Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
p.14 #1Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
duncang wrote:
I hear the some European customers may already have received theirs.
Regards,
BernardJust picked one up, an yes I am in Europe. I see shops have plenty in stock, so they seem to be a slow seller compared to the A1. That one was sold out of a long time IIRC.Hey,
could you answer the ultimate question and tell us if there's any resolution drop in EVF when actively focusing (AF-C)
?Testing right now I see the same behavior as the A1 except that the A1 flickers for a frame or two when i half press for focusing while the A9 doesn't.
I also use DRO 5 to better see details in shadows while shooting, like I can with an OVF. For some reason both cameras turn this off in the EVF while shooting bursts, which dims the image.If you have a Sony GN60 see whether you can shoot at 120fps with flash sync at 1/4000s. There is a firmware update for the flash.
Sorry got no flashes, I only shoot in natural light.
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bernardl wrote
Has someone already received their a9III?I hear the some European customers may already have received theirs.
Regards,
Bernard
could you answer the ultimate question and tell us if there's any resolution drop in EVF when actively focusing (AF-C)
?I also use DRO 5 to better see details in shadows while shooting, like I can with an OVF. For some reason both cameras turn this off in the EVF while shooting bursts, which dims the image.
Sorry got no flashes, I only shoot in natural light.
Jan 23, 2024 at 05:38 AM
p.14 #3Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
snapsy wrote:
Good discussion of the flash advantages and tradeoffs in this video. Thanks
Good discussion of the flash advantages and tradeoffs in this video. Thanks
Jan 28, 2024 at 03:27 AM
p.14 #4Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Folks in Hong Kong got their 300 GM already. He said he would do a 300 GM+2X TC vs 200-600 comparison. I believe Mark smith said he was going to do the same too. If the 300 GM+2X TC is demonstrably sharper than the 200-600 at 600mm, I may buy one.
Jan 28, 2024 at 08:27 AM
p.14 #5Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Very rare chance that you will see a visible difference between 200-600 and 300+2x. I think 200-600 will be SLIGHTLY better in sharpness and AF. But 200-600 is not a 600mm lens. So 300+2x will have higher magnification. I'm curious how 300+1.4x compares to 200-600 @ 420mm. If the AF and sharpness is way better, the combo can be the best BIF combo (weight, size AF speed etc). I don't have much hope though.
Douglas L wrote:
Folks in Hong Kong got their 300 GM already. He said he would do a 300 GM+2X TC vs 200-600 comparison. I believe Mark smith said he was going to do the same too. If the 300 GM+2X TC is demonstrably sharper than the 200-600 at 600mm, I may buy one.
Douglas L wrote:
Folks in Hong Kong got their 300 GM already. He said he would do a 300 GM+2X TC vs 200-600 comparison. I believe Mark smith said he was going to do the same too. If the 300 GM+2X TC is demonstrably sharper than the 200-600 at 600mm, I may buy one.
Jan 28, 2024 at 09:42 AM
p.14 #6Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Jemini wrote:
Very rare chance that you will see a visible difference between 200-600 and 300+2x. I think 200-600 will be SLIGHTLY better in sharpness and AF. But 200-600 is not a 600mm lens. So 300+2x will have higher magnification. I'm curious how 300+1.4x compares to 200-600 @ 420mm. If the AF and sharpness is way better, the combo can be the best BIF combo (weight, size AF speed etc). I don't have much hope though.
From what we have seen so far 300+1.4x seems be superior to the 100-400GM (or any 100-400), at ~400mm. But I don't expect either to see a difference in favor of the 300+2x , when compared to the 200-600 (at 600mm)
What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?
Very rare chance that you will see a visible difference between 200-600 and 300+2x. I think 200-600 will be SLIGHTLY better in sharpness and AF. But 200-600 is not a 600mm lens. So 300+2x will have higher magnification. I'm curious how 300+1.4x compares to 200-600 @ 420mm. If the AF and sharpness is way better, the combo can be the best BIF combo (weight, size AF speed etc). I don't have much hope though.
From what we have seen so far 300+1.4x seems be superior to the 100-400GM (or any 100-400), at ~400mm. But I don't expect either to see a difference in favor of the 300+2x , when compared to the 200-600 (at 600mm)
What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?
Jan 28, 2024 at 10:57 AM
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p.14 #7Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Fboss wrote:
From what we have seen so far 300+1.4x seems be superior to the 100-400GM (or any 100-400), at ~400mm. But I don't expect either to see a difference in favor of the 300+2x , when compared to the 200-600 (at 600mm)
What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?
At MFD, the 200-600 is closer to 560mm at the long end.
Jemini wrote
Very rare chance that you will see a visible difference between 200-600 and 300+2x. I think 200-600 will be SLIGHTLY better in sharpness and AF. But 200-600 is not a 600mm lens. So 300+2x will have higher magnification. I'm curious how 300+1.4x compares to 200-600 @ 420mm. If the AF and sharpness is way better, the combo can be the best BIF combo (weight, size AF speed etc). I don't have much hope though.What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?
At MFD, the 200-600 is closer to 560mm at the long end.
Jan 28, 2024 at 11:10 AM
p.14 #8Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
I suspect MFD shooting is not a high percentage use generally of the 200-600.
Jan 28, 2024 at 11:19 AM
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p.14 #9Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
tsdevine wrote:
I suspect MFD shooting is not a high percentage use generally of the 200-600.
Yeah. Also only a 7% difference in focal length.
I suspect MFD shooting is not a high percentage use generally of the 200-600.
Yeah. Also only a 7% difference in focal length.
Jan 28, 2024 at 11:20 AM
p.14 #10Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
200-600 is close to 550mm at MFD. At normal working distance (around 20-30 ft, it may be around 575mm). This not surprising in zoom world.
Fboss wrote:
From what we have seen so far 300+1.4x seems be superior to the 100-400GM (or any 100-400), at ~400mm. But I don't expect either to see a difference in favor of the 300+2x , when compared to the 200-600 (at 600mm)
What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?
Fboss wrote:
Jemini wrote
Very rare chance that you will see a visible difference between 200-600 and 300+2x. I think 200-600 will be SLIGHTLY better in sharpness and AF. But 200-600 is not a 600mm lens. So 300+2x will have higher magnification. I'm curious how 300+1.4x compares to 200-600 @ 420mm. If the AF and sharpness is way better, the combo can be the best BIF combo (weight, size AF speed etc). I don't have much hope though.What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?
Jan 28, 2024 at 11:22 AM
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p.14 #11Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Jemini wrote:
200-600 is close to 550mm at MFD. At normal working distance (around 20-30 ft, it may be around 575mm). This not surprising in zoom world.
From what we have seen so far 300+1.4x seems be superior to the 100-400GM (or any 100-400), at ~400mm. But I don't expect either to see a difference in favor of the 300+2x , when compared to the 200-600 (at 600mm)
What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?
I knew about the MFD. But at normal distance, I did some comparisons with the Tamron 150-500 at 500mm and needed to zoom by ~ 20% the images from the Tamron to get the same size as the Sony at 600mm. So thought it was an actual ~600mm.
200-600 is close to 550mm at MFD. At normal working distance (around 20-30 ft, it may be around 575mm). This not surprising in zoom world.
Fboss wrote
Jemini wrote
Very rare chance that you will see a visible difference between 200-600 and 300+2x. I think 200-600 will be SLIGHTLY better in sharpness and AF. But 200-600 is not a 600mm lens. So 300+2x will have higher magnification. I'm curious how 300+1.4x compares to 200-600 @ 420mm. If the AF and sharpness is way better, the combo can be the best BIF combo (weight, size AF speed etc). I don't have much hope though.What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?
I knew about the MFD. But at normal distance, I did some comparisons with the Tamron 150-500 at 500mm and needed to zoom by ~ 20% the images from the Tamron to get the same size as the Sony at 600mm. So thought it was an actual ~600mm.
Jan 28, 2024 at 12:13 PM
p.14 #12Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Looks like February 8 in the US. I have one ordered in advance and I've waffled over it due to the 24mp but when I went back and looked through my A9ii photos I had a ton that were just fine with the lower pixel count. I think this will end up being my specialist camera for BIF and super fast birds like hummingbirds, where every frame counts and speed really matters. A bit of a niche, yes, but so is bird photography in general. 
Jan 28, 2024 at 12:53 PM
p.14 #13Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Not being a bird shooter or wild life per say I have use for the A9III with LED, Flash but the bigger downfall is the 24mpx BUT BUT BUT I could always add a 1.4 TC to the 70-200 and still get 300mm and don't use crop mode . Today with the A7RV it's 21mpx in crop mode. So I could cheat here. I think I will wait till after next show I need to shoot in July but I will rent one for the show. Love the idea of this cam although 120FPS I will most likely never use.
Jan 28, 2024 at 01:18 PM
p.14 #14Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Fboss wrote:
From what we have seen so far 300+1.4x seems be superior to the 100-400GM (or any 100-400), at ~400mm. But I don't expect either to see a difference in favor of the 300+2x , when compared to the 200-600 (at 600mm)
What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?I knew about the MFD. But at normal distance, I did some comparisons with the Tamron 150-500 at 500mm and needed to zoom by ~ 20% the images from the Tamron to get the same size as the Sony at 600mm. So thought it was an actual ~600mm.
I'm not sure another zoom is the right scale. Tamron 150-500 could be less than 500mm at long end
Here's a picture taken at 13' using Nikon 400mm prime+1.4TC and 200-600 @600mm. Both taken on Z8. Just resized to 1000 pixels wide. Top is taken with 400mm+TC (560mm) and bottom with 200-600. So at 13' it's not even 560mm. For me 200-600 is very sharp very fast focusing (same speed as Nikon 400/4.5 as per Steve Perry) 225-550mm lens. It's an amazing value. I just wish if there was a 500/4 lens with same weight (or around 5LB). Except the aperture I have no complaints about this lens
Jemini wrote
200-600 is close to 550mm at MFD. At normal working distance (around 20-30 ft, it may be around 575mm). This not surprising in zoom world.Fboss wrote
Jemini wrote
Very rare chance that you will see a visible difference between 200-600 and 300+2x. I think 200-600 will be SLIGHTLY better in sharpness and AF. But 200-600 is not a 600mm lens. So 300+2x will have higher magnification. I'm curious how 300+1.4x compares to 200-600 @ 420mm. If the AF and sharpness is way better, the combo can be the best BIF combo (weight, size AF speed etc). I don't have much hope though.What do you mean by "200-600 is not a 600mm lens" ?
I'm not sure another zoom is the right scale. Tamron 150-500 could be less than 500mm at long end
Here's a picture taken at 13' using Nikon 400mm prime+1.4TC and 200-600 @600mm. Both taken on Z8. Just resized to 1000 pixels wide. Top is taken with 400mm+TC (560mm) and bottom with 200-600. So at 13' it's not even 560mm. For me 200-600 is very sharp very fast focusing (same speed as Nikon 400/4.5 as per Steve Perry) 225-550mm lens. It's an amazing value. I just wish if there was a 500/4 lens with same weight (or around 5LB). Except the aperture I have no complaints about this lens
Jan 29, 2024 at 08:31 AM
p.14 #16Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
saaketham wrote:
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-300mm-gm-now-shipping-out-in-europe/
Yes, it's been in stock in western europe for a week now, and apparently not a huge list of pre-orders at all, as I could get one tomorrow.
I am still on the fence though, looking for a travel combo to complement the A1+600GM, I can see the 300GM with both TC's as a versatile option that is both small and very light. But a prospect of 90% TC use, with over 50% 2xTC, has me waiting for reviews.
A sidestep into Nikon is also a possibility, and I can only spend my money once...
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-300mm-gm-now-shipping-out-in-europe/
Yes, it's been in stock in western europe for a week now, and apparently not a huge list of pre-orders at all, as I could get one tomorrow.
I am still on the fence though, looking for a travel combo to complement the A1+600GM, I can see the 300GM with both TC's as a versatile option that is both small and very light. But a prospect of 90% TC use, with over 50% 2xTC, has me waiting for reviews.
A sidestep into Nikon is also a possibility, and I can only spend my money once...
Jan 31, 2024 at 05:42 AM
p.14 #17Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
ChrisMak wrote:
Yes, it's been in stock in western europe for a week now, and apparently not a huge list of pre-orders at all, as I could get one tomorrow.
I am still on the fence though, looking for a travel combo to complement the A1+600GM, I can see the 300GM with both TC's as a versatile option that is both small and very light. But a prospect of 90% TC use, with over 50% 2xTC, has me waiting for reviews.
A sidestep into Nikon is also a possibility, and I can only spend my money once...
I have the A1, but decided on the sidestep, so I now in 2 camera systems. Purchased a Nikon 400 f4.5, 1.4tc and a Z8 so I can have a lighter telephoto option to the A1 and the 200-600 combination. It’s too bad Sony has not created similar, relatively inexpensive, good quality telephotos to compete with Nikon such as the 400, 500, 600 lenses.
saaketham wrote
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-300mm-gm-now-shipping-out-in-europe/I am still on the fence though, looking for a travel combo to complement the A1+600GM, I can see the 300GM with both TC's as a versatile option that is both small and very light. But a prospect of 90% TC use, with over 50% 2xTC, has me waiting for reviews.
A sidestep into Nikon is also a possibility, and I can only spend my money once...
I have the A1, but decided on the sidestep, so I now in 2 camera systems. Purchased a Nikon 400 f4.5, 1.4tc and a Z8 so I can have a lighter telephoto option to the A1 and the 200-600 combination. It’s too bad Sony has not created similar, relatively inexpensive, good quality telephotos to compete with Nikon such as the 400, 500, 600 lenses.
Jan 31, 2024 at 07:09 AM
p.14 #18Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
Laslo Varadi wrote:
Yes, it's been in stock in western europe for a week now, and apparently not a huge list of pre-orders at all, as I could get one tomorrow.
I am still on the fence though, looking for a travel combo to complement the A1+600GM, I can see the 300GM with both TC's as a versatile option that is both small and very light. But a prospect of 90% TC use, with over 50% 2xTC, has me waiting for reviews.
A sidestep into Nikon is also a possibility, and I can only spend my money once...I have the A1, but decided on the sidestep, so I now in 2 camera systems. Purchased a Nikon 400 f4.5, 1.4tc and a Z8 so I can have a lighter telephoto option to the A1 and the 200-600 combination. It’s too bad Sony has not created similar, relatively inexpensive, good quality telephotos to compete with Nikon such as the 400, 500, 600 lenses.
The Nikon combo you have is an obvious candidate, and I see lots of good colors, bokeh and contrast coming from the Z400mm f4.5.
But I intend to wait for the Sony 300GM reviews.
The 300GM is a higher quality lens with slightly wider eq. aperture, and if the 2xTC works exceptionally well with it (which initial reviews hint at) then it will be a tough choice. Going for the Sony is around €800,- less expensive and has the advantage of staying within one system.
On the other hand, a Z8 would open the door to a future 600 or 800PF
ChrisMak wrote
saaketham wrote
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-300mm-gm-now-shipping-out-in-europe/I am still on the fence though, looking for a travel combo to complement the A1+600GM, I can see the 300GM with both TC's as a versatile option that is both small and very light. But a prospect of 90% TC use, with over 50% 2xTC, has me waiting for reviews.
A sidestep into Nikon is also a possibility, and I can only spend my money once...
The Nikon combo you have is an obvious candidate, and I see lots of good colors, bokeh and contrast coming from the Z400mm f4.5.
But I intend to wait for the Sony 300GM reviews.
The 300GM is a higher quality lens with slightly wider eq. aperture, and if the 2xTC works exceptionally well with it (which initial reviews hint at) then it will be a tough choice. Going for the Sony is around €800,- less expensive and has the advantage of staying within one system.
On the other hand, a Z8 would open the door to a future 600 or 800PF
Jan 31, 2024 at 07:25 AM
p.14 #19Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
And here we go ... US folks
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1843940
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1843933
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1843940
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1843933
Jan 31, 2024 at 08:31 AM
p.14 #20Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced
saaketham wrote:
And here we go ... US folks
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1843940
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1843933
The dealers already started receiving their A9 III shipments this week. If you personally know store owners in your area or online - it's not a problem to get this camera today.
And here we go ... US folks
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1843940
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1843933
The dealers already started receiving their A9 III shipments this week. If you personally know store owners in your area or online - it's not a problem to get this camera today.
Feb 01, 2024 at 10:33 AM