at 04:33 PM
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p.1109 #14 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Adam, everything you said make sense to me. AS I mentioned earlier, I feel Leica didn't bring more lux and cron for the system due to technical challenge of their system, but not they can't build those lens. I donn't know about S006 or 007, but S2 and S2-P I used can't perform consistently even with f2.5 Lens. Because of high performance of lens, the focus accuracy requirement for 36M MF is brutal, I can easily see minor focus error which will be really hard for web size view even resize to 18M.

This is a system for manual focus or slow down f8/f11 studio shooting or long distance shooting(for more DOF error acceptable)

This remind me that I have been thinking why Canikon will never be able to make a 24-70 f2 lens. The assembly tolerance requirement is just too high. You will easily have tons of customer return for focus OK at wide end but off long end, vise-versa....AF fine tune won't cut it.

For leica, simply because their AF hasn't reach to the level of Canikon 10 years ago yet, IMO.

Ron, 100cron is available everywhere now. I hold different view than Adam on this, A superb lens IMO. But if it is really practical, I don't know. Adam;s view about lens selection of S sytem really awake me, having three or four lens that size will be a real burden. not to mention switch back and forth in field. Having said that, depend on how much I enjoy the system, I might still interest in get either 125 or 100 in the future

Edward, I love that building shot. Sunstar is interesting, I will verify for you to see you got a special copy for poor sunstar, haha. But after shooting some landscape myself, I think that is an important spec. It is not up to buy or not level but it is cherry on the top for a lens at this caliber.




Mar 06, 2015 at 05:10 PM
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p.1109 #15 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread







ZM25






ZM25






Nikkor 10.5cm f/2.5 ltm






Nikkor 10.5cm f/2.5 ltm






Nikkor 10.5cm f/2.5 ltm




Mar 06, 2015 at 06:49 PM
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p.1109 #16 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


1. Just wanted to say I always love the photos in this thread and I peruse here often, even though I've never owned a Leica (or a rangefinder for that matter).



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2. My wife and I do fairly well for ourselves (I consider us very fortunate) but who the hell spends that kind of money on a purse? 90k for a handbag? Pure silliness. Photography should be about just that, not brand cachet...

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Mar 06, 2015 at 08:40 PM
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p.1109 #17 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thank you Gary, Adam, Zhangyue!

Gary, that's a freezing set, brrrr I think the usual suspects should be good at Nikkor glass too, dag and sherry should be both able to fix it.
Regarding the starbursts, they're not important if they don't exist, I don't go out of my way looking for them. But when they're there I want them to look nice. One of the reasons I dropped the Sony a7 is because the lenses were producing very ugly flare where starbursts should be present. Due to the sensor thick cover, heavy coma was induced. However in this case I don't think the effect is ugly it's just unusual.



Mar 06, 2015 at 10:19 PM
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p.1109 #18 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thanks guys for the kind words and likes!

Gary - very nice and reminds me I need to take the 105 for a spin sometime!

Edward - you're killing it with the Distagon! Interesting about the starbursts. I don't actually mind if it takes some stopping down for them to become more noticeable, as it will give some options when shooting such scenes for controlling the effect. I recently did some nighttime exterior building shots for a client with the 21 SEM and the starbursts were almost to the point of being obnoxious. I'm still not entirely sold on the Distagon's bokeh in the 3/4 length portrait of your wife and the man... My plan is to use the lens for wedding coverage and I know the guy I shoot those for does not like double-edge background definition... But for everything else, it looks fabulous.

Adam - sounds logical and there is definitely an appeal to a single lens approach. Wondering if you've tried the Contax 645 to Leica S adapter from Leica? Would the Contax 120 macro be an option? I'd guess AF will be painful (assuming it's supported). It seems like Leica is trying to give the impression of the S system as being an 'alt' option for those with collections of various MF lenses... Contax, Hasselblad, Pentax 67...

















M240 & 90AA, 21SEM for last one



Mar 06, 2015 at 10:42 PM
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p.1109 #19 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


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Hey everyone, opening went great 4 red dots tonight...


2 of the 4 red dots



Mar 07, 2015 at 12:17 AM
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p.1109 #20 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


beautiful pictures of the last pages.
here some impressions from the Berner Oberland, Switzerland. Heiligenschwändi, views of Lake Thun.

René












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