How do you find the image quality of the Hartblei 80SR. I'm considering it as a cheap alternative to the 90. Will mainly use it for macro stuff. Might want to use it wide open for creative DOF effects. Would appreciate your comments, or anyone elses...
VaRiX wrote:
Thanks Wade... so we've confirmed that on a 1.3x crop sensor, there's no vignetting with the 90.
Anyone want to do similar tests on the 1D with the 24 and 45?
How about full frame sensors?
Wow, I really should start a Canon Wiki. Hmm... I could host it on my server if you guys would make use of it. PM me if you think it's a good idea.
I have the 24tse and a MkIIn, do you want to see just a straight shot to check for vignetting? or how much tilt and how much shift, let me know and I will try to do some tests!
Charles, I'm interested in seeing full shift both directions to see if there's any vignetting. Maybe full tilt and full shift would show the absolute worst case scenario, but for apples to apples comparisons the full shift is what's needed.
Kevin, I found the quality to be very good, actually! Here's a shot with it fairly wide open with the plane of focus rotated to the top of the three iris petals:
Here's another with the plane of focus rotated and aligned to the gerbera daisy's face:
Oh.. I just installed MediaWiki on my webserver so we have a central location to share all of our knowledge. This TS-E information will just be one small facet of the site. I'll post information here if there's interest.
VaRiX wrote:
...and will be getting the 5D and 24mm TS-E within a week or so.
...The plan is to really step up my interior photography work, but I wonder if I'd be better served by the 45mm and shifting.
I just purchased a used 24 TS-E to use in combination with my 5D for both exterior and interior work (my wife just became a partner/principle in a small architecture firm here and I've been tapped up to be their in house photog). FWIW, a buddy photog here who owns the 45 TS-E (and has done a fair amount of interior shoots) strongly suggested I buy the 24 for architecture work. We'll see! My buddy is also considering buying a 24 for wider landscapes and tight in work. I hope to get together with him in August to do a little 24 vs 45 testing on my 5D and his 1Ds2 and 30D. I'll post the results with samples.
Also, while I'm sure I'll give the 24 TS-E an architecural workout and also try it for landscapes, both stitched and non-stitched, I know in my photog bones I'll end up with a 45 TS-E for 90 TS-E for landscapes. I much prefer landscapes made with longer lenses.
Cheers and thanks for posting the very nice Hartblei 80 images!
CPWarner wrote:
How many of you find that if you shift over 7mm that you begin getting significant vignetting? I am curious as this has seriously limited my ability to do flat stitching (ie. the Outbackphoto method) in the way I intended to use the lens. I When I do a full 11mm shift with my 24mm TS-E, I am not seeing the optical performance in my images that I have seen in some of the images here. So are people shifting 7mm or 11mm? I am using a 1Dmk2, so those with 1.6x multipliers may not see this as badly. Just curious...
In my wanders on the net, I've read that after 8mm of shift both vignetting and light drop off start becoming problems with the 24. I'm awaiting the arrival of a new used 24 to use with my 5D for architecture work and will certainly put the lesn thru its paces and report back (both for architecture work and landscapes). But as I mentioned in a thread above, I'm sure I'll end up buying a 45 or 90 for landscapes since I prefer "longer lens" landscapes (and want to avoid vignetting and light drop off). Frankly, I hadn' even planned on buying a 24 until the architecture work came up. I've got some good TS links that talk about this stuff but I'm traveling and they're not handy. I'll try and dig them up and post them. In the meantime, here's a good place to start:
VaRiX wrote:
Charles, I'm interested in seeing full shift both directions to see if there's any vignetting. Maybe full tilt and full shift would show the absolute worst case scenario, but for apples to apples comparisons the full shift is what's needed.
Kevin, I found the quality to be very good, actually! Here's a shot with it fairly wide open with the plane of focus rotated to the top of the three iris petals:
Here's another with the plane of focus rotated and aligned to the gerbera daisy's face:
Oh.. I just installed MediaWiki on my webserver so we have a central location to share all of our knowledge. This TS-E information will just be one small facet of the site. I'll post information here if there's interest....Show more →
varix-> those images are very nice. Which TSE were those taken with? How big are those flowers in real life? I dont think my 90 is that sharp at all.
Zane Yau wrote:
sorry for my ignorance... what's the purpose of a TS lens, apart from correcting perspective when you shoot architecture? I can see some really nice photos here, those lensbaby-liked photos really got me thinking too...
Those are really impressive results. I think you are doing better with that lens that I can with my 90mm. Something for me to think about. I am sure your technique is also outstanding. good work.
Those are really impressive results. I think you are doing better with that lens that I can with my 90mm. Something for me to think about. I am sure your technique is also outstanding. good work.
Thanks Statik... I need to do more flower shots. These images were taken one rainy day while the wife and kids were out of town and I was bored. I set up a 300w/s strobe shooting through an umbrella and then had black and white foamcore as light modifiers.
For everyone:
I've created my Canon Wiki! It will hold anything and everything technical about Canon cameras, lenses (including other brands), accessories, operation, etc. I haven't had time to populate many pages yet, but plan on compiling the information learned here in the wiki as well.
Any and all of you are welcome to add new pages and edit existing ones as you see fit. I'm using the very same software that drives the WikiPedia, so it should be very feature-packed, yet easy to use.
Anden, what did you do to get that much vignetting in the corners?
Did the 90 TS-E do that at f2.8 all on it's own?
I would expect falloff in one or two corners if you combined shift and tilt, but it looks equal in all four... maybe you added this during the RAW conversion?
VaRiX wrote:
Anden, what did you do to get that much vignetting in the corners?
Did the 90 TS-E do that at f2.8 all on it's own?
I would expect falloff in one or two corners if you combined shift and tilt, but it looks equal in all four... maybe you added this during the RAW conversion?
I maxed out the vignetting in PS raw conversion. I've seen vignetting maxing tilt and shift but I have not seen anything just by tilting.
