"Good to see regular visits to this page from Canon corporate IP addresses around the world (shows up in our web logs :-) Do feel free to send us an 'official' leak or two when you want ;-) Hope you find it amusing..."
Where is that quote from?
Thanks
DaveMart
Almost a bit off topic here as all we seem to be covering are the specs of cameras possibly arriving in the near future.
Question for input though: if Canon does deliver a 22MP 1 series next month do you think it will be an improvement on the sensor of the 1Ds MkII? Many have said while the 1DsMkII produces bigger images that the 5D produces cleaner images.
mholdef wrote:
Question for input though: if Canon does deliver a 22MP 1 series next month do you think it will be an improvement on the sensor of the 1Ds MkII? Many have said while the 1DsMkII produces bigger images that the 5D produces cleaner images.
The 5D pixels are a bit larger than the 1Ds mkII, which would account for better S/N, but the camera is also a few years more recent. Its my experience that with the newer generation cams (and processors) come an incremental improvement in S/N due to better processing algorithms and noise mitigation electronics. For example the 5D has a bit better S/N than the 1D MKII, which has the same size pixels. The new 1D should have DIGIC III (at least its about time for it). Another issue is the degree of filtering done by the processor at high ISO settings. In the Nikon D2x this is rather extreme at ISO 1600, as S/N is kept moderate at the loss of detail. Canon has a different philosophy on their 1D level cameras, leaving the noise but preserving the detail. I would guess their marketing strategy is tha pro level shooters know how best to reduce noise with aftermarket software, but don't want to filter out details in a wholesale fashion. With prosumer level dSLRs they are probably more willing to filter out a small amont of detail to preserve good (very good if you compare Phil Askys charts) S/N at ISO 1600 and 3200.
Mike K
Mike K wrote:
The 5D pixels are a bit larger than the 1Ds mkII, which would account for better S/N, but the camera is also a few years more recent. Its my experience that with the newer generation cams (and processors) come an incremental improvement in S/N due to better processing algorithms and noise mitigation electronics. For example the 5D has a bit better S/N than the 1D MKII, which has the same size pixels. The new 1D should have DIGIC III (at least its about time for it). Another issue is the degree of filtering done by the processor at high ISO settings. In the Nikon D2x this is rather extreme at ISO 1600, as S/N is kept moderate at the loss of detail. Canon has a different philosophy on their 1D level cameras, leaving the noise but preserving the detail. I would guess their marketing strategy is tha pro level shooters know how best to reduce noise with aftermarket software, but don't want to filter out details in a wholesale fashion. With prosumer level dSLRs they are probably more willing to filter out a small amont of detail to preserve good (very good if you compare Phil Askys charts) S/N at ISO 1600 and 3200.
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So chances are it would be a significant upgrade in image quality if I were to move from the 5D to an eventual 1DsMKIII...
mholdef wrote:
Almost a bit off topic here as all we seem to be covering are the specs of cameras possibly arriving in the near future.
Question for input though: if Canon does deliver a 22MP 1 series next month do you think it will be an improvement on the sensor of the 1Ds MkII? Many have said while the 1DsMkII produces bigger images that the 5D produces cleaner images.
Thoughts?
The 5D is "look what we can do now inexpensively with FF". The 1DsII replacement will be "look at our state of the art DSLR". I would guess, on a per pixel basis, the 1DsIII will be at least as good as the 5D. So in use with more pixels the 1DsIII will have less noise.
One thing that will change with the new high end camera is less space between pixels.
The 22 MP/16 bit discourse (no, that's different from "intercourse") seems to have run outta steam.....
Be that as it may, I offer a reward for a confirmation of the EF 50mm f/1.2L USM introduction this fall.
If you happen to be the first one to send me a PM about it, and if the info is legit, I shall mail you a free stellar copy of the Sandisk 256Mb CF memory card, hardly used, shows very little wear.
a guy I know who is employed in a canadian camera store told me the following...
"Seems there was a bit of a slip up of sorts at work today, and I thought I'd share. We get daily automated e-mails from our purchasing department in regards to price changes and new products. The one that came in this morning featured 4 new SKUs. The title was only "New camera model - silver", and one SKU for black. As well, there were lens kits for both colors as well.
What leads me to believe there's an imminent announcement from Canon is because the SKUs associated to these were in the Canon category (it's grouped by distributor). Pricing was listed at $949 for the body (Canadian dollars), and $1099 for the lens kit (I'm guessing 18-55...). This places it at $100 more than the current price for the Rebel XT."
Canon has a different philosophy on their 1D level cameras, leaving the noise but preserving the detail. I would guess their marketing strategy is tha pro level shooters know how best to reduce noise with aftermarket software, but don't want to filter out details in a wholesale fashion. With prosumer level dSLRs they are probably more willing to filter out a small amont of detail to preserve good (very good if you compare Phil Askys charts) S/N at ISO 1600 and 3200.
Mike K
In fact, that's correct. In Chuck Westfall's pamphlet on getting the most out of the 1D cameras, he states up front that Canon's decisions on 1D capabilities and settings are based on the expectation that professionals will be doing (or have done) an advanced level of post-processing.
Canon have not been too keen on Lithium batteries for their pro cameras (can't think why - they should buy Sony :-) )
So they have been using the relatively bulky NiMiH batteries.
My guess is that they have been leaving a re-design until they can decisively reduce the wieght and size of the batteries.
The joke is wearing a bit thin though.
Regards,
DaveMart
buying lithium ion from Sony worked really well for Dell. Lets hope Canon avoids that path of batteries!
Pardon me if this has been asked and answered already, but 42 pages is a daunting read...
If Canon announces a 1Ds Mk III at Photokina, will 1D (mark I) prices go down much at all? Or should I just start looking for a used 1Dinosaur right now?
And presumably that would also hold for the 5D (stable prices) unless they offer something considered to be a replacement and/or lower the price as Keith Cooper reported might occur (northlight-images.co.uk)
I gave up, sadly, on page 23 of this post. I thought there was a decent rumour of a 40/1.2L...that's what I really want...but I've seen no mention of it except once-twice a few weeks ago. Oh well, looks like I'll be back to getting the 35/1.4L to shoot as partner with my 85/1.2...I'd much rather have a 40/1.2L.
Reasoning? I use the 85 for everything, except when I don't have room. A 35mm lens obviously fits that bill, but occasionally does the odd perspective number on my subjects because there's no compression. A 50 is too long (won't help much in a small room/no space)...a 40 might therefore be perfect...especially if it's modeled for people, i.e, 8 rounded blades...and is SHARP WFO.
40mm makes more sense than 50mm for the 1.6 guys too, as a standard lens...but then 35mm makes even more sense for them...
shawngibson wrote:
I gave up, sadly, on page 23 of this post. I thought there was a decent rumour of a 40/1.2L...that's what I really want...but I've seen no mention of it except once-twice a few weeks ago. Oh well, looks like I'll be back to getting the 35/1.4L to shoot as partner with my 85/1.2...I'd much rather have a 40/1.2L.
Reasoning? I use the 85 for everything, except when I don't have room. A 35mm lens obviously fits that bill, but occasionally does the odd perspective number on my subjects because there's no compression. A 50 is too long (won't help much in a small room/no space)...a 40 might therefore be perfect...especially if it's modeled for people, i.e, 8 rounded blades...and is SHARP WFO.
40mm makes more sense than 50mm for the 1.6 guys too, as a standard lens...but then 35mm makes even more sense for them......Show more →
get the 45 T/S ... supposedly very sharp (and useful for interiors when you have little room)
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