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Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread

  
 
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p.42 #1 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


senna4ever wrote:
A few (unspectacular) shots with a GFX 100RF pre-production unit - I mostly shoot my GFX 100II in the 65:24 aspect ratio, as I still also regularly use my Hasselblad Xpan - so I did the same with the RF. B&W shots are with the in camera ACROS with red filter or green filter film simulations applied. For those complaining about the lack of IBIS, I've consistently been getting sharp shots handheld at 1/15 sec without any problems. Just don't rush....slow down, use it like you would a Leica M and you'll be fine.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54440646912_7af9c103e6_b.jpgDSCF2282-2

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54441692449_fdc6a23081_b.jpgDSCF2282

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54441874590_0a80047b78_b.jpgDSCF2159

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54440646877_ed64d99344_b.jpgDSCF2468

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54441874640_5d802b6846_b.jpgDSCF2153

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Thanks for taking the time to post these. I'm looking forward to seeing more images from this camera, and if they're from my home city, even better!

—Peter.



Apr 09, 2025 at 07:26 PM
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p.42 #2 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


senna4ever wrote:
Just don't rush....slow down, use it like you would a Leica M and you'll be fine.


I think this is the rub where some folks are ready to embrace this ... while others are looking for every reason to fight it, tooth and nail.

Good to hear your 1/15s results ... pretty much inline with my expectations for a 35mm lens.

I know the "rule of thumb" for some is 1:1 and others use 2:1 for extra caution ... but, I also know that with good technique I can get 1:2 results with glass wider than the format diagonal. Here, we have the 4:3 at 55mm, so a 35mm lens is wider, by a factor of roughly 0.65 (not quite 0.5), so the 1:2 isn't really a 2X factor difference from 1:1 rule of thumb. More like 1.3X better technique required than the 1:1 rule of thumb.

Long way of saying ... yup, 1/15s with a decent steady hand and mental technique / approach is a reasonable expectation for hand held, stabilization.
1/8 (which would then be a 2.6X factor vs. the 1:1 rule of thumb) is probably a stretch with a drop in keeper rate.

And, 1/15s with f/4 is around EV 8. Bumping to ISO 1600 is another 4EV, and lands you into 4 EV territory, ISO 3200 ... 3 EV, etc. Add in the fact that you can likely lift another 3 EV in post, ISO 3200, 1/15s, f/4 could get you into 0 EV territory. See video in next post at 8:45 where a +4 EV exposure is applied to ISO 1000, f/4, 1/60s. The video then goes into ISO 12800, f/4, 1/30s, and finally at ISO 100,000. Also, 1/20s, ISO 8000 at 12:40.

He follows that with the comment, regarding the effectiveness of the leaf shutter / shutter release to help facilitate better handholding performance than what folks might be used to with others (i.e. focal plane shutters).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_value


The poster in the thread below shot 1/75's, ISO 3200, f/4 for a night scene. So, for those who aren't inclined toward 1/15s ... that's a couple stops diff, so maybe you're only good to 2 EV scenes handheld, etc.

https://www.techradar.com/cameras/compact-cameras/fujifilm-gfx100rf-vs-leica-q3-i-compared-two-of-the-best-compact-cameras-money-can-buy-and-i-have-a-definite-favorite



While the lack of IBIS is a highly contentious point for plenty of folks. I think those who have the wherewithal to think it through, will find it to not be nearly as limiting (albeit, requiring a different degree of care) as some might suggest.








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Apr 09, 2025 at 07:47 PM
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p.42 #3 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Here's another video, this time discussing the IQ.

The "one flaw" is mentioned @3:04 (I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else).

—Peter.





Apr 09, 2025 at 08:07 PM
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p.42 #4 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


As I said before I ended up cancelling my order.
It's a luxury product as I came to conclusion and I can't afford luxury products. You may ask if I have A7RV with 20G, 35GM, 65 APO and Ricoh GR3, it's a same value or even more expensive setup. But I can do everything with this setup, just A7RV with 35GM is far more versatile then GFX100RF because the IBIS, 26MP raw option, f1.4 aperture, and it's not huge in comparison. For everyday carry there is the GR3.
I'd use the GFX100RF instead of the GR3 with bit larger sling for everyday carry, also can replace my A7RV for landscape shootings, travelling. The problem it's just too expensive tool for carrying around daily for me. I can't accept more loss than GR3 value because thieving, accident damage or just left my sling somewhere. And if I just grab the camera for certain occasions as my A7RV, then what's the point?
I want this camera still because I'm a fan of technological achievements, image quality, but I can't afford beside my Sony this investment. My heart want the Fuji, my brain the Sony, but I can't have them both.



Apr 10, 2025 at 05:56 AM
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p.42 #5 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread




senna4ever wrote:
A few (unspectacular) shots with a GFX 100RF pre-production unit - I mostly shoot my GFX 100II in the 65:24 aspect ratio, as I still also regularly use my Hasselblad Xpan - so I did the same with the RF. B&W shots are with the in camera ACROS with red filter or green filter film simulations applied. For those complaining about the lack of IBIS, I've consistently been getting sharp shots handheld at 1/15 sec without any problems. Just don't rush....slow down, use it like you would a Leica M and you'll be fine.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54440646912_7af9c103e6_b.jpgDSCF2282-2

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54441692449_fdc6a23081_b.jpgDSCF2282

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54441874590_0a80047b78_b.jpgDSCF2159

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54440646877_ed64d99344_b.jpgDSCF2468

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54441874640_5d802b6846_b.jpgDSCF2153

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Could you please post a link to your full size images handheld at 1/15 second exposure? Thank you..



Apr 10, 2025 at 06:50 AM
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p.42 #6 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bwcolor wrote:
Could you please post a link to your full size images handheld at 1/15 second exposure? Thank you..


Agree. Really these don't show me much. The 4th B&W image looks blurry and could have been shot with any cam (I did see the EXIF). Not to be a tool about it just saying.



Apr 10, 2025 at 07:00 AM
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p.42 #7 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


fotografur wrote:
Agree. Really these don't show me much. The 4th B&W image looks blurry and could have been shot with any cam (I did see the EXIF). Not to be a tool about it just saying.


I do think that the photographer has pretty steady hands. To be able to post a useable downsized image at 1/25-1/30 is something that we can’t all do, but to post a sharp image handheld that can be greatly enlarged is another issue. You don’t really need a 100Mpix camera to post downsized images online, but you do need IBIS @ 1/15, or a tripod/clamp/table to rest camera on in order to produce a sharp large print. It is much easier/more productive @1/15 sec shooting with an A7Rv/A7CR (or the upcoming A7Rvi with image stabilization). Even with IBIS, 1/15 second exposures viewed at 100% aren’t a sure thing.



Apr 10, 2025 at 08:57 AM
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p.42 #8 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Has anyone seen examples shot at or near MFD (besides the one in Jonas' review)?


Apr 10, 2025 at 10:03 AM
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p.42 #9 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


mkuznicki wrote:
Has anyone seen examples shot at or near MFD (besides the one in Jonas' review)?


I've been searching Flickr and this is all I found so far


https://www.flickr.com/photos/keitth2010/54399766947/sizes/k/



Apr 10, 2025 at 11:17 AM
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p.42 #10 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


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p.42 #11 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bwcolor wrote:
I do think that the photographer has pretty steady hands. To be able to post a useable downsized image at 1/25-1/30 is something that we can’t all do, but to post a sharp image handheld that can be greatly enlarged is another issue. You don’t really need a 100Mpix camera to post downsized images online, but you do need IBIS @ 1/15, or a tripod/clamp/table to rest camera on in order to produce a sharp large print. It is much easier/more productive @1/15 sec shooting with an A7Rv/A7CR (or the upcoming A7Rvi with image stabilization). Even with IBIS, 1/15 second
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It’s pretty obvious that if you shoot a lot handheld at 1/15 second then this camera is not for you. Nothing new here…but if you shoot moving subjects which require a shutter speed of say 1/80 or shorter to stop the movement, then this camera can really fit that situation. I don’t see anything gained at trying to look at 1/15 sec images taken without ibis or OS…what are we really trying to determine in doing so?



Apr 10, 2025 at 12:50 PM
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p.42 #12 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


fotografur wrote:
Agree. Really these don't show me much. The 4th B&W image looks blurry and could have been shot with any cam (I did see the EXIF). Not to be a tool about it just saying.


Yes, it is a bit blurry if you blow it up, but I liked the image and much like Basil Fawlty, I was hoping I would get away with it.



Apr 10, 2025 at 12:54 PM
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p.42 #13 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bwcolor wrote:
Could you please post a link to your full size images handheld at 1/15 second exposure? Thank you..


Full frame shot with two 100% crops, unedited. 1/15 sec, f8, 3200 ISO

DSCF4047 by Jason Kazuta, on Flickr

DSCF4047-2 by Jason Kazuta, on Flickr

DSCF4047-3 by Jason Kazuta, on Flickr



Apr 10, 2025 at 01:00 PM
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p.42 #14 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


senna4ever wrote:
Full frame shot with two 100% crops, unedited. 1/15 sec, f8, 3200 ISO

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54442429417_724107611c_b.jpgDSCF4047 by Jason Kazuta, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54443474334_5626a26078_b.jpgDSCF4047-2 by Jason Kazuta, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54443474344_52927e1cf5_b.jpgDSCF4047-3 by Jason Kazuta, on Flickr


Wow, I bow down to your skill. Paint me envious.. Even bracing against the wall, I wouldn’t be able to reliably hold the camera sufficiently still.



Apr 10, 2025 at 01:12 PM
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p.42 #15 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bwcolor wrote:
Wow, I bow down to your skill. Paint me envious.. Even bracing against the wall, I wouldn’t be able to reliably hold the camera sufficiently still.

ACK....Don't bow down to me yet! I just realized that shot was taken with our GFX 100S II! + 23mm f4 lens! I will have to look for GFX100RF shots taken at 1/15 sec. Stand by.....



Apr 10, 2025 at 01:52 PM
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p.42 #16 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Indeed. Impressive what you can do with a miniMF camera with 8-stop IBIS! Seems like a pretty useful feature! ;-)

senna4ever wrote:
ACK....Don't bow down to me yet! I just realized that shot was taken with our GFX 100S II! + 23mm f4 lens! I will have to look for GFX100RF shots taken at 1/15 sec. Stand by.....




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Apr 10, 2025 at 02:31 PM
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p.42 #17 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


gdanmitchell wrote:
Indeed. Impressive what you can do with a digital MF camera with 8-stop IBIS! Seems like a pretty useful feature1 ;-)



Fixed that for you! No such thing as a mini, MF...



Apr 10, 2025 at 03:15 PM
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p.42 #18 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


DES-1 wrote:
Fixed that for you! No such thing as a mini, MF...


Seems to float around someone’s simple world…no one else’s.



Apr 10, 2025 at 04:04 PM
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DES-1 wrote:
Fixed that for you! No such thing as a mini, MF...


How do we differentiate between 44x33 and 53.4x40 sensors? They cannot be both MF. Calling 43x33 miniMF or cropMF does not sound derogatory but clarifying to me.



Apr 10, 2025 at 04:47 PM
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p.42 #20 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


SrMi wrote:
How do we differentiate between 44x33 and 53.4x40 sensors? They cannot be both MF. Calling 43x33 miniMF or cropMF does not sound derogatory but clarifying to me.


Well until the 53.4x40 sensors become mainstream the 44x33 is what everyone considers to be MF. In the film days we did not say mini MF for 645 cameras and maxi MF for 6x9 cameras…they were all MF cameras. Why is it we need to change our nomenclature for digital MF?



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