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Archive 2009Trying to avoid the 17/4
p.6 #1Trying to avoid the 17/4
That's really good news 
Congrats, this is in fact better news than any photo gear can give! Resist the addiction to EOSfun from the 17 for a while. Recover from the pain of being unemployed first. I guess there are a few more priorities now. Anyway, it's good to hear there is some new perspective (pun) for you and EOSfun from the nicest TS-E in the current line. Good luck to you and your wife 
I now hope, Cliff (Molson) has good news soon as well!
Congrats, this is in fact better news than any photo gear can give! Resist the addiction to EOSfun from the 17 for a while. Recover from the pain of being unemployed first. I guess there are a few more priorities now. Anyway, it's good to hear there is some new perspective (pun) for you and EOSfun from the nicest TS-E in the current line. Good luck to you and your wife I now hope, Cliff (Molson) has good news soon as well!Apr 16, 2010 at 04:26 PM
p.6 #2Trying to avoid the 17/4
Thank you for your kind words. Indeed I intend to wait a while and in the meantime I'll just save a few bucks. This is one seriously expensive lens.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Apr 16, 2010 at 05:05 PM
p.6 #3Trying to avoid the 17/4
Yakim Peled wrote:
Thank you for your kind words. Indeed I intend to wait a while and in the meantime I'll just save a few bucks. This is one seriously expensive lens.
Only to be later told that it's inferior to the 16-35/II.
Thank you for your kind words. Indeed I intend to wait a while and in the meantime I'll just save a few bucks. This is one seriously expensive lens.
Only to be later told that it's inferior to the 16-35/II.
Apr 16, 2010 at 05:22 PM
p.6 #4Trying to avoid the 17/4
I don't mind. It's not relevant. The 16-35/2.8 II is not on my scope as it can't move. It's a a bit boring.....
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Apr 16, 2010 at 05:42 PM
p.6 #6Trying to avoid the 17/4
Yakim - no one in heaven owns a 17mm T/S. Even the Buddhists here simply use the 17-40 and accept its limitations.
Apr 16, 2010 at 06:59 PM
p.6 #7Trying to avoid the 17/4
rdcny wrote:
Yakim - no one in heaven owns a 17mm T/S.
Don't say that! You're destroying my dream.
rdcny wrote:
Even the Buddhists here simply use the 17-40 and accept its limitations.
Yes, but the 17/4 TS has no limitations. Other, of course, than price, weight, size and the inability to take filters.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Yakim - no one in heaven owns a 17mm T/S.
Don't say that! You're destroying my dream.
rdcny wrote:
Even the Buddhists here simply use the 17-40 and accept its limitations.
Yes, but the 17/4 TS has no limitations. Other, of course, than price, weight, size and the inability to take filters.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Apr 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM
p.6 #8Trying to avoid the 17/4
The saga is nearing it's end. I gave up. All I need now is to find someone who wants to go with alt TS. Wish me luck.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
May 20, 2010 at 07:54 AM
p.6 #9Trying to avoid the 17/4
Trying to avoid the 17/4
I am giving in RSN.
EBH
I am giving in RSN.
EBH
May 20, 2010 at 07:12 PM
p.6 #10Trying to avoid the 17/4
EB-1 wrote:
I am giving in RSN.
EBH
Apologies but what does RSN stand for? There are 25 different meanings.
May I hazard a guess? Maybe Real Soon Now?
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Earlier quote
Trying to avoid the 17/4 EBH
Apologies but what does RSN stand for? There are 25 different meanings.
May I hazard a guess? Maybe Real Soon Now?
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
May 21, 2010 at 02:49 AM
p.6 #11Trying to avoid the 17/4
Well, I tried one during a two day trip. Major disappointment. 
Not a single image was sharp (f8, ISO 100 and 1/500 were the most used settings). Nevertheless, as it was my first encounter with it, I'm not ruling out user error, despite the fact that I know my way in TS. I hope I'll have a chance to test it (rather than just use it) later.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Not a single image was sharp (f8, ISO 100 and 1/500 were the most used settings). Nevertheless, as it was my first encounter with it, I'm not ruling out user error, despite the fact that I know my way in TS. I hope I'll have a chance to test it (rather than just use it) later. Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Jun 12, 2010 at 04:49 AM
p.6 #12Trying to avoid the 17/4
How did you use it? handheld? on tripod? Did you use Live View?
Jun 12, 2010 at 05:22 AM
p.6 #13Trying to avoid the 17/4
wow, thats pretty awful, these are manual focus though, right, you could have just not had focus correct?
Jun 12, 2010 at 01:03 PM
p.6 #14Trying to avoid the 17/4
Of course it's possible. I said I'm not ruling out user errors. But then again, I had several tens of pictures with it. All look like that. And I stress, in the plant pic I heard the focus confirmation beep. Also, it was not a private lens. It was loaned to me by Canon Israel. Logic suggests they make sure the lenses they own are "good copies". I'll check this with them and report back.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
And I stress, in the plant pic I heard the focus confirmation beep. Also, it was not a private lens. It was loaned to me by Canon Israel. Logic suggests they make sure the lenses they own are "good copies". I'll check this with them and report back. Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Jun 12, 2010 at 01:17 PM
p.6 #15Trying to avoid the 17/4
When shooting with the 17 for landscapes just stick it on 3m mark on hyper focal and everything will be sharp from almost 0.5 metre to infinity @f11 (and that is with full shift).
Jun 12, 2010 at 05:31 PM
p.6 #16Trying to avoid the 17/4
just rent a few lenses and see what is right for you, a week or two of rental cost should be under $100 including shipping.
Jun 13, 2010 at 02:48 AM
p.6 #17Trying to avoid the 17/4
schristie11 wrote:
just rent a few lenses and see what is right for you, a week or two of rental cost should be under $100 including shipping.
Alas, this lens can not be rented in Israel.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
just rent a few lenses and see what is right for you, a week or two of rental cost should be under $100 including shipping.
Alas, this lens can not be rented in Israel.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Jun 13, 2010 at 03:18 AM
p.6 #18Trying to avoid the 17/4
John Mills wrote:
When shooting with the 17 for landscapes just stick it on 3m mark on hyper focal and everything will be sharp from almost 0.5 metre to infinity @f11 (and that is with full shift).
IIRC, the lens was tilted but not shifted.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
When shooting with the 17 for landscapes just stick it on 3m mark on hyper focal and everything will be sharp from almost 0.5 metre to infinity @f11 (and that is with full shift).
IIRC, the lens was tilted but not shifted.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Jun 13, 2010 at 03:20 AM
p.6 #19Trying to avoid the 17/4
Of course it's possible. I said I'm not ruling out user errors. But then again, I had several tens of pictures with it. All look like that. And I stress, in the plant pic I heard the focus confirmation beep. Also, it was not a private lens. It was loaned to me by Canon Israel. Logic suggests they make sure the lenses they own are "good copies". I'll check this with them and report back.
I would not assume this! I used a 100-400 lens from Canon on a workshop last year and every photo was less then sharp. Never seen this in any other lens. I've shot with other 100-400 that were great.
JT
I would not assume this! I used a 100-400 lens from Canon on a workshop last year and every photo was less then sharp. Never seen this in any other lens. I've shot with other 100-400 that were great.
JT
Jun 13, 2010 at 08:09 AM
p.6 #20Trying to avoid the 17/4
I figured the sequel is entitled to its own thread.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Jun 18, 2010 at 03:21 PM