The only NEW information from our YT friend is the rear screen blue cast, which multiple people (here and Reddit) have said that a sensor calibration "fixes".
Thanks for the link, that was very useful and hope many will see it before buying it. I now understand that he was right...HDR doesn't give you a RAW file as the final output. Instead, the camera takes the RAW sensor data, processes it in-camera, and produces either a JPEG or HEIF. That's why you can't select RAW-only when HDR is turned on. It probably doesn't work in Manual mode because Hasselblad’s HDR feature is tied to the camera's automated exposure system.
For the new continuous AF using lidar, only these lenses are supported: XCD 2.8–4/35–100E, XCD 2.5/38V, XCD 2.5/55V, XCD 2.5/25V, XCD 2.5/90V, XCD 4/28P, and XCD 3.4/75P.
All of this has been really helpful for me since I was casually considering this camera down the road.
p.11 #2 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
RoamingScott wrote:
Literally no one is talking about his photos. My meta point is that linking to uninformed takes with no context only feeds the algorithm, showing that person to more passerbys.
p.11 #3 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
Fred Miranda wrote:
It probably doesn't work in Manual mode because Hasselblad’s HDR feature is tied to the camera’s automated exposure system.
This, specifically it is directly tied to both HNCS and the addition of an algorithmically derived multi-zone metering pattern that is only usable in A, S or P mode along with JPEG / HEIF employing HDR.
I find in using it, I am ok with not having it in M mode because it does a truly great job and can be biased +/- using exposure compensation.
p.11 #4 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
Ne314satel wrote:
Surprised by the negative reaction to the video. The guy bought the camera, not received it as a gift. We are all imperfect in this world, if anyone is perfect, raise your hand. But his opinion certainly matters among the applause of many bloggers. You need to be kinder, guys. Just imagine your photos on the X2D or Mark II being criticized so fiercely. Nothing is perfect.
It is a bit like someone buying a Leica M11 and complaining that it doesn't have autofocus. Except for the cast (which was fixed), all limitations are known, well-documented, and discussed.
p.11 #5 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
Fred Miranda wrote:
Thanks for the link, that was very useful and hope many will see it before buying it. I now understand that he was right...HDR doesn't give you a RAW file as the final output.
You can shoot in raw+JPEG/HEIF formats in HDR mode. The raw created in HDR mode has the same raw data as in standard mode, but contains additional information which Phocus can recognize:
- automatic switch to HDR editing.
- HNCS Dynamic Range Compression (DRC) availability.
Instead, the camera takes the RAW sensor data, processes it in-camera, and produces either a JPEG or HEIF. That's why you can't select RAW-only when HDR is turned on.
Processing to HDR JPEG/HEIF takes some time. Without HDR JPEG/HEIF, the camera cannot show the HDR image in the LCD.
It probably doesn't work in Manual mode because Hasselblad’s HDR feature is tied to the camera's automated exposure system.
For the new continuous AF using lidar, only these lenses are supported: XCD 2.8–4/35–100E, XCD 2.5/38V, XCD 2.5/55V, XCD 2.5/25V, XCD 2.5/90V, XCD 4/28P, and XCD 3.4/75P.
All of this has been really helpful for me since I was casually considering this camera down the road.
p.11 #6 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
Now that I've read more about the X2D II, I realize most of the comments in that video came from a lack of understanding about the features and limitations. Still, I'm glad I watched it...it helped me better understand the system and learn more about its capabilities and shortcomings, which I hadn't been fully aware of before.
It looks like an amazing camera, and if I were choosing between the SL3 and the X2D II, I'd probably go with the latter this time.
Question: Since the camera lacks a mechanical shutter, do adapted lenses only work with the electronic shutter? Wouldn't the slower readout speed cause significant rolling shutter effects?
p.11 #7 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
Fred Miranda wrote:
Now that I've read more about the X2D II, I realize most of the comments in that video came from a lack of understanding about the features and limitations. Still, I'm glad I watched it...it helped me better understand the system and learn more about its capabilities and shortcomings, which I hadn't been fully aware of before.
It looks like an amazing camera, and if I were choosing between the SL3 and the X2D II, I'd probably go with the latter this time.
Question: Since the camera lacks a mechanical shutter, do adapted lenses only work with the electronic shutter? Wouldn't the slower readout speed cause significant rolling shutter effects?...Show more →
Yes, adapted lenses work only with electronic shutter. In 14 bit mode, thanks to IBIS, readout is not that an issue with static targets. But it can be.
p.11 #8 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
Fred Miranda wrote:
Now that I've read more about the X2D II, I realize most of the comments in that video came from a lack of understanding about the features and limitations. Still, I'm glad I watched it...it helped me better understand the system and learn more about its capabilities and shortcomings, which I hadn't been fully aware of before.
It looks like an amazing camera, and if I were choosing between the SL3 and the X2D II, I'd probably go with the latter this time.
Question: Since the camera lacks a mechanical shutter, do adapted lenses only work with the electronic shutter? Wouldn't the slower readout speed cause significant rolling shutter effects?...Show more →
1/6 sec in 14 bit mode, 1/3 sec in 16 bit mode (iirc)
I had planned to use some of my M lenses on the X1D II ... without a focal plane shutter, the e-shutter is the only game in town. The rolling shutter became an issue in some regard. Jello was one, (electronic) lighting was another. Nothing that hasn't been discussed elsewhere regarding electronic shutter. I dig on a leaf shutter, but I didn't include the foresight about not having a mechanical shutter for adapting non-native glass.
So, yup ... rolling shutter is an issue, and depending on what you're shooting, it may / may not be an issue.
NOTE: Not as bad as the picture below. That was intentional camera movement play, to alternatively get creative with it.
My next go with the Hassy, I'll plan my lens lineup to include more native Hassy glass ... maybe, the M 135/3.4 APO will see some tripod duty on it, etc. My original plan for a hybrid Hassy + M glass didn't work out quite as I envisioned on the first go round.
p.11 #9 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
I have found no rolling shutter for my M tests so far. My main comment is vegetating, but that I live with. Today been shooting with f1.4 lenses at f1.4 to see how the focus peaking might aid me and the zoom helps even more. Then there is IBIS-remember to tell IBIS the FL of the lens. Not Sur about the GEO-spatial affects as not even tried to work with that feature.
p.11 #10 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
This is an interesting section in the FAQ on stabilization. I am not aware of any other camera using location information for fine tuning stabilization:
HOW DO I MAKE THE MOST OF 10-STOP STABILISATION?
1. Each time X2D II 100C connects to Phocus Mobile 2, it obtains current latitude/longitude position. Using location and compass information compensates for Earth's rotation effects on stabilisation. We recommend connecting to Phocus Mobile 2 before shooting to help the stabilisation system obtain latest geographic information, valid for 4 hours. When location changes significantly, obtain new position information.
p.11 #12 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
One of my complaints about the X2D was the out of camera jpegs, I had no way to adjust them pre-exposure like I can on my other digital cameras so it was a bit tough to use the camera across all the genres I would like because the raw file sizes are so massive and the jpegs came out pretty flat.
I'm finding that in using the HDR setting on jpegs with the X2D-II, they are darn near perfect right out of camera so I believe Hasselblad / DJI have put a ton of work into this paired with HNCS. Now the camera is just downright addicting to use.
p.11 #14 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
Apparently the 20-35E will never get a continuous autofocus update. Apparently this is because the hardware cannot handle it and because it's not necessary for a wide angle zoom.
I plan to only use this system for landscapes so this doesn't matter too much for me, but the 20-35E is pretty functional for environmental portraits, was only released around a year ago, and is purpotedly from their 'Exclusive' range so this is pretty disappointing.
The XD2 II is an excellent body, but I feel like the lenses are letting it down a bit. They are comparably compact compared to FF glass, but the combination of heavy vignetting, slow and noisy stepping motors, and all being fairly dark means that it only makes sense over the FF systems in very niche situations.
I'm still not sure whether I will keep mine or (for the first time in 25 years of shooting) return it along with the XCD lenses I purchased with the camera.
p.11 #15 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
Fred Miranda wrote:
So Gordon,
Since you own the camera, were his claims misleading? For example, does the X2D II's AF-C work with older XCD lenses or only the new ones? Does HDR only work with JPEG and not in manual mode? Is the LCD output inaccurate or can it be calibrated? It would be really helpful to know for people who own the camera.
Also, from the other video, have you noticed the AF-C missing focus during tracking, especially when the subject is moving towards you? These are the main cons I have seen mentioned so far.
No. But every point except the coloyr cast was mentioned in the release notes for the camera. For someine who's owned "every Hasselblad" he showed a remarkable lack of research and undedstanding of the equipment purely because he didnt bother to read up before plonking down his money. He's being sensationalist for clicks. Tbere's no useful information for potential buyers here.
So far AFC is actually OK for me. The Lidar gets confused at close distances. I think the lens blocks the laser. But at a foot or more I'm seeinv significant improvements, so far. It's early days. A sony A1ii it aint. I'm not interested in seeing if it can follow an Olympic sprinter.
And yes, I have a thing about poorly researched rants on social media.
p.11 #16 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
sidaths wrote:
Apparently the 20-35E will never get a continuous autofocus update. Apparently this is because the hardware cannot handle it and because it's not necessary for a wide angle zoom.
I plan to only use this system for landscapes so this doesn't matter too much for me, but the 20-35E is pretty functional for environmental portraits, was only released around a year ago, and is purpotedly from their 'Exclusive' range so this is pretty disappointing.
The XD2 II is an excellent body, but I feel like the lenses are letting it down a bit. They are comparably compact compared to FF glass, but the combination of heavy vignetting, slow and noisy stepping motors, and all being fairly dark means that it only makes sense over the FF systems in very niche situations.
I'm still not sure whether I will keep mine or (for the first time in 25 years of shooting) return it along with the XCD lenses I purchased with the camera....Show more →
Let me know if you plan to sell as I have 2 friends who are itching to get an X2DII and some lenses.
I also plan to mainly use mine for landscapes and the occasional environmental portraits. Only with the later will AFc matter to me while I am finding AFs works just fine.
The three important parameters for us is ISO, SS and f stop. Thus on my V lenses (which I actually prefer) I set the control to ISO, the front wheel is f stop and the rear wheel is shutter speed. Besides accurate focusing what more do we need?
p.11 #17 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
sidaths wrote:
Apparently the 20-35E will never get a continuous autofocus update. Apparently this is because the hardware cannot handle it and because it's not necessary for a wide angle zoom.
I plan to only use this system for landscapes so this doesn't matter too much for me, but the 20-35E is pretty functional for environmental portraits, was only released around a year ago, and is purpotedly from their 'Exclusive' range so this is pretty disappointing.
The XD2 II is an excellent body, but I feel like the lenses are letting it down a bit. They are comparably compact compared to FF glass, but the combination of heavy vignetting, slow and noisy stepping motors, and all being fairly dark means that it only makes sense over the FF systems in very niche situations.
I'm still not sure whether I will keep mine or (for the first time in 25 years of shooting) return it along with the XCD lenses I purchased with the camera....Show more →
Thanks for sharing your feedback. I really value posts like this because they help me understand potential pitfalls, especially since I had the 20-35mm on my radar for landscape shooting. I agree that AF-C isn't necessary for that purpose, but it's still a drawback for the lens if you want to use it for other types of photography.
p.11 #18 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
sidaths wrote:
Apparently the 20-35E will never get a continuous autofocus update. Apparently this is because the hardware cannot handle it and because it's not necessary for a wide angle zoom.
I plan to only use this system for landscapes so this doesn't matter too much for me, but the 20-35E is pretty functional for environmental portraits, was only released around a year ago, and is purpotedly from their 'Exclusive' range so this is pretty disappointing.
The XD2 II is an excellent body, but I feel like the lenses are letting it down a bit. They are comparably compact compared to FF glass, but the combination of heavy vignetting, slow and noisy stepping motors, and all being fairly dark means that it only makes sense over the FF systems in very niche situations.
I'm still not sure whether I will keep mine or (for the first time in 25 years of shooting) return it along with the XCD lenses I purchased with the camera....Show more →
The 20-35 is a really odd case, you would think they were already on track to introduce AF-C given competition from Fuji when that lens was on the drawing board. That and a super short focus throw for ultra wides, I don't get it either.
p.11 #19 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
Ai_Print wrote:
The 20-35 is a really odd case, you would think they were already on track to introduce AF-C given competition from Fuji when that lens was on the drawing board. That and a super short focus throw for ultra wides, I don't get it either.
Perhaps they will update this lens (hardware). It's such a great and versatile focal range (16-28 in full frame equiv.).
It's a shame though, since even their widest prime, the 21mm f/4, isn't supported either.
p.11 #20 · Official: Hasselblad X2D II 100C Medium Format Camera announced!
flash wrote:
The X2Dii has issues. These are not them.
Gordon
Seen a few people say that theirs (and the store demos) all have this "soft spot", doesn't seem like loose glue like the poster thinks, but curious if you guys are seeing this too.
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Seems kind of like a nothingburger, but people are sending theirs off to Sweden over it.
