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p.28 #1 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Sprout Crumble wrote:
The files from the 30D are fantastic and while the 5D is superior, its hardly a whole other level. Its also 2.5 times the price. I'd suggest very few would consider the quality premium in line with the financial one.

I'd also suggest that in the world of Mr.Average camera purchaser and their 10x8" prints, that theres absolutely no discernible difference at all.


Sometimes I wonder which you dislike more - the 5D or Mr. "average" camera purchaser.

I understand that you don't think that the 5D's performance justifies its price, and that's fine. Your money (minus the taxes that government steals first) is yours to spend in the manner that you see fit. You don't see fit to spend it on the 5D at its present price, and that's fine. What I find perplexing, though, is that you continue to degrade the camera and its users at every opportunity.



Aug 22, 2006 at 08:43 PM
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p.28 #2 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Sprout Crumble wrote:
I'd suggest very few would consider the quality premium in line with the financial one.


I find clients tend to prefer the quality premium.

And man, we're only talking about $1500 or so. Yeah, that's a fair bit of change, but in a world where a lot of photographers seem to believe that plopping down $2000 for a 85mm f1.2 II when another 85mm is available at 1/4 the cost; or paying $9000 for a 600mm prime when you can slap a 2x on a 100-400 (and get more reach) for 1/5 the cost- all b/c of the quality premium - is it really that outrageous to pay $1500 more for a top-end quality body? My counter suggestion is that it's not.

Another way to look at the 5D is that you get files from it that are nearly as good as the 1dsII (some claim even cleaner) for less than 1/3 of the price of that body.

What I think is that quite often photographers who want to be in the dSLR world enter it by spending most of their budget on a body, and then don't have enough room left to get good glass. I don't blame anyone for that - the high end glass is almost prohibitive - but then it's hard to really compare sensor quality when the glass is the limiting factor.

But that said, I think the 30D is a great camera, so either way, you're in good shape.



Aug 22, 2006 at 09:44 PM
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p.28 #3 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I would put money on the fact that there will be a new 1Ds announced soon, the XT and a few lenses are a given.

Im trying to contact my friend's buddy directly to get all the details.



Aug 22, 2006 at 09:57 PM
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p.28 #4 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


RGS65 wrote:
Maddening, but the dedicated thread was a good idea. Thanks Mods.




No problem, I think it benefitted us all...



Aug 22, 2006 at 09:59 PM
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p.28 #5 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I'm a cabinetmaker. I tell clients, "to get another 10% in quality and features will take 50% more dollars. What level are you comfortable at?"

You want a 5D, buy a 5D. You don't want, who cares? Suit yourself. But don't yammer on endlessly about your choice.



Aug 22, 2006 at 10:28 PM
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p.28 #6 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Sorry guys, my friend obviously was totally unware of the huge ammount of speculation and hundred or thousands of posts all over the net on the subject. Like I said he isnt a photo gear head.


Aug 22, 2006 at 10:38 PM
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p.28 #7 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


DrPablo wrote:
It's just been released -- it's called the Leica M8 digital rangefinder, and it will only cost you $5000.


Is this a joke? I mean it's small, but so is a PPK. Doesn't make it a toy.

...anyways, it's APS-H.



Aug 22, 2006 at 11:02 PM
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p.28 #8 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Seems like this time, only the 400D would be released together with two new L lens.

The following is a link to the Chinese Canon Web Sites:

http://www.canon.com.cn/front/canon/news/backend_news_detail.jsp?id=2319




Aug 22, 2006 at 11:12 PM
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p.28 #9 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Which lenses?


Aug 22, 2006 at 11:25 PM
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p.28 #10 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Brent Ward wrote:
Which lenses?


70-200f4 L IS
50f1.2 L



Aug 22, 2006 at 11:27 PM
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p.28 #11 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


finally come with a dust removing system...
how about spot metering?



Aug 22, 2006 at 11:40 PM
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p.28 #12 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


cljtam wrote:
Seems like this time, only the 400D would be released together with two new L lens.

The following is a link to the Chinese Canon Web Sites:

http://www.canon.com.cn/front/canon/news/backend_news_detail.jsp?id=2319



Maybe it's already the 24th in China... seems legit, which, if true, means the 50mm f/1.2 L is no longer a fantasy but a reality, it appears our chanting worked. Hoorah for Canon to finally bring such a thing of beauty to us low light and portrait shooters!

And with the 400D at 10MP, looks like Canon will be on the upgrade path for the rest of it's bodies...



Aug 22, 2006 at 11:59 PM
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p.28 #13 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


It's 23rd 1:15pm here


Aug 23, 2006 at 12:08 AM
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p.28 #14 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


That chinese press release is dated the 22nd


Aug 23, 2006 at 12:09 AM
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p.28 #15 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Good things come to those who wait (and practice yogic flying.). One down (50 f/1.2), two more to go (14LII and 200f/2.0 IS).....

When confirmed, it will behoove us to say "bravo Canon" !

BTW, anyone interested in trading their EF 50mm f/1.0L USM in a mint condition for my 35L (also mint) ? (> chuckles and winks<)



Aug 23, 2006 at 12:14 AM
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p.28 #16 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Canon-Chuna would be fired untill the last man...

But there still will be another 1.5 billions of candidates to replace them



Aug 23, 2006 at 12:15 AM
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p.28 #17 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


eddiefmc wrote:
It's 23rd 1:15pm here


I was of course just fooling. I'd be willing to bet this was a controlled leak, I remember two years ago at the last Photokina, Canon Europe had done the same thing, posted a release a day or two in advance and then took it off. I think it's Canon's way of teasing us and causing the rumors to spread like wildfire...

Eddiefmc - you live in a beautiful country, would love to visit someday!



Aug 23, 2006 at 12:37 AM
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p.28 #18 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


The leak seems to be gone. Did anyone save a picture?


Aug 23, 2006 at 12:47 AM
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p.28 #19 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


They must have just removed it, because I saw it less than ten minutes ago.


Aug 23, 2006 at 12:49 AM
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p.28 #20 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


The link is dead as of 11PM PST. Gaaaah! How come we can get satellite images and read the label on a Katucha rocket as it's being launched and we hear about what the CIA and MI6 is up to, but Canon seems to be an informational black hole?


Aug 23, 2006 at 01:11 AM
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