In a way, crop sensor actually has more to gain with the shift.
Note how cropped sensors have more to gain from shifting than full frame sensors. For panoramas, one can achieve dramatically wide aspect ratios of 2:1 and 3:1 for full frame and cropped sensors, respectively, with substantially more resolution.
Devil's advocate, cast yourself from my eyes! You almost got me but no. More resolution is not something that bothers me. Write no more and be gone for good, before you think of something which can be really tempting......
Yakim Peled wrote:
At last. Voice of reason. As I don't have FF and don't plan to have it anytime soon, this lens will be worthless for me.
That is actually a good point! I have a similar nemesis, the Sigma 300-800. I've saved every cent I made through photography for it, and I could indeed just go and buy it today. Like, right now. But somehow I'm afraid that if I buy it, nothing will be left that I can agonize about. And save for. And do yet more research on. I found that at least I need one or two dream lenses in my future. Maybe that can be the 17/4 for you, for a while?
As a voice of temptation, I really enjoy the extra dimensions of creativity that the 17 TS-E provides, especially on a high resolution full frame. You start off with a really great wide angle lens, with low geometric distortion. You then add tilt and shift that allow new ways to see and record subjects. And then you have a nice "old style" manual focus ring that has lots of turn angle, and even a depth of field scale. So I really think you should consider both a 5D mkII and a 17 TS-E, to fully appreciate the freedom it will give you.
And besides actually using the gear, there is that other side of things that I know drives me, which is the incredible technology in the equipment, and a very nice execution of everything in the actual look and feel and user interface. I admit to being a gear head as well as enjoying making images.
And did you know that if you are going to eventually give in and get some hardware, it is lots more fun to get it sooner, and get that much more enjoyment and productivity from it, than it is to wait.
Roland W wrote:
As a voice of temptation, I really enjoy the extra dimensions of creativity that the 17 TS-E provides, especially on a high resolution full frame. You start off with a really great wide angle lens, with low geometric distortion. You then add tilt and shift that allow new ways to see and record subjects. And then you have a nice "old style" manual focus ring that has lots of turn angle, and even a depth of field scale. So I really think you should consider both a 5D mkII and a 17 TS-E, to fully appreciate the freedom it will give you.
And besides actually using the gear, there is that other side of things that I know drives me, which is the incredible technology in the equipment, and a very nice execution of everything in the actual look and feel and user interface. I admit to being a gear head as well as enjoying making images.
And did you know that if you are going to eventually give in and get some hardware, it is lots more fun to get it sooner, and get that much more enjoyment and productivity from it, than it is to wait....Show more →
Undoubtedly, 5D2 + 17TS is the best way to go but not surprisingly, it's also the most expensive.
With that lens and your talent, I'm sure you could go out the first day of the lens' arrival, snap one shot, sell it in a gallery for exactly $2499, and every photo afterward would be just for you.
With that lens and your talent, I'm sure you could go out the first day of the lens' arrival, snap one shot, sell it in a gallery for exactly $2499, and every photo afterward would be just for you.
I'm starting to blush from all these compliments but truth must be told that I haven't sold even a single picture. I don't even know how to do it.
I have the TS-E 17 for a while now and absolutely love it. It opens up so many possibilities for architecture photography. Especially living in a city like Hong Kong. Next to the tilt function which I mainly use now its draw is the sharpness. Every time I use my 17-40 I have to double check whether I actually misfocussed. The difference is that big.
Yakim,
I'm not a big wide angle shooter myself but rented a 24 TSE II for my trip to Cambodia. It was on my 5D most of the time. I was "seduced" by how you're able to play around with depth of field and the ability to correct distortion.
I'm still on the fence if I need to purchase such a specialty lens. Not sure if you have the option to rent to get the "lust" out of the way.
Maybe that can be the 17/4 for you, for a while?
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