p.20 #1Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
OwlsEyes wrote: nmerc_photos wroteOwlsEyes wroteThe deer are in their breeding prime right now, so that's all I've got to share these days.
I bought the 180-600 for this type of photography where I can get fairly close to my subjects. I photograph a lot of deer throughout the winter as well as swans. I used to use the 200-400 f4 for a lot of this work, the 180-600 is definitely a step up in terms of optics and handling... I think that's really good news.
brucebeautiful buck Bruce!
is it wild or captive? you've posted a ton of "shooter" bucks that hunters all around the country would be jealous to see!
these images in here are really making me lean towards the 180-600 instead of the 100-400Hi and thanks for the note,
I never post captive animals, in fact I can't recall the last time I've been to a "wildlife sanctuary" where the wildlife is not free to roam beyond pre-defined boarders... Hmm maybe 'Ol Pejeta Conservancy" in Kenya (But it is 360 square km... so essentially free roaming).
I live in MN and we have a frightfully large deer population. Furthermore, the Mississippi National Wildlife Refuge is part of the NPS system and it is illegal to hunt there. This refuge runs into multiple state parks along the Mississippi and St. Croix River (another NPS controlled system). The parks allow for very tightly regulated hunts when the deer populations are exceeding park carrying capacity. As such, there a few parks where deer have semi-permanent residence or migrate into the Mississippi and St. Croix Valley Refuges only to return to breed in November. Unlike the bucks, many of the does and fawns will winter in the state parks and the bucks return for a captive audience
For example, I photographed this same buck around the same time last year. There is one buck who died two years ago that I photographed for at least 4 consecutive years.
I have plans to move to California during the first quarter of 2024, so I am trying to pad my files with big bucks... My decade-plus run of "trophy" white-tail deer photography is about to come to an end
RE the 180-600 v 100-400.. I think this depends more on your weight tolerance, existing kit, and size rather than optical quality. While the 400 f4.5 edges out the 180-600 @ 400mm, it's not enough to make me pull out that lens. I will only use my 400mm lens when I need the extra stop or I know I will be shooting handheld all of the time (like from a kayak, canoe, or other watercraft). If 600mm is your max lens (like 600PF or 600S) or you use a 400mm f2.8S, I think the 100-400 is the right "other" lens. For me, I use the 800PF for some birds and distant or small mammals (coyotes, deer landscapes, otters, etc...). The 180-600 is the perfect "other" lens and will likely be my most used wildlife lens. I also continue to hold onto my 400 f4.5 and 1.4x. So when I go on a nature shoot, I always carry my 17-28 f2.8, 70-180 f2.8, Z6II, Z8, and Z9. If decide to go long, I will pack the latter in my Backlight 36L with the 800mm and 400mm lenses; if I decide to be a generalist or am planning a flight, I'll pack the "smaller stuff" in my FStop Tilopa w/ Pro-XL ICU and stick the 400 and 180-600 in that bag (yes it all fits nicely).
I carried the Tilopa kit into the state park yesterday with the Z9 on the 180-600, Z8 on the 400, and the 2 smaller lens + Z6II separated... I was able to hike comfortably for 3 miles on a lot of uneven and trail-free brush habitat with this stuff, and probably would be just fine with this kit into the future... even if I didn't have the 800PF.
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awesome stuff! I love Minnesota. Would love to have a cabin or something up there one day.
I found a couple of local parks here in Michigan with decent bucks (couple 6s, 8s) but poaching is an issue and it's mainly in the city so I don't think they tend to get as big.
The Mississippi Wildlife Refuge sounds like a sweet setup!
Currently I've got a 70-200 2.8, 400 f2.8 tc, and 800 6.3. I pretty much only need a zoom for trips where wildlife photography is not the main attraction... I took the RF 100-500 with to Hawaii in March, and the Z 100-400 to Iceland in September of this year for example. In both cases I wanted more reach, and aperture wasn't an issue since I was shooting in daylight. I could use the 1.4x on the 100-400, but I much prefer an internal zoom mechanism. I'm thinking the 180-600 may give similar optical quality with further reach, assuming I can figure out how to accommodate it in a travel pack.
p.20 #2Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
nmerc_photos wrote: OwlsEyes wrotenmerc_photos wroteOwlsEyes wroteThe deer are in their breeding prime right now, so that's all I've got to share these days.
I bought the 180-600 for this type of photography where I can get fairly close to my subjects. I photograph a lot of deer throughout the winter as well as swans. I used to use the 200-400 f4 for a lot of this work, the 180-600 is definitely a step up in terms of optics and handling... I think that's really good news.
brucebeautiful buck Bruce!
is it wild or captive? you've posted a ton of "shooter" bucks that hunters all around the country would be jealous to see!
these images in here are really making me lean towards the 180-600 instead of the 100-400Hi and thanks for the note,
I never post captive animals, in fact I can't recall the last time I've been to a "wildlife sanctuary" where the wildlife is not free to roam beyond pre-defined boarders... Hmm maybe 'Ol Pejeta Conservancy" in Kenya (But it is 360 square km... so essentially free roaming).
I live in MN and we have a frightfully large deer population. Furthermore, the Mississippi National Wildlife Refuge is part of the NPS system and it is illegal to hunt there. This refuge runs into multiple state parks along the Mississippi and St. Croix River (another NPS controlled system). The parks allow for very tightly regulated hunts when the deer populations are exceeding park carrying capacity. As such, there a few parks where deer have semi-permanent residence or migrate into the Mississippi and St. Croix Valley Refuges only to return to breed in November. Unlike the bucks, many of the does and fawns will winter in the state parks and the bucks return for a captive audience
For example, I photographed this same buck around the same time last year. There is one buck who died two years ago that I photographed for at least 4 consecutive years.
I have plans to move to California during the first quarter of 2024, so I am trying to pad my files with big bucks... My decade-plus run of "trophy" white-tail deer photography is about to come to an end
RE the 180-600 v 100-400.. I think this depends more on your weight tolerance, existing kit, and size rather than optical quality. While the 400 f4.5 edges out the 180-600 @ 400mm, it's not enough to make me pull out that lens. I will only use my 400mm lens when I need the extra stop or I know I will be shooting handheld all of the time (like from a kayak, canoe, or other watercraft). If 600mm is your max lens (like 600PF or 600S) or you use a 400mm f2.8S, I think the 100-400 is the right "other" lens. For me, I use the 800PF for some birds and distant or small mammals (coyotes, deer landscapes, otters, etc...). The 180-600 is the perfect "other" lens and will likely be my most used wildlife lens. I also continue to hold onto my 400 f4.5 and 1.4x. So when I go on a nature shoot, I always carry my 17-28 f2.8, 70-180 f2.8, Z6II, Z8, and Z9. If decide to go long, I will pack the latter in my Backlight 36L with the 800mm and 400mm lenses; if I decide to be a generalist or am planning a flight, I'll pack the "smaller stuff" in my FStop Tilopa w/ Pro-XL ICU and stick the 400 and 180-600 in that bag (yes it all fits nicely).
I carried the Tilopa kit into the state park yesterday with the Z9 on the 180-600, Z8 on the 400, and the 2 smaller lens + Z6II separated... I was able to hike comfortably for 3 miles on a lot of uneven and trail-free brush habitat with this stuff, and probably would be just fine with this kit into the future... even if I didn't have the 800PF.
bruceawesome stuff! I love Minnesota. Would love to have a cabin or something up there one day.
I found a couple of local parks here in Michigan with decent bucks (couple 6s, 8s) but poaching is an issue and it's mainly in the city so I don't think they tend to get as big.
The Mississippi Wildlife Refuge sounds like a sweet setup!
Currently I've got a 70-200 2.8, 400 f2.8 tc, and 800 6.3. I pretty much only need a zoom for trips where photography is not the main attraction... I took the RF 100-500 with to Hawaii in March, and the Z 100-400 to Iceland in September of this year for example. In both cases I wanted more reach, and aperture wasn't an issue since I was shooting in daylight. I could use the 1.4x on the 100-400, but I much prefer an internal zoom mechanism. I'm thinking the 180-600 may give similar optical quality with further reach, assuming I can figure out how to accommodate it in a travel pack.
You have a great kit... totally envious of the 400 f2.8S! I wish I could convince myself to spend the money on that lens, but it is a little too expensive for my taste.
As for a pack... I don't know if you've looked at F-Stop gear, but the F-Stop Tilopa is not too big and not too small. I am pretty certain you could pack a Z8 or Z9 attached to the 180-600 w/ shade reversed, a second body and two smaller lens into the Large Pro ICU. This would leave extra space for a jacket, shirt, and pair of light pants. I love the F-Stop gear stuff and wish they had a travel-ready bag that could hold the 800PF and Z9 the way the ThinkTank Backlight 36 does.
While the F-Stop bags are expensive, I am still using the one that I bought in 2011 or 12. This bag has been all over the world and back again... It's worn, but still my favorite bag to carry into the field.
regards,
Bruce
p.20 #4Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
nmerc_photos wrote:
I'm thinking the 180-600 may give similar optical quality with further reach, assuming I can figure out how to accommodate it in a travel pack.
The 180-600 packs reasonably well. I just packed our bags for a FL trip tomorrow. This is what wifey & I will be carrying on to the flight - very similar to numerous other CONUS flights.
The 600PF belongs to the Mrs., and I am a bit jealous of that one! Lol!
p.20 #8Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
bs kite wrote:
Wow... hope there is no poaching there. And I'd keep it an absolute secret where this preserve is.
Bruce, you're gonna want to come back from California during falls aren't you , just for this?
I never give away my deer location, as I want these "trophy bucks" to sire the next generation of trophy bucks.
I've had a good run with white tail deer since 2014 or so... next year I'll be looking to fill my artiodactyla bucket with rutting elk... I've never had the opportunity to photograph big elk during their prime, but I know where to find them in CA
p.20 #9Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
OwlsEyes wrote: bs kite wroteWow... hope there is no poaching there. And I'd keep it an absolute secret where this preserve is.
Bruce, you're gonna want to come back from California during falls aren't you , just for this?
I never give away my deer location, as I want these "trophy bucks" to sire the next generation of trophy bucks.
I've had a good run with white tail deer since 2014 or so... next year I'll be looking to fill my artiodactyla bucket with rutting elk... I've never had the opportunity to photograph big elk during their prime, but I know where to find them in CA
p.20 #15Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
George DeCamp wrote: EyeSpyEagle wroteAt risk of spamming the thread (with images), I'm going to add a few more this AM.
Still in FL. This are from Green Cay.
All three @ 600mm, wide open. The 1st one was shot in DX mode and was not cropped any further.
Regards,
PhilThese and the ones above are all really well done! I really like this lens!!
Thanks George.
I am with you on that. I've been quite pleasantly surprised by the 180-600. Simply having the flexibility to pull back (zoom out) has been delightful. For many years I've been shooting almost exclusively primes for wildlife, and using zooms mainly for sports-type shooting. This one is nice when I'm just out having some fun. :-)
BTW, there was no software based trickery with the BG's in any of those shots. If we manage distances when shooting, this lens will render a pleasant background quite easily.
p.20 #16Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
EyeSpyEagle wrote: George DeCamp wroteEyeSpyEagle wroteAt risk of spamming the thread (with images), I'm going to add a few more this AM.
Still in FL. This are from Green Cay.
All three @ 600mm, wide open. The 1st one was shot in DX mode and was not cropped any further.
Regards,
PhilThese and the ones above are all really well done! I really like this lens!!Thanks George.
I am with you on that. I've been quite pleasantly surprised by the 180-600. Simply having the flexibility to pull back (zoom out) has been delightful. For many years I've been shooting almost exclusively primes for wildlife, and using zooms mainly for sports-type shooting. This one is nice when I'm just out having some fun. :-)
BTW, there was no software based trickery with the BG's in any of those shots. If we manage distances when shooting, this lens will render a pleasant background quite easily.
Regards,
Phil
Phil, I agree the rendering on this lens is awesome, the backgrounds can be just as good as anything if planned just a little.
p.20 #17Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
Ordered mine today. B&H has 1200 on backorder with only a trickle coming in. Said it would likely be end of 1st quarter before I'd see one if not April. Oh well.......patience......
p.20 #18Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
In case anyone is looking for the smallest possible bag that holds just a Z8 + 180-600 (hood reversed) and just enough room for a few small accessories (batteries, maybe a TC tucked in beside the lens, not much else) the Tenba Solstice 12L is perfect:
p.20 #19Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
I will be using a Kinesis large Holster style bag when my 180-600 shows up along with it on my Z9. A perfect fit for both convenience to access for quick shooting in addition to protection when running around. I'm into holster bags, not regular style bags.
p.20 #20Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread
dcisive wrote:
Ordered mine today. B&H has 1200 on backorder with only a trickle coming in. Said it would likely be end of 1st quarter before I'd see one if not April. Oh well.......patience......
I'll see what my NPS got me, I hope to have it by World Cup for my ski area client.