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 p.28 #10 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications | |
artsupreme wrote:
I would definitely skip the R1 as I can't imagine anyone needing it unless they are a top paid sports shooter....at this point it's like, how many images do you want to throw away, instead of how many do you want in focus. And of course the R1 is only 24mp.
For all you guys who use multiple brands, the A1mkII will be the one to get. Coming soon I imagine? Then we'll be back to comparing the A1mkII to the R5II like we did for the A1 to the R5, and I think I know who the winner will be.
It will be a faster sensor (Sony) vs better ML (Canon) kind of fight I guess.
Also, reminded me this: https://bit.ly/4dtY6Bl 
rscheffler wrote:
That is the crux of the backlash against the R1. Here is my prediction about where the R1 may have advantages over the R5II:
- Overall user experience. This of course is nebulous and very subjective. But IMO if 45 vs. 24MP isn't a high priority, I'm guessing the R1 will be the more enjoyable camera to use because it will be the most 'transparent.' By that I mean, least likely to get in the way, or that you will fight with. In this respect the R5II should be better than the R5 and even the R5/6II/7/8 generation, but ergonomically, it's still in the R5/6 style body which at least for me, is less enjoyable to hold and use than the R3 style body. There were comments way back that some of the R5II rear buttons are more pronounced and easier to identify by feel and/or operate with gloves, which would go some way towards improving the experience for me, but only partly. The BG-R10 grip buttons/controls layout is suboptimal and doesn't feel as nice as the R3. Apparently the BG-R20 has been tweaked, but would welcome any user feedback. The BG-R10 was the most difficult transition point for me coming from the 1DXII - it just felt wrong in comparison.
- Buffer. Jeff Cable touched on this. Depends on how much you rely on long RAW bursts.
- Cross sensitivity vs. single direction sensitivity. Unknown how much of a difference this will make in real world use. But for sure, the R1 will lock focus on lines in the direction that all previous Canon mirrorless cameras would not focus on.
- EVF performance. How fluid will the R5II be in high speed situations such as panning? I'm guessing thanks to its stacked sensor it will be blackout free, but the R1's sensor is about 2x faster readout speed and may allow for higher speed EVF refresh.
- With ring USM lenses the R1 may still drive AF faster, including initial acquisition speed. This might be less of a factor with newer RF lenses like the 100-300 you just got that are not ring USM. It may make some difference for those still adapting older EF super-teles.
For me, because I don't care that much about 45 vs. 24MP, if I could justify the R1's cost, I would get it hands down over the R5II. In your case, it might be worth renting for a week to get an impression about it....Show more →
All valid points, Ron.
99% I take people's pictures, so 24Mpx works fine for me as well. I'd appreciate some extra megapixels for cropping for the remaining 1% when I'm out for a bird or an insect. So far my only concern about the R1 is its size, not Mpx. It's a serious brick no matter what lens you mount on, and it's not something I'd carry every day. It's just causing way too much attention IMHO...
I still had no chance to try my R5II in a game (it got rescheduled to the upcoming weekend), so for me "R1 or not R1" will likely depend on the % of keepers I get. Based on what I see so far I'm keeping my expectations high!
arbitrage wrote:
OMG!!! Stop the presses. A professional sports shooter said he likes a higher resolution camera?? No way...every "professional" or "arm chair expert" on here keeps telling us that sports guys only want 24MP and that is why the R1 is 24MP.
It's the same as if he liked to be better paid vs less paid  Of course anybody would love more megapixels, but for people's photography it's a little different than for birds. If you're shooting with a 400mm and need to crop far past APS-C, you're likely far enough to cause air distortions/shimmering, so those extra megapixels may not bring much benefits. Artificial turf is the worst: >10m distance @ 35C and all you get is mush.
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