p.2 #1 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
armd wrote:
Wow. $4200 for a camera with a slower read out speed than a Z8? Any word on zebras? RAW pre-capture?
Update to my previous answer...Jan seems to imply in this video that R5II is RAW in precapture (but does require the new battery to enable the feature). For sure it is RAW in the R1 but it is conflicting with DPReview's article saying jpeg only on the R5II. I've asked Jan in the comments on YT to double check. Hopefully there is clarification out there somewhere.
Nothing about zebras from Jan's video.
p.2 #2 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
Hairy Heron wrote:
Well we don't actually know how inflation impacted Canon here. But the R5 has a a couple of worthy competitors and they are both about $1K less. I'm locked into Canon at this point and have a R5II on order, but whether it's $1K better than it's competition, we'll see. (Not being negative -- excited to get my hands on the R5 II, just being honest -- it's no bargain).
How is this not competitive?
A1 $6500
Z9 $5500
R5II $4300
p.2 #3 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
lighthound wrote:
And Sony will follow in 2032.
Yeah...maybe...don't really see Sony doing it at all. Doesn't really need to as just picking a smaller AF point the camera will drive from far to near without issue. Also they've now added via FW the slick implementation of distance pre-set...assign to any custom key (which we know Sonys have more than anyone) and long-press to set, quick press to recall....Nikon requires two buttons to be wasted to do the same thing. I can't remember if Canon has this feature now
p.2 #7 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
bernardl wrote:
I would agree that there is no evidence at this point about a significant difference in AF performance, just marketing talk.
Agreed....absolutely zero evidence out there so far....I'm sure AF will be great....but saying it blows the Z8 away is over the top hyperbole at this point in time
p.2 #8 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
Jan's video brings up a couple more interesting points:
1) There is still a dead stop to shooting if you hit the buffer unlike Sony/Nikon that allow you to continue shooting at a lower FPS as the buffer clears
2) Buffer is 200 shots in CRAW at 30FPS which is about equal to the 200 shots at 20FPS in the R5. So you will be able to shoot for less overall time due to the faster FPS before you hit the hard stop, forced to 0FPS by the full buffer. Good news is this should mean at 20FPS the buffer is deeper than the R5.
p.2 #9 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
The R5 mark ii has RAW precapture per the Canon USA introductory video on both cameras. While it still requires menu activation (unknown if it can be assigned to a button), the files now seem to be saved normally, rather than in a proprietary format.
p.2 #10 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
lighthound wrote:
How is this not competitive?
A1 $6500
Z9 $5500
R5II $4300
The R5II is not competing with the Z9. It's competing with the Z8 (which also just happens to be 99% of a Z9 in a smaller body). And the Z8 retails for $3,500 right now (though may go back up to $3,999 eventually, though Nikon's 'sales' tend to be for most of the year.)
The R5 II does have some advantages over the Z8 (the AF is probably a little better, but the Z8's is outstanding), 30fps RAW vs 20fps RAW, for those who need that extra burst rate. Z8, however, has a much faster reading sensor, so at those fast burst rates, the Z8 will have a rolling shutter advantage that may be minimal (birds in flight) or fairly significant (fast ball sports).
p.2 #11 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
jayviary wrote:
The R5 mark ii has RAW precapture per the Canon USA introductory video on both cameras. While it still requires menu activation (unknown if it can be assigned to a button), the files now seem to be saved normally, rather than in a proprietary format.
Thanks....I've found that confirmed in a few more articles now so that is good. I'll go edit my first reply as the DPReview spec list is a misprint.
Files are saved normally!! Only downside may be that is a menu dive to turn on/off but we shall see as more in depth reviews from wildlife shooters are completed.
p.2 #12 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
robert_in_ca wrote:
To make the claim the AF system of the R5ii is vastly superior than the Z9/Z8 is a stretch.
How is it a stretch?
The old R5's AF is viewed by many to be superior in ways to the Z8 & even Z9. And now the R5II inherited the R3 AF system but on steroids, which tells me it is in fact vastly superior.
Time will tell the truth. Let's see how it all falls out after real non-bias photogs put out their reviews.
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p.2 #14 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
lighthound wrote:
How is it a stretch?
The old R5's AF is viewed by many to be superior in ways to the Z8 & even Z9. And now the R5II inherited the R3 AF system but on steroids, which tells me it is in fact vastly superior.
Time will tell the truth. Let's see how it all falls out after real non-bias photogs put out their reviews.
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I'll be waiting for Jan to review it...so far he doesn't have one and only getting info from his friends who do have one. But shouldn't be long now. Jan will tell it like it is as he has tons of experience with Z8/Z9 and A1 and uses R5/R3 as his main cameras when not reviewing the other brands.
I don't think there is anyone else out there that will review it without bias that I can think of. Steve Perry could but I don't think he is doing much Canon stuff anymore...he has wised up and is only shooting Nikon and Sony now. Although his wife may still be shooting R5...not sure??
Of course I will review it with all my biases in full force....
p.2 #15 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
lighthound wrote:
How is this not competitive?
A1 $6500
Z9 $5500
R5II $4300
The A1 and Z9 are competitors to the R1. Z8 is the R5II competitor. R5II has the better EVF and AF system, Z8 has the faster sensor readout and no need for a mechanical shutter. The tipping point for me will be the sensor DR and high ISO performance of the R5II. If it comes in high enough above the Z8, then along with the EVF and AF might be worth the price difference. If it's the same or less, it changes the equation for me.
p.2 #18 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
Raw pre-capture is probably the main thing this has over the Z8.
There are other, incrementally better things, but I don’t know if they are worth almost a grand more.
I do like Canon’s second gen AF system (R3/R6ii/R8) more than the competitors (albeit with very limited exposure), but that has more to do with implementation and usability rather than strict performance.
I’ll wait for more technical reviews and experiences to show up at this point.
p.2 #19 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications
wind30 wrote:
Dpreview says max 1/32000 in es
Canon europe says 1/8000
Type
Electronically-controlled focal-plane shutter and Electronic shutter function on sensor
Speed
30-1/8000 sec (1/2 or 1/3 stop increments), Bulb (Total shutter speed range. Available range varies by shooting mode)
Shutter Release
Soft touch electromagnetic release
