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p.16 #1 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications


Can anyone here calculate what the R5II buffer will be with cRAW, 14bit, 30fps with and without pre-capture? Will it be better than the R5 with cRAW, 12bit, 20fps? I would love to see the numbers if they are out there.


Jul 23, 2024 at 06:39 PM
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p.16 #2 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications


Canon EOS R5 Mark II Advanced User Guide - https://cam.start.canon/en/C017/manual/c017.pdf


Jul 23, 2024 at 07:20 PM
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p.16 #3 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications


170 for cRAW. 200 for jpeg, maybe a faster card will get more frames.


Jul 23, 2024 at 09:09 PM
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p.16 #4 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications


Any thoughts of whether the lens drive will be faster on the R5ii than the R5? My RF superteles focus notably faster on my R3 than my R5. I’m hopeful that the increased voltage on the new batteries of the R5ii will allow for an improvement here.


Jul 23, 2024 at 09:12 PM
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p.16 #5 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications


https://m.dpreview.com/articles/3364448295/canon-eos-r5-ii-for-photographers-what-you-need-to-know

I don't even know what to believe anymore. DPR is now reporting that the R5 II actually drops down to 12-bit when shooting videos. I guess other sources, including Petapixel, is wrong that the R5 II records 14-bit videos?



Jul 23, 2024 at 09:29 PM
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lsquare wrote:
https://m.dpreview.com/articles/3364448295/canon-eos-r5-ii-for-photographers-what-you-need-to-know

I don't even know what to believe anymore. DPR is now reporting that the R5 II actually drops down to 12-bit when shooting videos. I guess other sources, including Petapixel, is wrong that the R5 II records 14-bit videos?


Don't basically all cameras drop to 12-bit for video?

If you are shooting Log, it is 10-bit anyway, but it nevertheless encodes the full sensor output.



Jul 23, 2024 at 09:58 PM
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Scott Stoness wrote:
I am going to touch and feel the r5 and r3 tomorrow - canon is visiting - I will be testing the buffer. Mabye that will get me excited enough.


R5 or R5II? If the latter, I will be interested in your impressions.



Jul 24, 2024 at 12:53 AM
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garyvot wrote:
Don't basically all cameras drop to 12-bit for video?

If you are shooting Log, it is 10-bit anyway, but it nevertheless encodes the full sensor output.


Yes, but the early previews in the media suggested that it record 14-bit videos!



Jul 24, 2024 at 03:57 AM
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lsquare wrote:
Yes, but the early previews in the media suggested that it record 14-bit videos!


Is a pointless discussion the bit levels as 12-bit is more than enough to fit 16+ stop of DR, taking in to account that R5 and R5c are on the weak side of DR, what does it really matter is if the R5 II has better video DR than the previous models and ideally closing in to the Cxxx series and of course how fast is the read out.



Jul 24, 2024 at 06:53 AM
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KINGOFKNGS wrote:
Any thoughts of whether the lens drive will be faster on the R5ii than the R5? My RF superteles focus notably faster on my R3 than my R5. I’m hopeful that the increased voltage on the new batteries of the R5ii will allow for an improvement here.


The new batteries have increased amperage, but practically speaking no increased voltage. The higher voltage numbers you see written on the batteries are basically a rounding error during use.
So I sadly don't think we'll see the extra oomph the R3 and R1 will give to the focus motors on the R5II.



Jul 24, 2024 at 08:47 AM
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molson wrote:
The facts don't support your opinion - unless you think Canon is using a Sony sensor in the R5.

https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%20R5,Sony%20ILCE-1,Sony%20ILCE-7RM5

You do Know that triangel down is noisereduction applied?
I have the Canon R5 and i’m not unhappy with the DR but it isn’t class leading. It is good .
About the same shadowrecovery as my Sony A6700



Jul 24, 2024 at 08:50 AM
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biggles2002 wrote:
You do Know that triangel down is noisereduction applied?
I have the Canon R5 and i’m not unhappy with the DR but it isn’t class leading. It is good .
About the same shadowrecovery as my Sony A6700


Lifting shadows by more than a stop or two generally results in odd, over-processed looking images, IMO. It's one reason why I still use some subtle daylight fill flash, when possible.

Give me Kodachrome. Expose for the highlights and let the shadows fall where they may!



Jul 24, 2024 at 10:19 AM
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p.16 #13 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications


rscheffler wrote:
R5 or R5II? If the latter, I will be interested in your impressions.


I am scheduled to touch and feel and test and ask about R5ii at 1pm.

I will be asking/testing:
1) Can I set to 15 or 12 fps electronic and get 300 pictures in a row without stuttering.
2) When you are on pre capture - set to 12fps do you get 15 or 6 frames - 1/2 s or 15 is setting?
3) Does the blur detection mode work with raw
4) Does the camera take advantage of faster cfexpress cards
5) How well does it work with my angle bird 512 gb card vs 128gb Black.
6) How does the dynamic range of stills at iso 100 compare to r5
7) What does not work with my best older batteries
8) Does it do better or same with my ef 200-400
9) A/f ibis same or better on my 200-800

These are my make or break items.

I am just back from shooting bears last night where a pre capture and better buffer would have avoided some lost images only existing in my mind because I filled the buffer at 20fps and had to wait 3s.




  Canon EOS R5    RF200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM lens    800mm    f/9.0    1/2000s    12800 ISO    -0.7 EV  




Jul 24, 2024 at 10:39 AM
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p.16 #14 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications


Looking briefly through the manual, it seems to me that you can assign a button to change the electronic shutter drive speed, where if you are shooting at 12fps, you can assign a button that will change the speed to 30fps while you hold it down. I may be wrong on that, but that's my interpretation. I'm not seeing anything that leads me to believe that the precapture function can be assigned to a button. So you would have to dive into the menu to turn that on and off. Is anyone seeing anything that leads them to believe precapture can be assigned to a custom button? Seems like a pretty big omission to leave that functionality out.


Jul 24, 2024 at 10:57 AM
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Scott Stoness wrote:
I am scheduled to touch and feel and test and ask about R5ii at 1pm.

I will be asking/testing:
1) Can I set to 15 or 12 fps electronic and get 300 pictures in a row without stuttering.
2) When you are on pre capture - set to 12fps do you get 15 or 6 frames - 1/2 s or 15 is setting?
3) Does the blur detection mode work with raw
4) Does the camera take advantage of faster cfexpress cards
5) How well does it work with my angle bird 512 gb card vs 128gb Black.
6) How does the dynamic range of
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Pre-capture is based on .5 sec @ 30fps. So if you're shooting slower, then your time increases.

You can remove #3 from your list. It only works on Jpegs or HIEF files and designed mainly for well lit human faces. Page 685-686 in the advanced user manual.



Jul 24, 2024 at 11:22 AM
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Scott Stoness wrote:
I am scheduled to touch and feel and test and ask about R5ii at 1pm.

I will be asking/testing:

3) Does the blur detection mode work with raw


I read the manual and the blur detection feature is unfortunately jpeg only. And it is not available if you shoot RAW+jpeg to the same card. You would have to shoot RAW and jpeg to separate cards and review images from the jpeg card. According to the manual the RAW+jpeg option doesn't work because the camera will playback the RAW images.

This is somewhat disappointing. There are also a host of settings that need to be used/active for this feature to work and apparently it's only currently designed to evaluate sharpness of people/faces. Apparently it may have difficulty with side angles (people looking away), facial coverings/obstructions, etc. It sounds more and more like outside of traditional portraiture (where mirrorless AF rarely fails), it may have limited usefulness because it may not evaluate all eligible images, thus potentially making it easier to inadvertently skip otherwise good images because the feature did not evaluate those.



Jul 24, 2024 at 03:40 PM
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action99 wrote:
Is a pointless discussion the bit levels as 12-bit is more than enough to fit 16+ stop of DR, taking in to account that R5 and R5c are on the weak side of DR, what does it really matter is if the R5 II has better video DR than the previous models and ideally closing in to the Cxxx series and of course how fast is the read out.


I'm just staying that is what was reported. 14-bit is fake news.



Jul 24, 2024 at 04:20 PM
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Scott Stoness wrote:
I am scheduled to touch and feel and test and ask about R5ii at 1pm.

I will be asking/testing:
1) Can I set to 15 or 12 fps electronic and get 300 pictures in a row without stuttering.
2) When you are on pre capture - set to 12fps do you get 15 or 6 frames - 1/2 s or 15 is setting?
3) Does the blur detection mode work with raw
4) Does the camera take advantage of faster cfexpress cards
5) How well does it work with my angle bird 512 gb card vs 128gb Black.
6) How does the dynamic range of
...Show more

Maybe you can ask about the supposedly 14-bit video rumor.



Jul 24, 2024 at 04:22 PM
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lsquare wrote:
Just wondering if anyone here took a hard look at the Panasonic GH7's video capabilities and compared it to the R5 II? The GH7 can shoot in ProRes RAW, support 32-bit audio, and I think real-time LUT support. Any advantages or disadvantages for the R5 II compared to the GH7?


Anyone here know?



Jul 24, 2024 at 04:22 PM
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is there anywhere you can download the manual as a pdf. All I'm finding is a reader on the web site but no download option.


Jul 24, 2024 at 04:41 PM
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