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Archive 2009Canon 7D
p.41 #1Canon 7D
skibum5 wrote:
pick 1:
1. 18MP quality at low ISO and 8MP quality at high ISO
2. 8MP at all ISO
3. 12mp at all ISO.
pick 1:
1. 18MP quality at low ISO and 8MP quality at high ISO
2. 8MP at all ISO
3. 12mp at all ISO.
Aug 28, 2009 at 02:44 PM
p.41 #2Canon 7D
George.ML wrote:
1. 18MP quality at low ISO and 8MP quality at high ISO
2. 8MP at all ISO3. 12mp at all ISO.
if it could deliver a quality 12MP at high ISO then it could do like 24MP at low ISO
so that is reall just a bumped up #1
skibum5 wrote
pick 1:1. 18MP quality at low ISO and 8MP quality at high ISO
2. 8MP at all ISO
if it could deliver a quality 12MP at high ISO then it could do like 24MP at low ISO
so that is reall just a bumped up #1
Aug 28, 2009 at 02:46 PM
p.41 #3Canon 7D
A guy who works in Japan said that he had an opportunity to touch the camera because his company was chosen to test the camera.
He did not offer many details, but....
It's 1.6 crop with about 17MP.
The LCD has gotten really large...Also, he said the power switch had been moved to the left side of the camera where the mode dial is.
He says the design reminded him of 10D...
I'm just translating a post on the website where you guys found the picture of the 7D.
He did not offer many details, but....
It's 1.6 crop with about 17MP.
The LCD has gotten really large...Also, he said the power switch had been moved to the left side of the camera where the mode dial is.
He says the design reminded him of 10D...
I'm just translating a post on the website where you guys found the picture of the 7D.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:03 PM
p.41 #4Canon 7D
18megapixels @ 1.6 crop = better have some incredible glass. That's like 18*2.56 = 46megapixel full frame.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:07 PM
p.41 #5Canon 7D
Canon has always disappointed with every release, but in the end we continue to buy Canon because the camera overall has some appealing features. This is what everyone saw with the 5DMkII. Today the 5DMkII is a hot seller.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:08 PM
p.41 #6Canon 7D
mirageII wrote:
Yeah a 1.3x cropper @ 18Mpxls that allows the use of EF-s lenses in a DX mode equivalent at 10-12Mpxls.
I'll take two
I so wish you are right.
Yeah a 1.3x cropper @ 18Mpxls that allows the use of EF-s lenses in a DX mode equivalent at 10-12Mpxls.
I'll take two
I so wish you are right.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:09 PM
p.41 #7Canon 7D
Glen_C wrote:
Canon is so darn reactionary & stagnant it's PATHETIC.
One must wonder how this pathetic company ever came to be so big. Silly customers I guess.....
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Canon is so darn reactionary & stagnant it's PATHETIC.
One must wonder how this pathetic company ever came to be so big. Silly customers I guess.....
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:15 PM
p.41 #8Canon 7D
I can not agree with you more!!!
rsg_1 wrote:
Canon has always disappointed with every release, but in the end we continue to buy Canon because the camera overall has some appealing features. This is what everyone saw with the 5DMkII. Today the 5DMkII is a hot seller.
rsg_1 wrote:
Canon has always disappointed with every release, but in the end we continue to buy Canon because the camera overall has some appealing features. This is what everyone saw with the 5DMkII. Today the 5DMkII is a hot seller.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:19 PM
p.41 #9Canon 7D
Sibilant wrote:
Please, please... let it AF at f/8 (not likely, I know)
With the added high ISO performance of, lets say, the 1DIII I'd be all over this body for wildlife and macro--also not very likely
Please, please... let it AF at f/8 (not likely, I know)
With the added high ISO performance of, lets say, the 1DIII I'd be all over this body for wildlife and macro--also not very likely
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21 PM
p.41 #10Canon 7D
Anyone seen this poster yet? It's on Canon Rumors and Engadget.
It doesn't look like it says what percentage crop it is.
i) 18Mp
ii) 100% viewfinder
iii) 8 frames / second
iv) Dual Digic IV
v) 19 pt AF
vi) 3 inch LCD
vii) ISO 6400
viii)Video
ix) “Real Time Display” which probably is LiveView
x) What looks like “artificial horizon tilt” or Canon's new IS system.
xi) I think the top right is 6.3 or 63 zone metering system?
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It doesn't look like it says what percentage crop it is.
i) 18Mp
ii) 100% viewfinder
iii) 8 frames / second
iv) Dual Digic IV
v) 19 pt AF
vi) 3 inch LCD
vii) ISO 6400
viii)Video
ix) “Real Time Display” which probably is LiveView
x) What looks like “artificial horizon tilt” or Canon's new IS system.
xi) I think the top right is 6.3 or 63 zone metering system?
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Aug 28, 2009 at 03:25 PM
p.41 #11Canon 7D
Top row, left corner.
1800 万 pixels. 万 in Chinese (pronounced won) means 10,000. So, 1800 x 10,000 pixels = 18 megapixels.
1800 万 pixels. 万 in Chinese (pronounced won) means 10,000. So, 1800 x 10,000 pixels = 18 megapixels.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:28 PM
p.41 #12Canon 7D
"I mean the 7D may be cool but canon seems now to do nothing but react..."
seriously, and let's hope they react to nikon's new bread-and-butter zooms (24-70, etc).
seriously, and let's hope they react to nikon's new bread-and-butter zooms (24-70, etc).
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:31 PM
p.41 #13Canon 7D
So not quite 3D yet.... but finally!!!
Paul Yi wrote:
A guy who works in Japan said that he had an opportunity to touch the camera because his company was chosen to test the camera.
He did not offer many details, but....
It's 1.6 crop with about 17MP.
The LCD has gotten really large...Also, he said the power switch had been moved to the left side of the camera where the mode dial is.
He says the design reminded him of 10D...
I'm just translating a post on the website where you guys found the picture of the 7D.
Paul Yi wrote:
A guy who works in Japan said that he had an opportunity to touch the camera because his company was chosen to test the camera.
He did not offer many details, but....
It's 1.6 crop with about 17MP.
The LCD has gotten really large...Also, he said the power switch had been moved to the left side of the camera where the mode dial is.
He says the design reminded him of 10D...
I'm just translating a post on the website where you guys found the picture of the 7D.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:34 PM
p.41 #14Canon 7D
As the megapixels continue to increase on the crop cameras, accurate focus becomes more of a limiting factor than lens quality IMO. Live-view focus has shown that you can get decent quality shots with TC's on non-super tele lenses, if you achieve critical focus.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:40 PM
p.41 #15Canon 7D
Yakim Peled wrote:
One must wonder how this pathetic company ever came to be so big. Silly customers I guess.....
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Same way GM got so big...silly customers until options were presented from competing car manufactures.
Glen_C wrote
Canon is so darn reactionary & stagnant it's PATHETIC.Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Same way GM got so big...silly customers until options were presented from competing car manufactures.
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:43 PM
p.41 #16Canon 7D
Yes hopefully the AF is accurate- but the lens quality is equally important. I see this body working only to its full potential with sharp L primes and the super teles- in addition.... the camera is going to be diffraction limited at very large apertures...
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:44 PM
p.41 #17Canon 7D
kappaknight wrote:
Anyone seen this poster yet? It's on Canon Rumors and Engadget.
http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mobile01-a5dec84018ed024d52c8d6a1a3361c93.jpg
It doesn't look like it says what percentage crop it is.
i) 18Mp
ii) 100% viewfinder
iii) 8 frames / second
iv) Dual Digic IV
v) 19 pt AF
vi) 3 inch LCD
vii) ISO 6400
viii)Video
ix) “Real Time Display” which probably is LiveView
x) What looks like “artificial horizon tilt” or Canon's new IS system.
xi) I think the top right is 6.3 or 63 zone metering system?
EEEEKKK!!! THe suspense continues!!! What crop??
.......I have a feeling it will be 1.6x unfortunately. Don't know why.....it's just a gut instinct.....also could be due to the Chinese leak from canonrumors who pretty much got all those specs on target - and he said 1.6x crop. But I'm hoping for APS-H at least!!! Cramming 3 more mpx on a APS-C sensor could mean noisy images yeah?
Anyone seen this poster yet? It's on Canon Rumors and Engadget.
http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mobile01-a5dec84018ed024d52c8d6a1a3361c93.jpg
It doesn't look like it says what percentage crop it is.
i) 18Mp
ii) 100% viewfinder
iii) 8 frames / second
iv) Dual Digic IV
v) 19 pt AF
vi) 3 inch LCD
vii) ISO 6400
viii)Video
ix) “Real Time Display” which probably is LiveView
x) What looks like “artificial horizon tilt” or Canon's new IS system.
xi) I think the top right is 6.3 or 63 zone metering system?
EEEEKKK!!! THe suspense continues!!! What crop??
.......I have a feeling it will be 1.6x unfortunately. Don't know why.....it's just a gut instinct.....also could be due to the Chinese leak from canonrumors who pretty much got all those specs on target - and he said 1.6x crop. But I'm hoping for APS-H at least!!! Cramming 3 more mpx on a APS-C sensor could mean noisy images yeah?
Aug 28, 2009 at 03:54 PM
p.41 #18Canon 7D
.....somebody pointed out the (new) 15-85 efs lens on the poster - so most definitely APS-C
Aug 28, 2009 at 04:01 PM
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p.41 #19Canon 7D
thw2 wrote:
I'll take twoI so wish you are right.
Poster says "100% viewfinder" which pretty much rules out 1.3x crop with EF-s, a 1.3x crop mirror big enough to cover 100% would almost definitely foul the back edge of an EF-s lens.
mirageII wrote
Yeah a 1.3x cropper @ 18Mpxls that allows the use of EF-s lenses in a DX mode equivalent at 10-12Mpxls.I'll take two
Poster says "100% viewfinder" which pretty much rules out 1.3x crop with EF-s, a 1.3x crop mirror big enough to cover 100% would almost definitely foul the back edge of an EF-s lens.
Aug 28, 2009 at 04:17 PM
p.41 #20Canon 7D
skibum5 wrote:
no, the xxD have much faster mirror/shutter/many more fps
the 5 series are rebels with FF sensors.......
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Are you serious? Wow, my 5D must have been a waste. Shoulda bought a few XTi's and called it a day.i didn't say it was a waste or that it WAS an XTi I said it was a Rebel WITH A FF SENSOR.
and it is body performance-wise in many respects.
3fps, longgg mirror blackout, long (compared to top DSLR) shutter delay
granted the AF was better and the bod specs are mostly a TAD above rebels, but below, to far below xxD or 1 series.
you can't seriously claim the 5D was a high spec body can you? other than in terms of the sensor
So how is it a rebel? The body is magnesium alloy, and a little more full feeling than the XXd bodies. Rebels are plastic. It has better AF than a rebel. Long mirror blackout I believe is as a result of design of the FF camera. I have no experience with the 1ds1 and 1ds2, but I'm thinking that they are a bit slower than a newer camera now also.
So I'll put the ball in your court, because I don't really have to claim anything about the 5D. There's a reason, even now, that IQ alone puts it up there with the top bodies...Yeah, the handling may be somewhere lesser than XXD, but it's most certainly more than XXXD.
To put it bluntly, I think the jump in difference from rebel to 5D, is as great as the difference in jump from XXD to 1 series, IQ not the subject here though, just handling.
RobertLynn wrote
skibum5 wrote
EOS20 wrote
Isn't the 5 series already just a XXD series camera with a full framed sensor and no pop up flash?the 5 series are rebels with FF sensors....
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Are you serious? Wow, my 5D must have been a waste. Shoulda bought a few XTi's and called it a day.
and it is body performance-wise in many respects.
3fps, longgg mirror blackout, long (compared to top DSLR) shutter delay
granted the AF was better and the bod specs are mostly a TAD above rebels, but below, to far below xxD or 1 series.
you can't seriously claim the 5D was a high spec body can you? other than in terms of the sensor
So how is it a rebel? The body is magnesium alloy, and a little more full feeling than the XXd bodies. Rebels are plastic. It has better AF than a rebel. Long mirror blackout I believe is as a result of design of the FF camera. I have no experience with the 1ds1 and 1ds2, but I'm thinking that they are a bit slower than a newer camera now also.
So I'll put the ball in your court, because I don't really have to claim anything about the 5D. There's a reason, even now, that IQ alone puts it up there with the top bodies...Yeah, the handling may be somewhere lesser than XXD, but it's most certainly more than XXXD.
To put it bluntly, I think the jump in difference from rebel to 5D, is as great as the difference in jump from XXD to 1 series, IQ not the subject here though, just handling.
Aug 28, 2009 at 04:18 PM