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p.40 #1 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread




Lukacs wrote:
If you shoot 1/25-1/13 in dark conditions all time, why an earth take an f4 fixed lens camera without IBIS and 100MP into consideration? This is 12-24MP low light specific sensor cameras territory with IBIS.
I almost bought the GFX100RF, but I realised in most time I just not want to handle 100MP raws, and I need more separation at 50mm, at least f2.8 FF equivalent. I don't think they should have built a different camera for my needs, it's just not suited well my needs.

I don’t consider it? But I would have, if it was either stabilized, or had a much faster lens.

I disagree that the conditions are 12-24mp territory. A 100mp middle format camera is perfect for soft light gradients, also in dark conditions.



Apr 08, 2025 at 08:54 AM
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Exactly shocking that people shoot different subjects. Isn’t it great that we all have an assortment of cameras to choose from to meet our needs. If ibis is key for your type of photography…then this camera is not for you…choose something else. Very simple.

I agree.

But I think people should still be able to criticize the camera, even if it’s not for them. It could have been different, and a mark ii version actually might implement stabilization.



Apr 08, 2025 at 08:59 AM
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p.40 #3 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


I wouldn’t say the 80mm crop is a “waste.” This series of my dogs Duke and Daisy was taken with an OM-1 at an effective focal length of 68mm. The exposure was set at f/4, 1/1600s, with ISO 500-640. My dogs go nuts playing in the backyard and it’s hard keeping them in the frame when zoomed in. Better to go wide and then crop. The GFX100RF set at 63mm equivalent would have yielded similar results. None are wall-hangers but they are fun pictures with good detail to look at with family!







One thing the GFX wouldn’t do as well is the slow frame rate relative to the OM-1 but I’m sure 6fps would still be good enough for the occasional “dog action” shot 🤪






Apr 08, 2025 at 09:31 AM
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p.40 #4 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Here’s one from a couple of days ago taken with the X100VI at f/8, 1/125s, ISO800. I knew I wanted a panoramic format when I saw this scene, but I misjudged the format so I had to crop more than I’d like in post, resulting in a 10MP image. With the GFX100RF, matching the perspective at 35mm (effective) digital zoom and setting the crop dial to 17/6, I could have “filled-in” the shot to maximize resolution at about 30MP, a 3X improvement! More likely, I would have set 17/6 at 28mm and stood closer yielding 4X resolution and maybe more depth in the perspective (not sure if that would improve the composition, but I would have experimented to find out.)






Apr 08, 2025 at 09:39 AM
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p.40 #5 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


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But it's not F4 at 50mm, it's like 50mm F6. It's a significant difference. But I just can't expect from such small lens this ability. There are arguments about f2.8 lens instead the F4. I can't agree, if the lens sticking out 30-50mm more and larger diameter it's better to go with an ILCE option.
In my case I can't spend a dime more on photography than GFX100RF current value, even this price is over my budget, but I'd trade my a7RV, 20G, 35GM, 65 APO for it, and still I have to finance some difference. I just can't justify
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I’m familiar with your equipment. I had an A7Rv..now A7CR..35GM is one of the most useful lenses made and stellar at f/1.4..65 APO (stellar lens .. one of their best).. I sold, then months later bought another 35mm GM. When you add in the IBIS of the A7Rv, there is little that your system can’t do on the street. Your EVF is better than the Fuji, or anything that I currently own. If you want to go even smaller, try the A7CR..large reduction in EVF resolution..and any one of a number of small Sony G and Sigma lenses. E-Mount gives you a lot of flexibility. Personally, the next camera that I will look at is a medium format, single lens IBIS based offering, or the Hasselblad X3D…not the update about to drop. I should say that an A7CR2 with a much better EVF would also be on my radar. Also, the A7Rvi should drop within the next year.

The Fuji RF is an amazing camera for those that need a single daylight solution. I was looking at it as a single travel camera. Something that I use to do with the Mamiya 7ii and 65mm lens, or any one of three generation of X100.



Apr 08, 2025 at 09:57 AM
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p.40 #6 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bwcolor wrote:
If you just post to the Internet, make small prints then go slower, but at that point, why not use a stabilized FF camera like the A7CR?

I wanted this camera prior to examining my metadata. I post now in the hopes that those that haven’t used larger sensors, realistically examine their needs.


Exactly

Lukacs wrote:
Reading about GFX100RF on internet it's just hilarious suddenly everybody want to shoot 1-1/10s handheld.
I don't have a single handheld shot under 1/60s, and 50-70% of that 1/60 are instant garbage because the subject movements.

I don't say lack of IBIS and F4 lens is not a compromise, but in every occasion folks focus only those shortcomings.


your post implies a few important things.

First, the supposed longest possible handheld exposure varied among photographers and circumstances and focal length and… basically, it is impossible to objectively state that some particular shutter speed is the “lowest usable” in a general sense.

Second, there isn’t a clear binary between “this shutter speed works all the time” and “this shutter speed won’t work.” Around the supposed boundary the success rate (and/or acceptable sharpness) decreases. You might have a 50% success rate as some shutter speed. And even at shorter exposure times than we consider normal, sometimes we get camera motion blur.

Three, (and obviously) the point at which the success rate chill be too low shifts to longer exposures as the focal length gets shorter.

So, IBIS ins’t only there to let us use extremely long exposures (like that 1/10 to 1/5 second range). Even at 1/60 second where we might get a decent success rate with handheld shots, the success rate will rise with IBIS to the extent that it stabilizes the camera and reduces camera motion blur.

vineyard wrote:
I think people should still be able to criticize the camera, even if it’s not for them. It could have been different, and a mark ii version actually might implement stabilization.


Exactly.

I’m amused by the “if it isn’t right for you, move on” folks — who seem to think that the only acceptable comments are from folks who totally love the thing they love. These are “discussion” forums, not “exuberant praise only’ forums.

(It is especially ironic when the objection comes from those who post lots of criticism of the gear that isn’t right for them… and of people they don’t like to hear from.)





Apr 08, 2025 at 10:08 AM
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p.40 #7 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bwcolor wrote:
If you just post to the Internet, make small prints then go slower, but at that point, why not use a stabilized FF camera like the A7CR?



gdanmitchell wrote:
Exactly



Because of the lens. This is also an effective APS-C camera with a pancake 18-35mm F2-3.6 lens on it with the ergonomics of a X-E4 with a very good EVF. This is before the pre-visualization aspect ratio capability.

There exists no other camera like this on the market.

The Sony does not have a distance scale in its UI. It does not have a tilt LCD. I cannot buy this product elsewhere.

I would if I could.

People are so caught up in seeing this as providing the image quality of medium format that they only see it in that box.

They forget the other benefit of medium format, at least for film, the flexibility of its crop-ability.

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Apr 08, 2025 at 10:21 AM
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Here are a couple of shots taken several years ago with a Canon 20D (maximum 8MP!).

The first was taken at an effective focal length of 64mm, f/8, 1/160s, ISO 200. I could easily match this with the GFX100RF but at much higher resolution.



The second was shot at an effective focal length of 35mm, f/8, 1/500s, ISO 200. This one was taken with a tinted graduated ND filter which i think i could match with the GFX ND and masking in post-processing. Again, the RF would yield much higher resolution.



Both of these were taken on family trips. The RF would have been a smaller carry.



Apr 08, 2025 at 10:33 AM
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vineyard wrote:
I agree.

But I think people should still be able to criticize the camera, even if it’s not for them. It could have been different, and a mark ii version actually might implement stabilization.


Criticize is one thing, to tell people why this camera is not for them or for only a tiny niche of photographers is another thing. Now I’m not saying you are of this pack of a few who have posted over 40 times on a camera that is not for them…but I really wonder why so much interest in a camera that they have no interest in. Maybe they live a boring life?



Apr 08, 2025 at 10:48 AM
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p.40 #10 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


gdanmitchell wrote:
I’m amused by the “if it isn’t right for you, move on” folks — who seem to think that the only acceptable comments are from folks who totally love the thing they love. These are “discussion” forums, not “exuberant praise only’ forums.

(It is especially ironic when the objection comes from those who post lots of criticism of the gear that isn’t right for them… and of people they don’t like to hear from.)



Like an LP skipping on the turntable…



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p.40 #11 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


bwcolor wrote:
I post now in the hopes that those that haven’t used larger sensors, realistically examine their needs



I'm leaving this forum, as I find the people here rather rude.

I have a X2D 100C readily available to me, and have considered buying a XCD 38mm F2.5 V or a 28mm F4 P for it. But I've decided to buy a GFX100RF instead.

I don't go around presuming to know what other people need their cameras for. Or that there is another tool that's the right tool for their jobs.

I'm kind of jealous of those who get these cameras for the benefits exclusive to 44x33mm image quality. Because they already enjoy products like the X2D 100C or other GFX cameras that are already so compact.

While I've been using the same cameras for the last 6 years because, quite frankly, there hasn't been meaningful innovation in my space.

The GFX100RF is a gimped X2D 100C + P lens. One with IBIS will come, that's obvious. It was just a question getting the product to market at this price point at this time.

People who want an EDC IBIS 44x33mm camera already have something that already, mostly, meets their use case (X2D 100C + XCD P), albeit at double what it should cost, and yes, still bigger and heavier than what Fuji has produced.

So I don't go around telling people they should realistically reexamine their needs.

Meanwhile, finally, I'm getting something innovative that, mostly, meets my use case, though at double the cost as well. But it opens up something new with that aspect ratio dial. That's exciting. No more masking tape on the LCD.

I'm happy enough as none of us ever gets the camera that exactly suits our needs, but at least something interesting to me has come.

The arrogance here is really unfriendly and unwelcoming. I suppose that's the internet though.

In the meantime, before I go, if anyone has a GFX100RF on preorder in the US from day 1 they're thinking of canceling, please let me know. I made my preorder on day 3 or 4 (as I took a few days to decide to buy this camera) and I have an Asia trip coming up right around the shipping date (April 22-23). Or maybe a swap is in order -- mine is in black and from B&H.

Thank you.



Apr 08, 2025 at 10:55 AM
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chez is:
Like an LP skipping on the turntable…


But enough about you...



Apr 08, 2025 at 12:09 PM
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jjcha wrote:
In the meantime, before I go, if anyone has a GFX100RF on preorder in the US from day 1 they're thinking of canceling, please let me know. I made my preorder on day 3 or 4 (as I took a few days to decide to buy this camera) and I have an Asia trip coming up right around the shipping date (April 22-23). Or maybe a swap is in order -- mine is in black and from B&H.

Thank you.


My mistake was to cancel my silver pre order on the 20th of March and then pre order again on the 31st.

I was told initially that mine would ship in the 23rd of April. But with the new pre order date, it has shifted from 24th April or later. So, due to my hesitancy, I don’t really have any expectations on getting it in late April.

I think, the GFX100RF is going to be a hot seller in spite of its high price. Hoping to be pleasantly surprised and get it in the last week of April.

I don’t think you will get it before your trip if you plan on leaving April 22-23rd.
Regardless, have a great trip.



Apr 08, 2025 at 12:46 PM
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I'm leaving this forum, as I find the people here rather rude.

Thank you.


If I were you, just put some people on ignore, and enjoy the discussion otherwise.

I think this is a pretty cool camera, and a lot of people out there are grappling with FOMO of an expensive camera and convincing themselves it is bad and not for them. It's a self-defense mechanism in an effort to fight GAS. You see this happen with so many new releases on this forum.



Apr 08, 2025 at 12:50 PM
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Here in Vienna, they have a walkabout with the new 100RF on Thursday and I now regret not signing up for it. It's only that day and now fully booked. The camera keeps intriguing me, like other fixed-lens cameras. But those cameras are also the ones that I use the least, so I should learn my lesson.

I've also recently gotten a bit more familiar with Saul Leiter's work. He often used longer lenses for his street work, something that intrigues me as I often find the usual 28mm too wide. This camera would not fit in that new focus.



Apr 08, 2025 at 01:01 PM
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quasitime wrote:
… and a lot of people out there are grappling with FOMO of an expensive camera and convincing themselves it is bad and not for them. It's a self-defense mechanism in an effort to fight GAS. You see this happen with so many new releases on this forum.


Weill, it could FOMO, but there are other sensible explanations, too. :-)

Another thing we commonly see (in this forum and others) is “irrational exuberance” about the latest meme product when it is announced and first shipped (and getting hyped by influencers) followed by the awareness that it isn’t the World’s Most Perfect Thing that will Change My Life Forever a bit later. We’re already starting to see a bit of that in this very forum!

Again, there are things that are impressive about this camera and there is a use case for it, but it is a pretty narrow one, FWIW.

johnvanr wrote:
've also recently gotten a bit more familiar with Saul Leiter's work. He often used longer lenses for his street work, something that intrigues me as I often find the usual 28mm too wide. This camera would not fit in that new focus.


Saul Leiter’s street photograph is beautiful and inventive. Anyone who doesn’t know his work and wants to (or already does) shoot street should be familiar with it.

Lots of things are stated as facts about photography gear which, if you look closely, aren’t facts at all. Wide angle lenses are the most important for landscape photography. Shoot portraits with a super-large aperture 85mm prime. Street photography is done with 35mm (or 28mm, or whatever) lenses.

You could shoot street with a wider lens and plenty of people have. But every focal length choice has its pluses and minuses. Wider can include more of the environment — either when that is the subject itself or when you want people to appear smaller and in the context of their surroundings, or if you feel that you want to photograph people at very short distances.

But if that’s the only lens you have, other subjects aren’t going work as well: that person across the street, a head and shoulders shot, a tighter framing of the subject that excludes more of the background environment.

It is a choice. Either way, you lose some possibilities.

A lot of photographers choose something a bit longer. 35mm is common, but that’s still a bit wide. 28mm isn’t exactly uncommon, but it is less popular. 50mm is less popular today. (That’s what HCB used.) But it does isolate subjects a bit better. 40mm is/was a somewhat common compromise between 35mm and 50mm. (I’m using 35mm film focal lengths here, to convert for. your favorite format.)

So, what do you do? There’s no one right answer to “what is the right focal length” for street. If you are going to stick to a single focal length, it is pretty important to spend some time figuring out what works best for you — by making a lot of photographs with different focal lengths and watching for a preference/trend to appear. The answer is partly what focal length you prefer, what you are willing to sacrifice, and what you can do if it isn’t quite right.

If you haven’t photographed enough to have a pretty clear experience-based idea of what works for you, it is probably a good idea to experiment with something inexpensive or, even better, with a small camera that lets you try different focal lengths… before you spend a ton of money on a hunch… unless, of course, you have so muchcash that $5k is nothing to you.

(I’ll propose one rule: If you are on the fance between two focal lenghts, better to get the slightly wider one. You can crop, but you can’t make the image include more than it includes… Adobe trickery aside.)



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A lot of photographers choose something a bit longer. 35mm is common, but that’s still a bit wide. 28mm isn’t exactly uncommon, but it is less popular. 50mm is less popular today. (That’s what HCB used.) But it does isolate subjects a bit better. 40mm is/was a somewhat common compromise between 35mm and 50mm. (I’m using 35mm film focal lengths here, to convert for. your favorite format.)

So, what do you do? There’s no one right answer to “what is the right focal length” for street. If you are going to stick to a single focal length, it is pretty important
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28mm is a classic focal length - just pick the right classic Make your mind if you want to be H-CB or Garry Winogrand, and chooce accordingly - there is Leica Q 43 for the conservatives.

Today there is also another reason to go 28mm as everyone is visually used to phone photography. Phone photography has been transformative in making photography a more intimate and less formal art form.

I shoot family portraits, street and snaphots all the time @28mm. Attaching some exactly 10 years old images shot with Nikon Coolpix A. It is open to debate if GFX100RF would render them nicer but that is the use case I have in my mind. I would not even think to shoot a formal portrait with this camera.

Portrait by Tuomo Kokkonen, on Flickr

Man With a Bottle by Tuomo Kokkonen, on Flickr

Westminster Bridge by Tuomo Kokkonen, on Flickr



Apr 08, 2025 at 03:49 PM
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As I mentioned earlier there's huge difference handheld 1/60 at 100MP and 12MP for pixel level sharpness. What resolution you want in dimm light?
90% of time I don't need high resolution, 24MP plenty enough. It's a lot more forgiving for camera shake. I think it's huge miss from Fuji not implementing smaller resolution raws, 24 or 30 MP. I just don't need 100MP most time from this kind of camera, the resolution more important here for cropping. I hope later they fix this with firmware update, this is one of the deal breaker for me, I don't want hassle with 200MB raws in every single shot.



Apr 08, 2025 at 04:02 PM
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My M11 has that smaller raws feature, and I've never used it. But again, it's a thing that will be important to some folks and not others. To me, it's yet another setting that adds to the mental overhead, something I'll forget to change and regret it.

FWIW the compressed files from this sensor are more like 100MB.



Apr 08, 2025 at 04:05 PM
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tuomkok wrote:
28mm is a classic focal length - just pick the right classic Make your mind if you want to be H-CB or Garry Winogrand, and chooce accordingly - there is Leica Q 43 for the conservatives.


On the general principles (that ‘28mm is a classic focal length” and a fine choice for some photographers) I think we’re in agreement.

I was not taking a position for or against any specific focal length, just pointing out that fine street photographers use other focal lengths (like the 50mm length mentioned in the post I replied to) and those who (unlike you) don’t already know that 28mm is the right length for them may want to make sure before they invest $5k in a camera that only has the angle-of-view equivalent of 28mm on on full frame.

(My usual preference for one-prime-only photography is roughly the 40mm (FF equivalent) angle of view. Personally, I would not be happy only having 28mm… though there are moments when I’m out with just the 40mm that I could use something wider… just as there are times when I could use something longer. YMMV.)

Take care,

Dan



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