"A new Leica M camera with an electronic viewfinder is rumored to be announced later this year (2025). I already posted several leaked pictures from a recent Leica survey where they described different design update options, and one of them includes an EVF
This rumored Leica M EVF camera (not the actual model name) WILL NOT BE the Leica M12. This makes sense – Leica will keep the M12 as the “classic” rangefinder line and will introduce a new “modern” option with EVF and other changes – for example, only a large touchscreen LCD without buttons."
p.1 #2 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
Okay, just saw the same and also started a thread about it but deleted after you posted first ! Leica might have actually listened! Funny that it is supposed to be named here (temporarily?) like I always called it EVF-M (or M-EVF) .
I wonder what the opening on the upper right side of the camera is - a flash? The EVF based viewfinder is likely on the back of the camera housing only. Seems to come in M-mount which is great! As I said before, this way Leica avoids in-house competition with AF-based Leica cameras like the SL and Q-series. As I predicted! Fingers crossed it turns out true.
p.1 #4 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
icarus_ wrote:
Great idea IMHO, this would potentially get me into the M-system unless they release a Q3/Q4 with a 35mm lens.
Unlikely with the 43mm. And honestly I’m not hearing many issues with 35mm shooters adapting (or 50mm either). It was a really smart move on. Leica’s part.
p.1 #5 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
I would get this for sure, even though I haven’t shot a single frame with an M for months. I do use the manual focus on the Q’s a bit.
I really wish they’d add a frame in frame option for focusing about the same size as the RF patch so I don’t lose my framing completely while focusing.
p.1 #6 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
I already have a similar setup with the Sony A7CR using the "UT" modification and an E to M adapter. While I do use it with a few E-mount autofocus lenses, it is primarily dedicated to M lenses since it performs similarly to a Leica thin sensor, like the M11. However, I would gladly replace it with the new Leica body, especially if it is compact and features a higher-quality electronic viewfinder.
p.1 #7 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
flash wrote:
I would get this for sure, even though I haven’t shot a single frame with an M for months. I do use the manual focus on the Q’s a bit.
I really wish they’d add a frame in frame option for focusing about the same size as the RF patch so I don’t lose my framing completely while focusing.
Gordon
My M glass "splits time" between my M's and my SL2-S. Will be interesting to see what all the bring to the table in this, if they indeed do go that route. Specifically, do they remove opti-mechanical coupling from the RF, and in doing so, does it offer re-engineering opportunities that make IBIS more viable in the M.
In other words, do they make a "double jump" with EVF and IBIS. I mean (whether or not it is desired for a given person, or not) ... if they're playing that "we listened" card, it's hard to imagine hearing about EVF, and not hearing about IBIS. Folks have been clamoring for each for a long time, now.
Of course, we're still talking "rumors" and it's a ways off, still.
p.1 #8 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
flash wrote:
Unlikely with the 43mm. And honestly I’m not hearing many issues with 35mm shooters adapting (or 50mm either). It was a really smart move on. Leica’s part.
I vote for a 90mm first though.
Gordon
I'm such a shooter - went from 35 and 50mm on Sony to the Q3 43 and loving it. In fact, the other nice things about the Q-series are (1) IP52 weather sealing and (2) the simplicity of one lens.
There's a part of me that wants an M for the most complete Leica experience though. Maybe I'll just get an old film rangefinder and putt around with that.
p.1 #9 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
EVF alone would be instant buy, especially if priced below the M11. EVF + IBIS would be instant buy and never look back. I'm done with the optical rangefinder. The old school joy has been greatly overshadowed by camera and lens calibration issues.
Hope they at least use the Q3 EVF and not just move the Visoflex 2 into the body. Not sure there's room for the EVF optics from the SL2/SL3, but that would be ideal.
p.1 #10 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
The SLx (2) cameras with six bit adapter for M lenses have the best EVF based manual focus experience available today in my experience. This stands even when including tracking feature in the Nikon ZF.
The SL EVF is so bright large and natural. Combined with the smoothness of the Leica IBIS, camera ergonomics, and M lens designs, provides an unmatched experience.
If Leica can improve on that it may be worth a look. But the M/SL combo with the much improved AF in the latest generation SL now means I can confidently shoot Leica in the vast majority of use cases.
p.1 #12 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
1bwana1 wrote:
The SLx (2) cameras with six bit adapter for M lenses have the best EVF based manual focus experience available today in my experience. This stands even when including tracking feature in the Nikon ZF.
The SL EVF is so bright large and natural. Combined with the smoothness of the Leica IBIS, camera ergonomics, and M lens designs, provides an unmatched experience.
If Leica can improve on that it may be worth a look. But the M/SL combo with the much improved AF in the latest generation SL now means I can confidently shoot Leica in the vast majority of use cases....Show more →
Judging from the rumored photo, I already like this smaller EVF-M's body style much more than the bulky SL body. And that no adapter is needed to mount M lenses! It will be purely manual focus based M-experience similar to rangefinder M cameras.
I am curious though how the EVF is different in SL and Q vs. EVF-M.
p.1 #13 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
That's just a fun concept image. The new EVF M probably won't have a removable plate or buttons and a flash in that spot. It's just a mockup, not a leaked photo of the actual camera. If this rumor turns out to be accurate, we'll likely have to wait until closer to the end of the year to see the real thing leaked.
p.1 #14 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
The external EVF on my M11 doesn’t do much for me, so only a focus experience like the Nikon Zf would make this a perfect setup to combine zone focusing and reliable wide open focusing. I fear the price would hold me back, though.
p.1 #15 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
Fred Miranda wrote:
That's just a fun concept image. The new EVF M probably won't have a removable plate or buttons and a flash in that spot. It's just a mockup, not a leaked photo of the actual camera. If this rumor turns out to be accurate, we'll likely have to wait until closer to the end of the year to see the real thing leaked.
+1. The biggest bummer for me with such EVF-M would be if it comes equipped with L-mount instead of M-mount. I really have no intention to use my smaller M lenses with adapter. Then I can just get a Nikon Zf instead. As I mentioned above main reason for Leica to equip this one with M-mount is to avoid in-house competition with AF-based versions like the SL and Q-series. I hope it is s strong enough reason for them since I personally have zero interest in the L-mount.
p.1 #16 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
Not that Leica appears to give a toss what its competition is doing, but that mockup has "X-100" DNA in it, to my eye. I've owned 3 different X-100 cameras and while they are nifty and make great images, you're always aware of the relative cheapness if you also shoot, or have ever shot, an M. I definitely think there is room in the market for the "X-100-style camera that is of Leica quality and plays in the M-mount sandbox"
p.1 #17 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
highdesertmesa wrote:
EVF alone would be instant buy, especially if priced below the M11. EVF + IBIS would be instant buy and never look back. I'm done with the optical rangefinder. The old school joy has been greatly overshadowed by camera and lens calibration issues.
Hope they at least use the Q3 EVF and not just move the Visoflex 2 into the body. Not sure there's room for the EVF optics from the SL2/SL3, but that would be ideal.
Priced below the M11- Cmon man, you have been with Leica FAR to long to know that is 100% not going to happen!
p.1 #18 · A Leica M camera with an EVF is expected by the end of 2025
RustyBug wrote:
My M glass "splits time" between my M's and my SL2-S. Will be interesting to see what all the bring to the table in this, if they indeed do go that route. Specifically, do they remove opti-mechanical coupling from the RF, and in doing so, does it offer re-engineering opportunities that make IBIS more viable in the M.
In other words, do they make a "double jump" with EVF and IBIS. I mean (whether or not it is desired for a given person, or not) ... if they're playing that "we listened" card, it's hard to imagine hearing about EVF, and not hearing about IBIS. Folks have been clamoring for each for a long time, now.
Of course, we're still talking "rumors" and it's a ways off, still....Show more →
Unless there is a major technological jump, I very much doubt it would have IBIS (even though I would love that). You would need the lens mount to be pushed out 5mm or more to leave room for the required mechanisms, and I doubt they would do that. Or, of course, make the body 5mm or more thicker, and we know how that would go over.