What Fuji could potentially do, is create a Fx body with super shallow flange and offer adapters that mated lenses from the others. That would be interesting, but I suspect the electronics and processing would be a headache to design.
Jack Flesher wrote: . Well you'd only need to be about 25 years old to say that about a line introduced 13 years ago as a user, so it works for a lot of us
I’m old enough to remember shooting a Box Brownie… and purely—manual foldable fixed focal length 120 film cameras with focus-by-estimate lenses… and light meters. ;-)
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JadedWriter wrote:
There are technically 4/5 full frame mirrorless companies if you include Panasonic/Leica. I don't think current Nikon are struggling since they make a slew of lenses that Canon and Sony do not make and vice versa regarding the respective companies. They're not Canon or Sony big, but they seem to be doing fine. I do not see Fuji making a third lens lineup to go into FX. Even if they were able to co use stuff from G mount some of those lenses have AF so slow that it wouldn't be much of a benefit TBH.
I usually qualify that “three companies” reference by referring to The Big Three, which most of use still think of as Canon, Nikon, and Sony — but you are right that these are not the only companies making full frame cameras.
Reports of Nikon’s struggles have been around for the past few years. I think it was Tom Hogan who wrote quite a bit bout it a while back. From what I’ve heard recently they weathered the worst dangerous period and are on a bit more solid footing now. (None of that reflects on the excellent quality of their products, by the way.)
I agree that Fujifilm doesn’t seem to have the corporate wherewithal to produce a full line of FF lenses, but that’s a part of the larger point that I’m making. Even if they miraculously did somehow come out with as many lenses as, say, Nikon… they would still struggle to succeed as the fourth or fifth (or whatever) company to try to take a slice of the FF market.
The main point is that it would not be enough to equal what “The Big Three” offer, since that would not induce many users to switch… and having a market that is only a small subset of their current APS-C and miniMF market would not be viable. (I still hold that the best thing they could do would be to produce miniMF systems that are relatively small (already on the right track with the GFX 100s II), that are fast enough for most photography (short of sports, etc. — not there yet), and with lens options to roughly cover what serious users of comparable FF systems expect (also not there yet).
If they could, they would have an advantage over the FF manufacturers and Could more successfully draw users from the Big Three.
hilarious that the XE5 thread turns into a wacky debate about how and why Fuji would(n't)/could(n't) do Full Frame.
As long as they are selling GFX cameras as fast as they can make them, they have zero reason to make a 24x36mm sensor'd body.
The XE has long been the cheapest entry into "good" Fuji X bodies, priced below the XTx and XTxx, but above the XTxxx and XM options. The XM5 might have given them an alibi to shift that formula a bit, which I guess shouldn't be surprising. I just hope they keep the XE as a more stills-focused camera, that also does video. A dual-tilt screen like on the XT sounds like a nice compromise, as I and many others detest the flippy screens made for vlogging.
ISO1600 wrote:
hilarious that the XE5 thread turns into a wacky debate about how and why Fuji would(n't)/could(n't) do Full Frame.
As long as they are selling GFX cameras as fast as they can make them, they have zero reason to make a 24x36mm sensor'd body.
The XE has long been the cheapest entry into "good" Fuji X bodies, priced below the XTx and XTxx, but above the XTxxx and XM options. The XM5 might have given them an alibi to shift that formula a bit, which I guess shouldn't be surprising. I just hope they keep the XE as a more stills-focused camera, that also does video. A dual-tilt screen like on the XT sounds like a nice compromise, as I and many others detest the flippy screens made for vlogging....Show more →
Yeah, and that's on me. Sorry, all. I am very familiar by now with all of the Fuji lines, who they're (mostly) aimed at, why they likely won't venture into Fx, etc... It doesn't stop me from wishing. Let's get back the the XE-5 for the folks who want to discuss that. Cheers!
The only change I HATE HATE HATE is the strap eyelets. Why do people prefer this style? The XE4 has the "Canon" type strap eyelets, which are far more compatible with anything that isn't a split ring. Why people use split ring straps in 2025 baffles me to high hell.
Other than that, looks great. The MSC switch is a welcome return. The "AF" light (prob also a video light) is a nice addition.
524f44 wrote:
With the focus switch on the side, it looks like an X100 series camera. With a removable lens...
Imo that’s exactly what the X-E series should be. Would be great if they also upgraded the body materials to the X100 aluminium build.
We haven’t seen the top yet but I hope that „viewfinder selector switch“ on the front is customizable with the standard function being the rumored „film simulation dial“. If we could set that thing to ISO or aspect ratio or AF area that would be neat.
ISO1600 wrote:
The only change I HATE HATE HATE is the strap eyelets. Why do people prefer this style? The XE4 has the "Canon" type strap eyelets, which are far more compatible with anything that isn't a split ring. Why people use split ring straps in 2025 baffles me to high hell.
Other than that, looks great. The MSC switch is a welcome return. The "AF" light (prob also a video light) is a nice addition.
And here, I absolutely prefer strap eyelets that allow for a split ring. This is because I mostly use wrist straps. My leather wrist straps from Gordy’s camera straps look way better (and feel better) with direct split ring attachment, and if I want to use a string attachment for a different strap that can attach directly to the lug without having to use a split ring at all. If I want a full wide neck strap, the split D rings that come with are available.
I guess if I only used neck straps I might prefer the wider attachment, but my bodies that don’t have a lug are annoying to me because I have to use a string attachment for my wrist straps to avoid scraping the paint off them with a split ring, and then they just look and feel weird to me.
And yet another control layout. If Fuji was serious about photography (and not only looks) they would stay with one control layout. The best one for me was that of the X-E3. But regardless of which one: Moving buttons and dials around requires a different muscle memory, which makes using different Fuji cameras painful. The X-E3 is easy to control with only the index finger and the thumb w/o taking the eye off the EVF.
fjablo wrote:
Imo that’s exactly what the X-E series should be. Would be great if they also upgraded the body materials to the X100 aluminium build.
We haven’t seen the top yet but I hope that „viewfinder selector switch“ on the front is customizable with the standard function being the rumored „film simulation dial“. If we could set that thing to ISO or aspect ratio or AF area that would be neat.
Whatever Fuji has come up with, one thing is for sure. Half of us will hate it, half us will not.
That is an insane price point, if the FujiRumors report is correct — the same list price for the XE5 as the current price for the XT5 body: $1699. ($1899 with the 23mm pancake lens.)
If memory serves, I think that I recall the XE models once selling for about half that price.
I’ve been a fan of the XE line for user-specific purposes for a long time, but it is hard to imagine many will pay that much for this model. It also removes the attraction of the lower price point compared ot options from other brands.
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