Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
p.8 #1Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Ayoul wrote:
If you don't see the benefit of this camera it is not for you, it is that simple. It is not a camera for the masses but for some niche applications this is basically a game changer and easily worth the price.People are complaining that Sony has ignored a large market segment who wants an updated stacked sensor camera at usd4k price point.Here in EU, you can already find plenty of A9II at 3000 €, and the first A9 between 1700 € - 2200 €
The first A9, that I use on a regular basis for my job, is still the best bang for the buck camera that I ever owned.
UPDATED camera. I have the a9 but I won’t call it updated. It is missing so many simple things, like proper video codecs, updated af, better ibis, better lcd/evf, menu system, focus map, breathing compensation, etc, etc, etc.
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Certainly created for pro sports shooters but have those guys & gals been missing shots? I don’t think. Over 6K (almost 9k to me before taxes) seems ridiculous. The A9 and A9II can still freeze Olympic action just fine. Oh and the A1 and hell even the A7IV could do the job. I would feel like a sucker buying a camera this pricey.The first A9, that I use on a regular basis for my job, is still the best bang for the buck camera that I ever owned.
UPDATED camera. I have the a9 but I won’t call it updated. It is missing so many simple things, like proper video codecs, updated af, better ibis, better lcd/evf, menu system, focus map, breathing compensation, etc, etc, etc.
Nov 09, 2023 at 06:19 AM
p.8 #2Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
UPDATED camera. I have the a9 but I won’t call it updated. It is missing so many simple things, like proper video codecs, updated af, better ibis, better lcd/evf, menu system, focus map, breathing compensation, etc, etc, etc.
I know what you mean, but I guess that Sony simply expects to make a greater amount of money by selling this new technology instead of just updating the A9II...
Nov 09, 2023 at 06:45 AM
p.8 #3Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Folks who try to publicly shame others are the ones with deep, dark secrets to hide.
I bet most of us would be horrified if a hacker got hold of our google search histories.
I respect Matt G for being so open about his so-called-perversions.
Whatever he's into, he's not ashamed of it, so kudos to him.
It's the "oh-I-am-so-rich-and-important-and-fabulous" kind that I find repulsive.
I bet most of us would be horrified if a hacker got hold of our google search histories.
I respect Matt G for being so open about his so-called-perversions.
Whatever he's into, he's not ashamed of it, so kudos to him.
It's the "oh-I-am-so-rich-and-important-and-fabulous" kind that I find repulsive.
Nov 09, 2023 at 10:48 AM
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p.8 #4Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
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There is a reason I don't subscribe to his channel... (apart from I don't want to view nude women tied up in ropes being photographed in his apartment all day)
And that's what he unabashedly admits to publically.
I've always gotten THAT gut feeling about the guy, and his recent content only cemented it. Ooogy dude.
There is a reason I don't subscribe to his channel... (apart from I don't want to view nude women tied up in ropes being photographed in his apartment all day)
And that's what he unabashedly admits to publically.
I've always gotten THAT gut feeling about the guy, and his recent content only cemented it. Ooogy dude.
Nov 09, 2023 at 10:52 AM
p.8 #5Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
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I can't wait to see how Thom Hogan spins how this new technology is inferior to Nikon... probably along the same lines as the Sony AF system being too easy to use and Nikon is superior because it makes you really work hard to get comparable results.Perverted Nikon guy, and Thom Hogan can't hold a candle when it comes to lying and bashing to Matt Irwin. Maybe the most dishonest guy in this business in my opinion.
He was more green with envy than his hat in this one.
Watched a few minutes and turned it off , don't know this bloke tbh but what a complete irritant
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But poor Matt cannot help to deliver underhanded acknowledgments or compliments towards Sony.He was more green with envy than his hat in this one.
Watched a few minutes and turned it off , don't know this bloke tbh but what a complete irritant
Nov 09, 2023 at 11:35 AM
p.8 #6Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
RoamingScott wrote:
120fps is great for certain moments in sports like trying to capture bat on ball, racket on ball, ball leaving fingers of pitcher, football on fingertips of receiver, ball off kickers foot, etc. There are also great uses for it in all of action sports, racing, equestrian, etc. If's for those very hard to capture split second moments that will now be easy to capture.In theory yes, but who has the time to go through that many images before sending them out on the wire? I doubt the exact position of the ball is going to increase sales, at least not at a rate of 120 fps.
(Speaking as a former wire service reporter, print and not photography: you want to be first and accurate. Unless, I guess, the photo blows all others out of the water).AI could handily replace a wire editor/culler if you feed it information on what an ideal shot is among a batch. Just wait...
while not exactly there yet, I did use Aftershoot AI culling to get rid of some 380,000 photos I'd taken in the last 2 years that I never culled before.
It had about 85% success rate of choosing to keep the photos I thought were best.
Good enough that I could go through a batch once, edit the best ones, and then have it scrap 80%+ of the remaining ones and I wouldn't feel bad about it
culling 380,000 photos took less than a day of computing time, and about 20 minutes of my actual review time
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As a canon/nikon shooter, this new body sounds pretty fantastic....except for the resolution. But as this new tech develops I'm sure sony will put it into a higher resolution body. Some of the specs are overkill for most people (120fps comes to mind), but honestly it is nice to have those specs for those not common times when they can add to your shooting. I will be very curious to see what Canon and Nikon are doing in terms of global shutter tech....Lots of talk about the upcoming (some day) Canon flagship having it, not sure about Nikon yet. But basically this is all good news for consumers as the big three keep pushing each other to do more.(Speaking as a former wire service reporter, print and not photography: you want to be first and accurate. Unless, I guess, the photo blows all others out of the water).
while not exactly there yet, I did use Aftershoot AI culling to get rid of some 380,000 photos I'd taken in the last 2 years that I never culled before.
It had about 85% success rate of choosing to keep the photos I thought were best.
Good enough that I could go through a batch once, edit the best ones, and then have it scrap 80%+ of the remaining ones and I wouldn't feel bad about it
culling 380,000 photos took less than a day of computing time, and about 20 minutes of my actual review time
Nov 09, 2023 at 12:45 PM
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p.8 #7Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
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120fps is great for certain moments in sports like trying to capture bat on ball, racket on ball, ball leaving fingers of pitcher, football on fingertips of receiver, ball off kickers foot, etc. There are also great uses for it in all of action sports, racing, equestrian, etc. If's for those very hard to capture split second moments that will now be easy to capture.In theory yes, but who has the time to go through that many images before sending them out on the wire? I doubt the exact position of the ball is going to increase sales, at least not at a rate of 120 fps.
(Speaking as a former wire service reporter, print and not photography: you want to be first and accurate. Unless, I guess, the photo blows all others out of the water).AI could handily replace a wire editor/culler if you feed it information on what an ideal shot is among a batch. Just wait...while not exactly there yet, I did use Aftershoot AI culling to get rid of some 380,000 photos I'd taken in the last 2 years that I never culled before.
It had about 85% success rate of choosing to keep the photos I thought were best.
Good enough that I could go through a batch once, edit the best ones, and then have it scrap 80%+ of the remaining ones and I wouldn't feel bad about it
culling 380,000 photos took less than a day of computing time, and about 20 minutes of my actual review time
Now imagine what AI will do with another year of training. I'm telling you, it's around the corner. Cool details, thanks for sharing.
RoamingScott wrote
johnvanr wrote
artsupreme wrote
cohenfive wrote
As a canon/nikon shooter, this new body sounds pretty fantastic....except for the resolution. But as this new tech develops I'm sure sony will put it into a higher resolution body. Some of the specs are overkill for most people (120fps comes to mind), but honestly it is nice to have those specs for those not common times when they can add to your shooting. I will be very curious to see what Canon and Nikon are doing in terms of global shutter tech....Lots of talk about the upcoming (some day) Canon flagship having it, not sure about Nikon yet. But basically this is all good news for consumers as the big three keep pushing each other to do more.(Speaking as a former wire service reporter, print and not photography: you want to be first and accurate. Unless, I guess, the photo blows all others out of the water).
It had about 85% success rate of choosing to keep the photos I thought were best.
Good enough that I could go through a batch once, edit the best ones, and then have it scrap 80%+ of the remaining ones and I wouldn't feel bad about it
culling 380,000 photos took less than a day of computing time, and about 20 minutes of my actual review time
Now imagine what AI will do with another year of training. I'm telling you, it's around the corner. Cool details, thanks for sharing.
Nov 09, 2023 at 01:06 PM
p.8 #8Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
raminolta wrote:
Why not the A1?Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms (...Show more →
The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.
berimbolo wrote
raminolta wrote
wind30 wrote
Dave Sanders wrote
wind30 wrote
… I am going to buy a z8 tmr…. Sony really has lost touch with what people want.PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms (...Show more →
The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.
Nov 09, 2023 at 02:21 PM
p.8 #9Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
CATProductions wrote:
Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.
Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.
raminolta wrote
berimbolo wrote
raminolta wrote
wind30 wrote
Dave Sanders wrote
Why not the A1?PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.
Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.
Nov 09, 2023 at 03:28 PM
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p.8 #10Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
raminolta wrote:
A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.
I think the 600F4 and 400F2.8 from Nikon are best in class. The 800PF is also a cool lens. I personally don't care at all for the 600PF or 400PF, but some people love them. I think it is fair to say that the NIkon telephoto lineup is the best amongst the big 3.
CATProductions wrote
raminolta wrote
berimbolo wrote
raminolta wrote
wind30 wrote
Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.
I think the 600F4 and 400F2.8 from Nikon are best in class. The 800PF is also a cool lens. I personally don't care at all for the 600PF or 400PF, but some people love them. I think it is fair to say that the NIkon telephoto lineup is the best amongst the big 3.
Nov 09, 2023 at 03:30 PM
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p.8 #11Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
I got to hold and shoot a little bit with the new Sony 300 2.8 today. Wow is that thing amazingly small and light. Don't think I have any need for that lens but it is just unreal what they have done with it. I held it side by side with the 400 2.8 and one feels like a tank, the other like holding a 500pf type lens. If you need this lens you will be thrilled. It was indoors at a Sony event and I did not bother to take any real photos. They did let me attach it to my A1 and shoot with my card but I don't think those shots will mean anything to anyone.
Nov 09, 2023 at 03:59 PM
p.8 #12Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
I got a chance to try the a9III today at ProFusion in Toronto. The only thing I am comfortable commenting on is the grip. I've never had a problem with Sony E mount full frame camera design. That said the new grip was really good in hand. The custom buttons on top are more prominent as well. Without the grip attached my pinky finger would still go under the camera. If that is something that bothers you I think you'd want the grip or some sort of bottom plate. It's an impressive camera far beyond my needs and budget.
Nov 09, 2023 at 04:16 PM
p.8 #13Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
berimbolo wrote:
The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.I think the 600F4 and 400F2.8 from Nikon are best in class. The 800PF is also a cool lens. I personally don't care at all for the 600PF or 400PF, but some people love them. I think it is fair to say that the NIkon telephoto lineup is the best amongst the big 3.
I definitely agree. Plus, you have all the additional exotic F mount telephoto lenses that are still superb and arguably better optically even today compared to Sony.
raminolta wrote
CATProductions wrote
raminolta wrote
berimbolo wrote
raminolta wrote
A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.
I definitely agree. Plus, you have all the additional exotic F mount telephoto lenses that are still superb and arguably better optically even today compared to Sony.
Nov 09, 2023 at 04:28 PM
p.8 #14Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
raminolta wrote:
A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.
Send your list of Sony telephoto lenses and we can compare.
CATProductions wrote
raminolta wrote
berimbolo wrote
raminolta wrote
wind30 wrote
Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.
Send your list of Sony telephoto lenses and we can compare.
Nov 09, 2023 at 04:32 PM
p.8 #15Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
CATProductions wrote:
The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.Send your list of Sony telephoto lenses and we can compare.
Send me your side by side comparison shots and then we can compare.
raminolta wrote
CATProductions wrote
raminolta wrote
berimbolo wrote
raminolta wrote
A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.
Send me your side by side comparison shots and then we can compare.
Nov 09, 2023 at 04:41 PM
p.8 #16Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
berimbolo wrote:
The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.I think the 600F4 and 400F2.8 from Nikon are best in class. The 800PF is also a cool lens. I personally don't care at all for the 600PF or 400PF, but some people love them. I think it is fair to say that the NIkon telephoto lineup is the best amongst the big 3.
You THINK but you don't have any proof. You think what you WANT.
By the way, I am not saying the Nikon lenses are bad. I am sure they must be great lenses. I just don't believe in anecdotal statements, certainly not from a stranger on a forum who has yet to offer any evidence whatsoever.
raminolta wrote
CATProductions wrote
raminolta wrote
berimbolo wrote
raminolta wrote
A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.
You THINK but you don't have any proof. You think what you WANT.
By the way, I am not saying the Nikon lenses are bad. I am sure they must be great lenses. I just don't believe in anecdotal statements, certainly not from a stranger on a forum who has yet to offer any evidence whatsoever.
Nov 09, 2023 at 04:45 PM
p.8 #17Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
CATProductions wrote:
I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.I think the 600F4 and 400F2.8 from Nikon are best in class. The 800PF is also a cool lens. I personally don't care at all for the 600PF or 400PF, but some people love them. I think it is fair to say that the NIkon telephoto lineup is the best amongst the big 3.I definitely agree. Plus, you have all the additional exotic F mount telephoto lenses that are still superb and arguably better optically even today compared to Sony.
I definitely don't agree with people who believe in UFO's until they provide undeniable proof.
berimbolo wrote
raminolta wrote
CATProductions wrote
raminolta wrote
berimbolo wrote
The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.
I definitely don't agree with people who believe in UFO's until they provide undeniable proof.
Nov 09, 2023 at 04:48 PM
p.8 #18Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
The BS is that you care what people say on internet forums. People you don’t even know! Move on man. Do some jumping jacks.
raminolta wrote:
A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.
raminolta wrote:
CATProductions wrote
raminolta wrote
berimbolo wrote
raminolta wrote
wind30 wrote
Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.
Nov 09, 2023 at 04:51 PM
p.8 #19Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Ashley, the 400 4.5 is not PF, making it quite an achievement for it's size.
berimbolo wrote:
I think the 600F4 and 400F2.8 from Nikon are best in class. The 800PF is also a cool lens. I personally don't care at all for the 600PF or 400PF, but some people love them. I think it is fair to say that the NIkon telephoto lineup is the best amongst the big 3.
berimbolo wrote:
I think the 600F4 and 400F2.8 from Nikon are best in class. The 800PF is also a cool lens. I personally don't care at all for the 600PF or 400PF, but some people love them. I think it is fair to say that the NIkon telephoto lineup is the best amongst the big 3.
Nov 09, 2023 at 05:04 PM
p.8 #20Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
CATProductions wrote:
PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.Send your list of Sony telephoto lenses and we can compare.Send me your side by side comparison shots and then we can compare.I was replying to YOUR idiotic comments suggesting that Sony somehow has a better telephoto lens lineup compared with Nikon. So you can’t backup what you say? Maybe you shouldn’t make stupid comments when you don’t have all the facts?
AFAIK, nobody in this thread said Sony tele lenses are better. Neither did I. YOU claimed Nikon tele lenses smoke Sony tele lenses So the burden of proof is on YOU.
I admit I was tempted to return your insults. But then I thought this poor guy is so fragile, just asking him to stop making unsubstantiated claims hurt his ego and triggered his anger. That's pathetic. One more chance: back up your claim if you can. Or else, you might want to go back to your Nikon forum where you will find some like-minded FANBOYS who want to cheer for these five letters: N O K I N.
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raminolta wrote
CATProductions wrote
raminolta wrote
CATProductions wrote
raminolta wrote
I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.
AFAIK, nobody in this thread said Sony tele lenses are better. Neither did I. YOU claimed Nikon tele lenses smoke Sony tele lenses So the burden of proof is on YOU.
I admit I was tempted to return your insults. But then I thought this poor guy is so fragile, just asking him to stop making unsubstantiated claims hurt his ego and triggered his anger. That's pathetic. One more chance: back up your claim if you can. Or else, you might want to go back to your Nikon forum where you will find some like-minded FANBOYS who want to cheer for these five letters: N O K I N.
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Nov 09, 2023 at 07:13 PM